That's racist!

[C-south]

This is making an excuse. Now that you know that, I'm sure you won't keep doing it (lol)

For “why” not “what”.

 

[Wireless1]

Still waiting for the non-racist reasons that someone would donate to someone for using a racial slur

The fund raising was so she could move because she was doxed, correct? I'm a glass half full guy, so I prefer to look at it as most people (who might contribute because she was doxed) didn't contribute because of her actions, and the only ones who did were not offended by her actions.

 

[dalton_vol]

All the "things are changing" "No N***er Nation" "Thanks for fighting back" stuff is celebrating it

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I think the people who are donating to this, are more angry with the death threats black people are posting against this woman. If they didn't post anything she wouldn't be raising all this money.

 

[C-south]

Still waiting for the non-racist reasons that someone would donate to someone for using a racial slur

Why would someone donate to a black murderer that killed a white person?

 

[dalton_vol]

Curious, do you believe the five year old knows that word at an early age? Awful word to say as even the Somalian camera man was hesitant with saying it and not saying it as he filmed.

I would say they hear it 100 times a day

 

[C-south]

I would say they hear it 100 times a day

Probably in some popular “sing alongs”.

 

[volbound1700]

The fund raising was so she could move because she was doxed, correct? I'm a glass half full guy, so I prefer to look at it as most people (who might contribute because she was doxed) didn't contribute because of her actions, and the only ones who did were not offended by her actions.

Doxing is a major problem and doesn't solve racism. If someone is pushed away from society, they are just going to get more radicalized and join these radical groups. They have no where else to go. The best way to change someone is to have them be around people of the other race.

Go watch American History X and look at what changed Edward Norton's character.

The South really only started moving away from Jim Crow after we had desegregation and notably black athletes playing at SEC Schools (I think this was HUGE).

That being said, I think this lady just said something stupid in the heat of the moment.

 

[dalton_vol]

That's not just a word to black people. There's a reason decent white people don't say it. The history behind that word is worse than any other word in the English language. It's not like she called him a brat. When you use that word as a white person against someone black your intention is to hurt them in the worst way possible by reminding them of their place as being inferior to white folk. To direct that sort of hate at a 5 year old child is incomprehensible to me.

You say it's wrong but yet I see making excuses for it.

Yet blacks can say it because it's endearing?

 

[dalton_vol]

The two situations are wildly different.

The black kid claims it was self-defense and the people supporting him are supporting him because they believe it was in self-defense. You can disagree with their opinion on it being self-defense but you can't say they are supporting murder. Karmelo Anthony isn't saying he intentionally killed the kid.

This white lady isn't denying she called the 5 year old child the N word and the people donating to her are donating because she called a 5 year old child the N word and is unapologetic about it.

One situation is about potential innocence. The other is about unapologetic racism.

Lol. If you think they believe that kid was in self-defense. I've got a bridge on an ocean I'll sell you in Knoxville. That is as much of the racist situation.

 

[dalton_vol]

But a 5 year old child? That's who you want to see push back against for PC culture?

Look the main issue here isn't the N word. Racists say that everyday to black people. The shocking thing is that this was directed at a child. Maybe I'm the naive one here but I thought children were off limits even for racists. The fact anyone supported her racially abusing a child is mind-boggling. You can push back against PC culture without bringing children into it.

I'll reiterate once again. I can't think of anything a child could do that would make me do anything awful to them. I guess racists don't consider black kids to be children for such behavior to be excused.

I promise you, blacks call blacks that name way more than racists call black people that name.

 

[NashVol11]

For “why” not “what”.

If the "what" is inexcusable then there's no "why" excuse that means anything. No one is saying she's not allowed to be mad or whatever

 

[joevol33]

1. I'd bet my bottom dollar that the racial makeup of Karmelo's fundraiser is way more diverse than Shiloh's, and I'll reason it like this:
-the BLM movement (as well as the general belief that system racial oppression exists) is supported by black Americans, liberal white Americans, and other minorities in the US. It would hardly be surprising if those same supporters who condemned George Zimmerman were the same people finding justification here.
-White supremacists are 99.9% comprised of white people. Please feel free to contest that.

2. It's different because one is likely viewed as some sort of getback for the aforementioned oppression, where the other is just a rallying cry for calling a kid the N word because a certain, stupid subset of white people feel threatened in their whiteness.

As others have said two wrongs don't make a right.

With that said, the huge difference between the two incidents is the black kid claims he's innocent and was acting in self-defense against an aggressive high school football player. This white lady doesn't deny calling a 5 year old kid the N word. Black people aren't supporting Karmelo Anthony because he murdered a white kid in cold blood. They are supporting him because they believe he was acting in self-defense against an aggressor.

You can disagree with them on their opinion but you can't say they are supporting intentional murder. They are supporting a case of self-defense. On the other hand the white lady isn't claiming she's innocent. She's admitting she called a 5 year old child a racial slur and is unapologetic. And the white people supporting her are supporting her for this wanton racist behavior at a 5 year old child.

The lady was definitely wrong, and deserves nothing. The Anthony kid is gonna claim innocent, self defense, etc. He had a weapon, at a school event, that says what you need to know. While some may support him because of "racism", many celebrate him killing whitey. Look at any social media story about it, they're glad he murdered the guy, just over color
Both are pathetic situations

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

They hate it so much they are only allowed to use it exclusively.

You know it's different when black folk say it among each other. And I find it funny how white people act like this double standard is unique. All sorts of groups have words and sayings where it's fine if someone in the group says it but if an outsider says it then it becomes fighting words. A common example is women who are close friends will sometimes call each other the b-word but let a man say it to them and it's fighting words. Nobody tries to argue women shouldn't be offended when a stranger call them the b-word because their friend has sometimes referred to them with the very same word.

The N word is just the most extreme example of a term where it's okay when someone in the group says it but if an outsider says it then it's a fighting word. But let's not act like that's not a common principle in life. We all know that words can have very different meanings based on the context. To act like you're justified in using a word you know will offend in the context you're about to use it because it's used in other contexts where it's not offense is the height of wilfull ignorance.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Karmelo had a knife at a school event. How do you explain that?

Same reason people carry guns. Self defense. If he was experiencing long term bullying at the hands of this big football player he could have feared for his life and looked for the only weapon he had access to.

I know yall wanna make black people out to be these scary violent monsters but this Karmelo kid looked like a nerd. While the white kid was your All-American good looking popular high school football player. It's usually the popular jock that's bullying the other kids in school.

Now I don't know what happened and if lethal force was justified. All I know is just based on the two kids backgrounds it's plausible to me that the jock was bullying the nerd and the nerd was finally fed up and stood up for himself.

 

[OL SMOKEY]

You know it's different when black folk say it among each other. And I find it funny how white people act like this double standard is unique. All sorts of groups have words and sayings where it's fine if someone in the group says it but if an outsider says it then it becomes fighting words. A common example is women who are close friends will sometimes call each other the b-word but let a man say it to them and it's fighting words. Nobody tries to argue women shouldn't be offended when a stranger call them the b-word because their friend has sometimes referred to them with the very same word.

The N word is just the most extreme example of a term where it's okay when someone in the group says it but if an outsider says it then it's a fighting word. But let's not act like that's not a common principle in life. We all know that words can have very different meanings based on the context. To act like you're justified in using a word you know will offend in the context you're about to use it because it's used in other contexts where it's not offense is the height of wilfull ignorance.

This is one thing right here, that in all my years I have never understood. If this is such a terrible word with terrible meaning, which I agree it is, Then NOBODY should be using it in any context! Not black folk, white folk or any folk.

Just my opinion and I’m sure some on here will choose to disagree but that’s fine too.

And no I don’t think it’s acceptable for anyone to be calling someone a “B” word either.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Curious, do you believe the five year old knows that word at an early age? Awful word to say as even the Somalian camera man was hesitant with saying it and not saying it as he filmed.

So because the 5 year old may not understand it that makes it okay? Would you let grown men call your 5 year old daughter the "b word" simply because she might not understand what it means?

 

[Majors]

Same reason people carry guns. Self defense. If he was experiencing long term bullying at the hands of this big football player he could have feared for his life and looked for the only weapon he had access to.

I know yall wanna make black people out to be these scary violent monsters but this Karmelo kid looked like a nerd. While the white kid was your All-American good looking popular high school football player. It's usually the popular jock that's bullying the other kids in school.

Now I don't know what happened and if lethal force was justified. All I know is just based on the two kids backgrounds it's plausible to me that the jock was bullying the nerd and the nerd was finally fed up and stood up for himself.

Who’s “ya’ll”? I asked a question as to why a kid had a knife.

 

[FLVOL_79]

My question is this:

How did Uruk'hai know what a menu was?

That's too deep in the lore weeds for me to think about.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

This is one thing right here, that in all my years I have never understood. If this is such a terrible word with terrible meaning, which I agree it is, Then NOBODY should be using it in any context! Not black folk, white folk or any folk.

Just my opinion and I’m sure some on here will choose to disagree but that’s fine too.

And no I don’t think it’s acceptable for anyone to be calling someone a “B” word either.

Close girlfriends will sometimes say the "b word" to one another in a playful manner. It's a bad word in other contexts but in that specific context it isn't. The N word is like that for black people as a whole. It's not bad when we say it because we're bonded through shared trauma from said word so it can never be offensive when we say it to each other. Just like two girlfriends who have been through alot together know the other don't mean malice when they say the word.

It's a human thing. We all use words that might be offensive in other contexts but in specific contexts it isn't offensive. Another example is siblings might sometimes call each other fat. But if someone else were to call your sister fat them would be fighting words. Nobody says you shouldn't be offended that a stranger called your sibling fat cause you've done so as well in the past.

All these other double standards exist but yet people still wanna focus on the N word and why black people can say it to each other but white people can't. To me it's just another example of white privilege. Some white people can't stand not having every privilege.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

You know it's different when black folk say it among each other. And I find it funny how white people act like this double standard is unique. All sorts of groups have words and sayings where it's fine if someone in the group says it but if an outsider says it then it becomes fighting words. A common example is women who are close friends will sometimes call each other the b-word but let a man say it to them and it's fighting words. Nobody tries to argue women shouldn't be offended when a stranger call them the b-word because their friend has sometimes referred to them with the very same word.

The N word is just the most extreme example of a term where it's okay when someone in the group says it but if an outsider says it then it's a fighting word. But let's not act like that's not a common principle in life. We all know that words can have very different meanings based on the context. To act like you're justified in using a word you know will offend in the context you're about to use it because it's used in other contexts where it's not offense is the height of wilfull ignorance.

Is it bad that I used to sing along to this this song in HS cruising around in my KIA Sephia? Or is it worse that I sing it now as an older fugger in my Benz? Self censorship is difficult.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Who’s “ya’ll”. I asked a question as to why a kid had a knife.

And I answered that in the first sentence. Self defense. And the yall is everyone jumping to the conclusion he's guilty of murder. I'm not even saying he's innocent. I wasn't there nor am I privy to all the facts. All I'm saying is a self defense argument is PLAUSIBLE. And if self-defense is plausible then he deserves his day in court and doesn't deserve to be convicted in the court of public opinion.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Is it bad that I used to sing along to this this song in HS cruising around in my KIA Sephia? Or is it worse that I sing it now as an older fugger in my Benz? Self censorship is difficult.

I don't care if white people want to sing along with the word in rap songs. That's not what we're discussing. If some goofy black person cares about what you say in the privacy of your car then you're a fool for paying attention to them. What we're discussing is a woman using this word in a hateful context against a 5 year old child.

If you want a "N word pass" then befriend some black folk who'll be okay with you saying it around them. Otherwise just realize that some black people might take your use of the word as being similar to what this white lady did rather than taking it as someone who just enjoys hip hop culture. It's no different than not putting your hands on a woman's ass you don't know. If you wanna grab a girl's ass then first get in relationship with her so that you get the implied consent to grab her behind when you want. Otherwise don't be surprised if women smack you for grabbing their behind when they don't know you.

 

[volbound1700]

I was reading more up on the Karmelo case. Yeah, I am not sure he is going to win on the self-defense claim.

Crazy, both him and Austin Metcalf where pretty athletic and popular individuals at their school. You would think they would be friends.

Someone posted something about Karmelo looking like a nerd, per this article he was captain of the Football and Track team. This is a tragedy as both him and Austin had a great future. Not sure what could have possessed him to knife someone.

He definitely needs to be punished for it and I don't think you can claim "racism" here. Article below seems to provide good information about what happened. I had to go through 4-5 articles to get a more neutral, informative one.

Frisco track meet stabbing suspect released after bond reduced to $250,000

Frisco murder suspect Karmelo Anthony bonded out of jail on Monday after a judge agreed to reduce his $1 million bond.

www.fox4news.com

 

[Majors]

And I answered that in the first sentence. Self defense. And the yall is everyone jumping to the conclusion he's guilty of murder. I'm not even saying he's innocent. I wasn't there nor am I privy to all the facts. All I'm saying is a self defense argument is PLAUSIBLE. And if self-defense is plausible then he deserves his day in court and doesn't deserve to be convicted in the court of public opinion.

It’s not self defense if you brought a weapon.

Do you pick and choose on when to say “I wasn’t there not am I privy to all the facts”?

 

[PEPPERJAX]

I don't care if white people want to sing along with the word in rap songs. That's not what we're discussing. If some goofy black person cares about what you say in the privacy of your car then you're a fool for paying attention to them. What we're discussing is a woman using this word in a hateful context against a 5 year old child.

If you want a "N word pass" then befriend some black folk who'll be okay with you saying it around them. Otherwise just realize that some black people might take your use of the word as being similar to what this white lady did rather than taking it as someone who just enjoys hip hop culture. It's no different than not putting your hands on a woman's ass you don't know. If you wanna grab a girl's ass then first get in relationship with her so that you get the implied consent to grab her behind when you want. Otherwise don't be surprised if women smack you for grabbing their behind when they don't know you.

I am not asking for a pass and Thanks for the relationship advice buddy. It is probably a good idea to grab my wife's azz later today. If I get slapped then it will knock out the boredom of this mundane Monday afternoon.