The Big Tech March to Silence Free Speech

#826
#826
Ron Paul was silenced on Facebook for supposedly terrorism they think it may be because he was critical of Twitter for banning people. But Ron is just a old Liberty Report 3rd party guy.
 
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#827
C-south said:
So what do you do if every utility company refuses to serve you just because?
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How is possible that you can consistently find the worst imaginable analogy with such ease? It's impressive that you can float the most unimaginative non sequiturs with a straight face, like a super power for people who aren't wanting to be taken seriously.

Seriously, is it your contention that twitter is a public utility? Or that the twitter I depend on to heat my house in the winter would refuse to serve me "just because?"

Is that what's happened here? Twitter banned Trump "just because?"
 
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#828
Septic said:
The type or size of the business is irrelevant.

Either you support deregulation of business or you don't. Apparently, like fiscal conservatism - you folks only like to talk about it. But a real laissez-faire economic system, you don't really want that.

It's funny, because it would appear that I'm the only real pro business fee market conservative up in this b*tch.
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Deregulation and anti-trust laws aren't exactly the same thing.
 
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Septic said:
How is possible that you can consistently find the worst imaginable analogy with such ease? It's impressive that you can float the most unimaginative non sequiturs with a straight face, like a super power for people who aren't wanting to be taken seriously.

Seriously, is it your contention that twitter is a public utility? Or that the twitter I depend on to heat my house in the winter would refuse to serve me "just because?"

Is that what's happened here? Twitter banned Trump "just because?"
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So you just deflect as usual. This isn’t just about a mom and pop bakery or just Twitter.
 
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NEO said:
Deregulation and anti-trust laws aren't exactly the same thing.
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Anti-trust and censorship isn't the same thing either. These are separate companies removing users who violate their ToS. It's convenient to lump them all together and be mad at "big tech", but dive into each platforms rationale and it's pretty easy to wrap your head around why they each did what they did.

"big tech" is just another faceless boogeyman to be mad at and blame because they are no longer scared of Donny's crazy.
 
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Septic said:
Anti-trust and censorship isn't the same thing either. These are separate companies removing users who violate their ToS. It's convenient to lump them all together and be mad at "big tech", but dive into each platforms rationale and it's pretty easy to wrap your head around why they each did what they did.

"big tech" is just another faceless boogeyman to be mad at and blame because they are no longer scared of Donny's crazy.
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Except they’re not simply removing users who violate their TOS.
 
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C-south said:
So you just deflect as usual. This isn’t just about a mom and pop bakery or just Twitter.
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I've already explained that it's not about the bakery or twitter at all, please try to keep up.

It's about either supporting the principle of free market business and their ability to choose who and what to do business with or not. You can't have it both ways. Get it?

If you don't like twitter, don't do business with them.
 
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Septic said:
Anti-trust and censorship isn't the same thing either. These are separate companies removing users who violate their ToS. It's convenient to lump them all together and be mad at "big tech", but dive into each platforms rationale and it's pretty easy to wrap your head around why they each did what they did.

"big tech" is just another faceless boogeyman to be mad at and blame because they are no longer scared of Donny's crazy.
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The issue is that 3 companies is all it took to shut one other company down.

That is scary no matter what your politics are.

Alphabet and facebook have been able to gobble up so many services that there are becoming very few outside options.

For cellphones it is 2 operating systems, android or apple.

Again android is alphabet.

So when alphabet removed parler from the google play store and apple followed it effectively closed parker.

That is damn scary.

What is stopping any competitor to bankrupt another based upon their own agenda?
 
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Septic said:
I've already explained that it's not about the bakery or twitter at all, please try to keep up.

It's about either supporting the principle of free market business and their ability to choose who and what to do business with or not. You can't have it both ways. Get it?

If you don't like twitter, don't do business with them.
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Let's say I want to do business with parler right now and use their ap.

I am a customer and they are a legal entity in the us.

How do I currently become their customer?
 
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#840
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utvols88 said:
Maybe someone else has a better idea on the fix. I'd rather push for a fix and have that possibility known to the tech companies than to accept it and they push it more until we reach a point of no return.
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Even if somebody has a great idea, there is almost no chance that is the idea that's the political winner.
 
#841
#841
Septic said:
I've already explained that it's not about the bakery or twitter at all, please try to keep up.

It's about either supporting the principle of free market business and their ability to choose who and what to do business with or not. You can't have it both ways. Get it?

If you don't like twitter, don't do business with them.
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Free market business includes facilitating an environment to encourage it.
 
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#842
Ashevolle said:
Specifically, what did he say about Martin and Brown that you take exception with?

And how does commuting the sentence of Black Panthers stir the pot? Which particular crimes do you take exception with his having commuted?
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Seems like if Trump didn't denounce the KKK or whoever daily - or more frequently, he was guilty of aiding and abetting.
 
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VolStrom said:
Septic, you're having to work for a living today aren't you?
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It's easy when all you're advocating for is the ability for a business right to choose.

Not so much for those who want it both ways.

If folks want to keep bringing up a turd of an argument, I'll keep pointing out that it stinks.
 
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NEO said:
The issue is that 3 companies is all it took to shut one other company down.

That is scary no matter what your politics are.

Alphabet and facebook have been able to gobble up so many services that there are becoming very few outside options.

For cellphones it is 2 operating systems, android or apple.

Again android is alphabet.

So when alphabet removed parler from the google play store and apple followed it effectively closed parker.

That is damn scary.

What is stopping any competitor to bankrupt another based upon their own agenda?
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When your business is dependent on other businesses, it's the risk you take - especially when you are the match maker for violence and insurrection parties.

Can we please stop acting like the users on Parler were having Bible reading parties and weren't promoting and advocating insurrection and violence?
 
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Septic said:
When your business is dependent on other businesses, it's the risk you take - especially when you are the match maker for violence and insurrection parties.

Can we please stop acting like the users on Parler were having Bible reading parties and weren't promoting and advocating insurrection and violence?
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You mean the same s**t people (leftists/radicals) have been allowed to do on Facebook and Twitter for years?
 
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Septic said:
It's easy when all you're advocating for is the ability for a business right to choose.

Not so much for those who want it both ways.

If folks want to keep bringing up a turd of an argument, I'll keep pointing out that it stinks.
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So if you were living in the 1800's and wanted to travel to San Francisco via train from NY, you'd be okay if the conductor said they don't allow Irish on their trains and you have to take the stage coach?
 
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