GroverCleveland
22nd & 24th POTUS; Predecessor to 45 and 47.
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This has nothing to do with what MLK "taught" lol, it's just tokenizing someone in his familyEL (ambulance chaser) will be appalled to know Dr. King taught his family right. Doesn’t fit the mold of her victims.
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As someone here on the ground in Cincinnati, I feel like I ought to update the board on the facts in this case, uncovered by the investigation by law enforcement. The first punch was thrown by the black guy. The racial slurs didn't start until the white guy was being beaten for one minute 47 secondsWhy is a grown man slapping anyone? Dude got a bit more than he deserved but he still had what was coming to him.
"Several defense counsels said that racial epithets were thrown at these people. That was a minute and 47 seconds into this brutal beatdown. Were the words said? Yes. Were they inappropriate? Absolutely. But these poor people were being assaulted, stomped, WWE style elbow drops onto pavement," said Guinan. "One woman was knocked out to the point that her head hit the pavement. We could be here on a homicide. For counsel to say that he has the only response for misdemeanor assault is beyond the pale. And against all the facts, she has not seen all the videos. Nobody has except myself and the officers involved here."
Chief Assistant Hamilton County Prosecutor Kip Guinan also insisted the man seen on viral videos slapping one of the suspects just before the brutal beatdowns began did that after someone was already beaten.
Guinan said Jermaine Matthews was the "main instigator" of the incident, which he called a "brutal beatdown." He said Matthews and others harassed the victims, following them on the street and telling them, "You are at the wrong party."
I read the racial slurs came after the beat down startedI haven't watched it all, but it's been reported he was using racial slurs while doing it. He was obviously drunk and belligerent do it's certainly believable. If all that is true he's at least responsible for inciting the riot.
The ones that beat him are responsible for their actions too.
What's "all the way"? Once he's motionless on the ground he doesn't deserve to have his head kicked and stomped on. That could kill some people. That's not how we operate in modern society. The guy doing the most violent beating in this video is a violent convicted felon. He's a danger to society and is one of those guys who ought not be free. He needs to be locked up and taken off the streetsNo lie… you don’t put your hands on someone at all unless you’re ready to take it all the way
“All the way”….. engage in fisticuffsWhat's "all the way"? Once he's motionless on the ground he doesn't deserve to have his head kicked and stomped on. That could kill some people. That's not how we operate in modern society. The guy doing the most violent beating in this video is a violent convicted felon. He's a danger to society and is one of those guys who ought not be free. He needs to be locked up and taken off the streets
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Suspect charged in downtown Cincinnati brawl also facing federal gun charge
One of the suspects charged in connection to a downtown Cincinnati brawl that went viral across the country is now facing a federal gun charge.www.wlwt.com
I think blaming the "inferiority" cast upon them as the reason for modern issues falls a bit flat for a couple reasons.There's a difference between being the slaver versus the enslaved. I'm talking about the perspective of not only being enslaved as was the case for black Americans but also being told you are inferior because of it. So while everyone on planet earth was enslaved at some point only American chattel slavery tied skin color and notions of racial supremacy and inferiority to the enslavement.
Black Americans were told they were inferior to whites because of their race. No other group has had that done to them for 400+ years.
Here the thing..chattel slavery is just a term made to make us feel bad . I promise you those enslaved in Africa at this moment feel less and are made to feel less then their slavers...as would any person who loses their freedom and is enslaved. That's how you keep enslaved people enslaved. It control. And it could have been totally race based in the US as those were major black slaves owners..so chattel slavery is a term made up by race baitersThere's a difference between being the slaver versus the enslaved. I'm talking about the perspective of not only being enslaved as was the case for black Americans but also being told you are inferior because of it. So while everyone on planet earth was enslaved at some point only American chattel slavery tied skin color and notions of racial supremacy and inferiority to the enslavement.
Black Americans were told they were inferior to whites because of their race. No other group has had that done to them for 400+ years.
one thing you and the State of Islam need to learn, is that one of the key items to helping yourself is to stop blaming others, and waiting on others to change for your benefit. You aren't responsible for what happened to you, but you are responsible for how you respond to it.
A lot of people call or consider themselves "conservative" while being far from it. I'm talking about the label as it's used now.
I want the US government to go back to the size and scope that the founders intended. If MN or MI want to become immigrant havens then so be it, no skin off my azz.
Here the thing..chattel slavery is just a term made to make us feel bad . I promise you those enslaved in Africa at this moment feel less and are made to feel less then their slavers...as would any person who loses their freedom and is enslaved. That's how you keep enslaved people enslaved. It control. And it could have been totally race based in the US as those were major black slaves owners..so chattel slavery is a term made up by race baiters
So if Minnesota becomes a mini-Somalia and Michigan becomes a mini-Arabia you would be fine with it? Now tell me this. How long can a nation still be considered a nation if it has states in it that are more similar to other countries halfway across the world? You think America will continue to prosper if we have balkanized states within our country that are nothing like the rest of the country?
FYI this is exactly why Africa is a steaming mess right now. Europeans through colonialism drew artificial borders grouping different tribes with little in common with one another into nations and then excepted them to govern each other fairly. What happened was corruption and civil strife that continues to plague the continent to this day. Crazy to me that you want the same thing for America.
I definitely agree with you that all slavery sucks for those enslaved. The difference is that a few generations from now nobody will know who was enslaved and who wasn't in Africa. Why? Because everyone there is black. Slavery wasn't tied to skin color and notions of racial supremacy. Same reason why slavery has no effect on modern Greece and Italy despite slavery being common in the ancient world. The slaves in Ancient Greece and Rome weren't just one race that was enslaved because they were considered racially inferior.
The reason slavery still plagues us here in the Americas and nowhere else on the planet despite being abolished 160 years ago is because we were the only ones that tied race to slavery. So despite it being generations since the end of slavery we still know who was enslaved and who wasn't. And that is why its still relevant. If nobody knew who was a slave and who wasn't because all races were enslaved here then we in the modern world would be fine. But because we racialized slavery its consequences still persists with us to this day.
I don't think its irrelevant. I think its self generated at this point. or at least maintained from within the community far more than it is maintained from outside the community.When have I or the nation ever asked for white folk to change? LOL. Yall must got us confused with liberal blacks. We're not waiting for yall to change cause we don't expect it. What we wanna do is educate our people on having knowledge of self so they know who they really are and what they're capable of. You might think the ingrained racial inferiority that came from slavery is irrelevant. Fine. I'm not telling you that so you feel sorry for us. I was simply explaining why things are the way they are today.
My views are simple. Us black folk need to do for ourselves. We don't need anything from anybody else. We don't need your sympathy and we don't need your help. Like Denzel told that white liberal girl in the movie "Malcolm X" when she asked what she could do as a good white person to help in the cause. "Just stay out of the way".
what the eff are you smoking here?I definitely agree with you that all slavery sucks for those enslaved. The difference is that a few generations from now nobody will know who was enslaved and who wasn't in Africa. Why? Because everyone there is black. Slavery wasn't tied to skin color and notions of racial supremacy. Same reason why slavery has no effect on modern Greece and Italy despite slavery being common in the ancient world. The slaves in Ancient Greece and Rome weren't just one race that was enslaved because they were considered racially inferior.
The reason slavery still plagues us here in the Americas and nowhere else on the planet despite being abolished 160 years ago is because we were the only ones that tied race to slavery. So despite it being generations since the end of slavery we still know who was enslaved and who wasn't. And that is why its still relevant. If nobody knew who was a slave and who wasn't because all races were enslaved here then we in the modern world would be fine. But because we racialized slavery its consequences still persists with us to this day.
There were white, Mexican and Indian slaves in America so no it wasn't entirely race based. This is you reading biased sources to create a divide and play on your emotional state. Just as there were slaves of all races in Europe and the rest of world for 1000d of years and they have all over come it except American blacks.I definitely agree with you that all slavery sucks for those enslaved. The difference is that a few generations from now nobody will know who was enslaved and who wasn't in Africa. Why? Because everyone there is black. Slavery wasn't tied to skin color and notions of racial supremacy. Same reason why slavery has no effect on modern Greece and Italy despite slavery being common in the ancient world. The slaves in Ancient Greece and Rome weren't just one race that was enslaved because they were considered racially inferior.
The reason slavery still plagues us here in the Americas and nowhere else on the planet despite being abolished 160 years ago is because we were the only ones that tied race to slavery. So despite it being generations since the end of slavery we still know who was enslaved and who wasn't. And that is why its still relevant. If nobody knew who was a slave and who wasn't because all races were enslaved here then we in the modern world would be fine. But because we racialized slavery its consequences still persists with us to this day.