The Best Football HC We're Hired in 30 Years ...

#51
#51
Bro when the entire fan base at his last job is haply he is gone, that is not a good sign... consistently got worse with a fully loaded talented team. What makes you think he is is going to be able to recruit here and build success when he couldn't sustain it at his last place? What a bunt of a hire.
 
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Steve_Smith89 said:
Kiffin has been garbage every single season as a head coach besides baby league
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I absolutely do not understand all the Kiffin love. He burned us once, has been average everywhere else (besides a year or two at FAU). Is he still getting love because of his time as OC at Bama? Every Bama OC has been successful while at Bama. Kiffin is as average as it gets. 5-5 last year. I personally would rather have Heupel. Everyone loves Kiffin because of his name and success at Bama.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
What part of "NCAA sanctions" do you not understand?? As a program that's about to get hit with NCAA sanctions, we CANNOT hire a coach who was fired from his previous job because of NCAA sanctions! Why are some of you choosing to guard your ignorance on this matter?? Freeze is not an option!
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Yes, whoever we choose is likely to die on that hill, too. The coach who steps into the mess usually isn’t the one who survives it (see Kiffin at USC, Luke at Ole Miss, and many others).

The disappointing news: UT is likely 2-3 years away from being mediocre. Thanks Phil and Jeremy.
 
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Can CJH develop a QB? This is what we need.. Appoint a good DC.. If Saban was announced today we wouldn't be competitive next year and what we are left with. If CJH can develop a QB and we have a solid DC.. It's a good start. JMO
 
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DiderotsGhost said:
... and people are complaining.

Seriously. I'm not saying I know how Heupel will automatically work out but this is easily our best hire on paper since Majors. Other hires:

Fulmer. Unproven OC.
Kiffin. Failed NFL coach.
Dooley. Failed G5 coach.
Butch Jones. Semi-successful G5 coach.
Pruitt. Unproven DC.

Heupel's probably the most accomplished of the entire bunch. He's had some of the best offenses in all of college football for the past 3 years and had a great track record as OC and QB coach before that. If he gets Jeff Lebby as OC (which isn't a sure thing), we'll probably have the best offensive staff in the nation. If we keep Kevin Steele as DC, we'll be in great shape with the staff.

No, things won't be turned around in Year 1 or even Year 2, with all the crap disadvantages the new staff will have to start with (transfer portal, potential penalties), but this is a reasonably good hire and a "great hire" by "Tenesseee over the past 2 decades" standards. One thing I do like is that Heupel is likely committed for the long-term; he didn't come here with the current situation to just be here for 2-3 years.

Feel like Battered Vol Syndrome is taking over for some on here. No, it's not a "Home Run Hire", but it's a solid double and maybe we get lucky in 3-5 years and he'll round home plate. At a bare minimum, this is a big upgrade at HC.
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The unfortunate reality is that the inevitable struggle in the first three years is going to have Vol fans again clamoring for CJH to be fired.
 
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DiderotsGhost said:
... and people are complaining.

Seriously. I'm not saying I know how Heupel will automatically work out but this is easily our best hire on paper since Majors. Other hires:

Fulmer. Unproven OC.
Kiffin. Failed NFL coach.
Dooley. Failed G5 coach.
Butch Jones. Semi-successful G5 coach.
Pruitt. Unproven DC.

Heupel's probably the most accomplished of the entire bunch. He's had some of the best offenses in all of college football for the past 3 years and had a great track record as OC and QB coach before that. If he gets Jeff Lebby as OC (which isn't a sure thing), we'll probably have the best offensive staff in the nation. If we keep Kevin Steele as DC, we'll be in great shape with the staff.

No, things won't be turned around in Year 1 or even Year 2, with all the crap disadvantages the new staff will have to start with (transfer portal, potential penalties), but this is a reasonably good hire and a "great hire" by "Tenesseee over the past 2 decades" standards. One thing I do like is that Heupel is likely committed for the long-term; he didn't come here with the current situation to just be here for 2-3 years.

Feel like Battered Vol Syndrome is taking over for some on here. No, it's not a "Home Run Hire", but it's a solid double and maybe we get lucky in 3-5 years and he'll round home plate. At a bare minimum, this is a big upgrade at HC.
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DiderotsGhost said:
...If he gets Jeff Lebby as OC (which isn't a sure thing), we'll probably have the best offensive staff in the nation.
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I’m all for positivity and optimism, but this is a bit too optimistic. The best offensive staffs in football over the last couple years have NOT been at UCF. There’s a long list to run through before you get to them. And yes, I know they have gaudy stats, but so does Kent State, North Texas, Arkansas State and Toledo. The best offensive staffs reside at Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, Florida, Ole Miss, Oklahoma, Texas (now) and many others before you get to UCF.

It’s a solid offensive staff, I agree with that, but it’s nowhere close to “best staff in the nation.” That’s an over-sell.
 
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Yep, we got some people that are wound too tight. So far, the AD has done everything he needed to do to move ahead and put UT in the right direction. Sure, it isn't Freeze but lets see what he can do with UTs resources and THEN pass judgement. OR kick n scream before we know the outcome; it's a free country and this is a fan forum 😁
 
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USMC-TNVOL said:
A downward trajectory and we’re supposed to be happy with it? Should’ve been Freeze.
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That's insanity. It DEFINITELY should not have been Freeze. His NCAA track record and UT's current situation would not have been a good combination.
 
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Well, I have to admit this is a guy with an offense perspective. If Steele becomes DC they ought to at least be competitive. Mediocrity at this point being a big step up from next-to-last.
 
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I can’t wait to see what JH can do with the offensive players we have in place now ! Bailey, Hyatt, etc. should put up crazy numbers! Although w do worry that our defense will be a problem because of the amount of players going int the transfer portal.
 
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VolFan32 said:
Honest question, if he finishes this past season at 7-3 rather than 6-4, does the perception change at all? The guy had an offense that led the SEC in his last year at Missouri; MISSOURI! Imagine what he can do here. Give it time.
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Pinkel had great offenses at Mizzou. Heck, even Dooley did ok there.
 
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DiderotsGhost said:
... and people are complaining.

Seriously. I'm not saying I know how Heupel will automatically work out but this is easily our best hire on paper since Majors. Other hires:

Fulmer. Unproven OC.
Kiffin. Failed NFL coach.
Dooley. Failed G5 coach.
Butch Jones. Semi-successful G5 coach.
Pruitt. Unproven DC.

Heupel's probably the most accomplished of the entire bunch. He's had some of the best offenses in all of college football for the past 3 years and had a great track record as OC and QB coach before that. If he gets Jeff Lebby as OC (which isn't a sure thing), we'll probably have the best offensive staff in the nation. If we keep Kevin Steele as DC, we'll be in great shape with the staff.

No, things won't be turned around in Year 1 or even Year 2, with all the crap disadvantages the new staff will have to start with (transfer portal, potential penalties), but this is a reasonably good hire and a "great hire" by "Tenesseee over the past 2 decades" standards. One thing I do like is that Heupel is likely committed for the long-term; he didn't come here with the current situation to just be here for 2-3 years.

Feel like Battered Vol Syndrome is taking over for some on here. No, it's not a "Home Run Hire", but it's a solid double and maybe we get lucky in 3-5 years and he'll round home plate. At a bare minimum, this is a big upgrade at HC.
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Butch and dooley didn’t come from P5 schools. Power five schools are SEC, Big 10, Big 12, PAC 10, and ACC
 
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What are you talking about the best hire we’ve had in the last 30 years? Kiffin was a much better hire. This guy is just another Butch Jones, who rode another’s coattails to look like he’s done a good job! I understand he can’t go undefeated every year after but my goodness he went 6-4 in a weak conference. Look at his recruiting too! It’s been horrible! There is a reason no one at UCF is sad about this (according to their site). Bob Stoops fired him after 4 years and he was a hometown boy. Heck I’d much rather had Chadwell or even Leopold at Buffalo.
 
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DiderotsGhost said:
... and people are complaining.

Seriously. I'm not saying I know how Heupel will automatically work out but this is easily our best hire on paper since Majors. Other hires:

Fulmer. Unproven OC.
Kiffin. Failed NFL coach.
Dooley. Failed G5 coach.
Butch Jones. Semi-successful G5 coach.
Pruitt. Unproven DC.

Heupel's probably the most accomplished of the entire bunch. He's had some of the best offenses in all of college football for the past 3 years and had a great track record as OC and QB coach before that. If he gets Jeff Lebby as OC (which isn't a sure thing), we'll probably have the best offensive staff in the nation. If we keep Kevin Steele as DC, we'll be in great shape with the staff.

No, things won't be turned around in Year 1 or even Year 2, with all the crap disadvantages the new staff will have to start with (transfer portal, potential penalties), but this is a reasonably good hire and a "great hire" by "Tenesseee over the past 2 decades" standards. One thing I do like is that Heupel is likely committed for the long-term; he didn't come here with the current situation to just be here for 2-3 years.

Feel like Battered Vol Syndrome is taking over for some on here. No, it's not a "Home Run Hire", but it's a solid double and maybe we get lucky in 3-5 years and he'll round home plate. At a bare minimum, this is a big upgrade at HC.
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Agreed!
 
#75
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K-town Vol Fan said:
His offenses at OU were ranked very highly, as well as Missouri.
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Guess you’re right , I wonder why Oklahoma fired him , he was so good with those five stars and mr drew lock can help your numbers some , when he has had his own gig he has declined fact . Look bro I hope I’m wrong I really do
 
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