That's racist!

Why is a grown man slapping anyone? Dude got a bit more than he deserved but he still had what was coming to him.
As someone here on the ground in Cincinnati, I feel like I ought to update the board on the facts in this case, uncovered by the investigation by law enforcement. The first punch was thrown by the black guy. The racial slurs didn't start until the white guy was being beaten for one minute 47 seconds

"Several defense counsels said that racial epithets were thrown at these people. That was a minute and 47 seconds into this brutal beatdown. Were the words said? Yes. Were they inappropriate? Absolutely. But these poor people were being assaulted, stomped, WWE style elbow drops onto pavement," said Guinan. "One woman was knocked out to the point that her head hit the pavement. We could be here on a homicide. For counsel to say that he has the only response for misdemeanor assault is beyond the pale. And against all the facts, she has not seen all the videos. Nobody has except myself and the officers involved here."


The white guy's "slap" came after the beatings already started:

Chief Assistant Hamilton County Prosecutor Kip Guinan also insisted the man seen on viral videos slapping one of the suspects just before the brutal beatdowns began did that after someone was already beaten.


The "dude" did not have this coming. This attack was a territorial dispute where a group of blacks premeditated an attack on whites. That's what the investigation has showed

Guinan said Jermaine Matthews was the "main instigator" of the incident, which he called a "brutal beatdown." He said Matthews and others harassed the victims, following them on the street and telling them, "You are at the wrong party."
 
I haven't watched it all, but it's been reported he was using racial slurs while doing it. He was obviously drunk and belligerent do it's certainly believable. If all that is true he's at least responsible for inciting the riot.

The ones that beat him are responsible for their actions too.
I read the racial slurs came after the beat down started
 
No lie… you don’t put your hands on someone at all unless you’re ready to take it all the way
What's "all the way"? Once he's motionless on the ground he doesn't deserve to have his head kicked and stomped on. That could kill some people. That's not how we operate in modern society. The guy doing the most violent beating in this video is a violent convicted felon. He's a danger to society and is one of those guys who ought not be free. He needs to be locked up and taken off the streets

 
What's "all the way"? Once he's motionless on the ground he doesn't deserve to have his head kicked and stomped on. That could kill some people. That's not how we operate in modern society. The guy doing the most violent beating in this video is a violent convicted felon. He's a danger to society and is one of those guys who ought not be free. He needs to be locked up and taken off the streets

“All the way”….. engage in fisticuffs
 
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Why is the holocaust relevant to us as Americans? Its something that happened in Europe by Europeans against other Europeans. I don't see the Rwandan genocide getting museums here in America so why should the holocaust?

What matters is are Nick Fuentes views beneficial to us as Americans. If they are then he's a swell guy regardless of what he thinks about an event that occurred in another country.
Are you black? If so, he sees you the same as he sees primates…..and Farrakhan is just race baiting scum too
 
Are you black? If so, he sees you the same as he sees primates…..and Farrakhan is just race baiting scum too

Yes I'm black. And hate to break it to you but that's how most non-black people see us. I actually appreciate those who are honest over those who say one thing in public and another in private. And Farakhan is the best black leader since Malcolm X. "Race baiting" isn't a real thing by the way. Racism exists. So acknowledging it doesn't mean you're baiting anybody. Its simply about stating facts.
 

Miriam Krinsky left Fair and Just Prosecution months after staffers said she 'oppressed, slighted, and discriminated against' them​

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Progressive activist Miriam Krinsky was at the top of her game in early 2024. As the founder and leader of Soros-backed Fair and Just Prosecution (FJP), she helped support the day-to-day work of the nationwide wave of progressive prosecutors elected in the late 2010s and early 2020s. Then it all came to a screeching halt when her own staff accused her of being a racist, according to emails obtained by the Washington Free Beacon.

FJP, funded by billionaire financier George Soros’s Open Society Foundations, played a key role in supporting elected progressive prosecutors under Krinsky’s leadership from 2017 through 2024. The group paid for fellows to staff their offices, footed the bill for prosecutors to travel overseas to Europe to learn about "drug decriminalization," and created training models to help the prosecutors "address systemic injustices" in the criminal justice system.

 
Yes I'm black. And hate to break it to you but that's how most non-black people see us. I actually appreciate those who are honest over those who say one thing in public and another in private. And Farakhan is the best black leader since Malcolm X. "Race baiting" isn't a real thing by the way. Racism exists. So acknowledging it doesn't mean you're baiting anybody. It’s simply about stating facts.
Do you think the majority of white people are nice to black people in public, but then go home and talk watermelon and fried chicken?
I hate to break it to you, but most don’t even think or talk about black folks at all.
 
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Do you think the majority of white people are nice to black people in public, but then go home and talk watermelon and fried chicken?
I hate to break it to you, but most don’t even think or talk about black folks at all.

Its not about overt racism like that. Most polite white people even during Jim Crow didn't say the N word. However, if you asked them if black people were intellectually inferior to white people they would have said yes. And I believe the same is true today.

As I said earlier, I've gotten into long debates on this site about the race of the Ancient Egyptians. I've provided tons of photographic and historical evidence showing they were clearly of black African descent. And yet most are unwilling to accept it. Why? My belief is its rooted in ideas of racial supremacy. Most non-black people are unwilling to accept that the greatest civilization in antiquity was created by black people because they believe black people are intellectually inferior and thus incapable of such accomplishments regardless of how much historical evidence there is against such a notion.

I've accepted the stranglehold racism has on people. Hence why I no longer care about it. I simply worry about myself and not what people think of me. Its why Nick Fuentes racism doesn't bother. I accept it comes with the territory of growing up in our modern world.
 
Its not about overt racism like that. Most polite white people even during Jim Crow didn't say the N word. However, if you asked them if black people were intellectually inferior to white people they would have said yes. And I believe the same is true today.

As I said earlier, I've gotten into long debates on this site about the race of the Ancient Egyptians. I've provided tons of photographic and historical evidence showing they were clearly of black African descent. And yet most are unwilling to accept it. Why? My belief is its rooted in ideas of racial supremacy. Most non-black people are unwilling to accept that the greatest civilization in antiquity was created by black people because they believe black people are intellectually inferior and thus incapable of such accomplishments regardless of how much historical evidence there is against such a notion.

I've accepted the stranglehold racism has on people. Hence why I no longer care about it. I simply worry about myself and not what people think of me. Its why Nick Fuentes racism doesn't bother. I accept it comes with the territory of growing up in our modern world.
Question..
Do you believe the believe the rascim that black experience has anything to do with their behavior and lack of societal development from African to be based society??
 
Question..
Do you believe the believe the rascim that black experience has anything to do with their behavior and lack of societal development from African to be based society??

I mean black Americans were treated brutally during slavery. Stripped of their names, history, and culture. Indoctrinated into thinking they were lesser. Then during Jim Crow they were relegated to second class citizens in an apartheid state. Given all that's happened to them don't you think they deserve a little slack for not being as "developed" socially as groups that never had to deal with such mistreatment?

I'm not excusing the antisocial behavior exhibited by some black people that has created the negative stereotypes most people have of our community. I'm just saying there are reasons for it outside of black people being less intelligent or moral as white people. With that said, I'm from the Nation of Islam school of thought where I'm not looking for white folks sympathy nor help. I believe we should pick ourselves up. So don't confuse me explaining to you why black folks are the way they are with me excusing and saying its okay. Its not okay and we got to do better.

But our present condition is a result of history and not the result of some inherent inadequacy as Nick Fuentes and other white supremacist believe.
 
I mean black Americans were treated brutally during slavery. Stripped of their names, history, and culture. Indoctrinated into thinking they were lesser. Then during Jim Crow they were relegated to second class citizens in an apartheid state. Given all that's happened to them don't you think they deserve a little slack for not being as "developed" socially as groups that never had to deal with such mistreatment?

I'm not excusing the antisocial behavior exhibited by some black people that has created the negative stereotypes most people have of our community. I'm just saying there are reasons for it outside of black people being less intelligent or moral as white people. With that said, I'm from the Nation of Islam school of thought where I'm not looking for white folks sympathy nor help. I believe we should pick ourselves up. So don't confuse me explaining to you why black folks are the way they are with me excusing and saying its okay. Its not okay and we got to do better.

But our present condition is a result of history and not the result of some inherent inadequacy as Nick Fuentes and other white supremacist believe.
I don't believe its an intellectual issue. Its cultural. I ask because blacks from European countries that were slaves don't carry the same issues as back Americans. In fact until the recent push my media world wide..the American black population wasn't liked by blacks from other countries (example include majority black countries refusing to rent bnbs etc to American blacks).. Also why do black immigrants fair better societal wise then American blacks??? I notice black from other counties don't support or prioritize the faster rap culture like the US?? So how does that get fixed?
 
I don't believe its an intellectual issue. Its cultural. I ask because blacks from European countries that were slaves don't carry the same issues as back Americans. In fact until the recent push my media world wide..the American black population wasn't liked by blacks from other countries (example include majority black countries refusing to rent bnbs etc to American blacks).. Also why do black immigrants fair better societal wise then American blacks??? I notice black from other counties don't support or prioritize the faster rap culture like the US?? So how does that get fixed?

But why is black American culture the way it is? You don't think slavery and Jim Crow had an effect on that? I agree with you foreign blacks do way better (especially those from Nigeria). A major reason for that is those people have a history and culture devoid of enslavement and being taught they are less then. Africans haven't had it drilled into their heads for centuries they are inferior to white people. Black Americans have. And that still has an effect on us.

Why do you think I have such a strong interest in African history? It was the thing that freed me from thinking I was less than compared to white people. I clearly remember as kid being embarrassed during Black History Month when the topic of slavery came about. I remember thinking all my white classmates are probably staring at me thinking I'm lesser than them. This sort of stuff messes with you if that's all you know. It wasn't until I started learning our full history that I realized slavery was just a blip. I learned about all the great empires and civilizations in Africa and this gave me the confidence to believe I could succeed in anything I wanted.

Most black Americans never get to that point where they actually believe they can be anything they want. They unfortunately buy into the ideas of white supremacy and think they can't do anything other than what stereotypes say they can do. Black foreigners don't suffer from the same impediment which is why they are more successful.
 
But why is black American culture the way it is? You don't think slavery and Jim Crow had an effect on that? I agree with you foreign blacks do way better (especially those from Nigeria). A major reason for that is those people have a history and culture devoid of enslavement and being taught they are less then. Africans haven't had it drilled into their heads for centuries they are inferior to white people. Black Americans have. And that still has an effect on us.

Why do you think I have such a strong interest in African history? It was the thing that freed me from thinking I was less than compared to white people. I clearly remember as kid being embarrassed during Black History Month when the topic of slavery came about. I remember thinking all my white classmates are probably staring at me thinking I'm lesser than them. This sort of stuff messes with you if that's all you know. It wasn't until I started learning our full history that I realized slavery was just a blip. I learned about all the great empires and civilizations in Africa and this gave me the confidence to believe I could succeed in anything I wanted.

Most black Americans never get to that point where they actually believe they can be anything they want. They unfortunately buy into the ideas of white supremacy and think they can't do anything other than what stereotypes say they can do. Black foreigners don't suffer from the same impediment which is why they are more successful.
I may add more later. But to start Nigerians were deep in slavery both locally and trans Atlantic. They enslaved their own people..as did and still do many African countries ..slavery was an accepted world wide SOP...but only current black American who experienced the shorted period of slavery are traumatized by something that hasn't happened to them? Nigeria still used forced labor and human trafficking...
 
I may add more later. But to start Nigerians were deep in slavery both locally and trans Atlantic. They enslaved their own people..as did and still do many African countries ..slavery was an accepted world wide SOP...but only current black American who experienced the shorted period of slavery are traumatized by something that hasn't happened to them? Nigeria still used forced labor and human trafficking...

There's a difference between being the slaver versus the enslaved. I'm talking about the perspective of not only being enslaved as was the case for black Americans but also being told you are inferior because of it. So while everyone on planet earth was enslaved at some point only American chattel slavery tied skin color and notions of racial supremacy and inferiority to the enslavement.

Black Americans were told they were inferior to whites because of their race. No other group has had that done to them for 400+ years.
 
whats your hang-up about things only happening in america?

Cause I'm an American. I care first and foremost about what's happening here to my people. Let's get our house in order first before we try to save others. Last I checked every major American city has homeless people in the streets. Let's first have no more homeless Americans before we worry about Museums dedicated to events that happened in other countries.
 
There's a difference between being the slaver versus the enslaved. I'm talking about the perspective of not only being enslaved as was the case for black Americans but also being told you are inferior because of it. So while everyone on planet earth was enslaved at some point only American chattel slavery tied skin color and notions of racial supremacy and inferiority to the enslavement.

Black Americans were told they were inferior to whites because of their race. No other group has had that done to them for 400+ years.
I think blaming the "inferiority" cast upon them as the reason for modern issues falls a bit flat for a couple reasons.

shortly after slavery crime rates weren't as twisted as they are now. depending on if you buy it or not more blacks are in jail now than they ever were. no way to say that "accepted inferiority" just now kicked in. and shortly after you had all the BS jim crow laws which would have skewed things even worse back then.

related to that, family structure was better, handouts were less, and you had a concentrated entrepreneurial "renaissance" amongst the recently freed and the first couple generations. if they had been convinced of their inferiority, those positives would have been impossible back then, and you would see things get better over time.

I think evidence shows the issue is more closely tied to use of that claimed inferiority as a crutch has done more harm. one thing you and the State of Islam need to learn, is that one of the key items to helping yourself is to stop blaming others, and waiting on others to change for your benefit. You aren't responsible for what happened to you, but you are responsible for how you respond to it.
 
There's a difference between being the slaver versus the enslaved. I'm talking about the perspective of not only being enslaved as was the case for black Americans but also being told you are inferior because of it. So while everyone on planet earth was enslaved at some point only American chattel slavery tied skin color and notions of racial supremacy and inferiority to the enslavement.

Black Americans were told they were inferior to whites because of their race. No other group has had that done to them for 400+ years.
Here the thing..chattel slavery is just a term made to make us feel bad . I promise you those enslaved in Africa at this moment feel less and are made to feel less then their slavers...as would any person who loses their freedom and is enslaved. That's how you keep enslaved people enslaved. It control. And it could have been totally race based in the US as those were major black slaves owners..so chattel slavery is a term made up by race baiters
 
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