Tennessee under NCAA investigation over use of recruiting hostesses

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#376
At what point do the secondary violations, the new investigation and any other violation(s) that come out of it, add up to "lack of institutional control"?

I'm starting to sweat...
 
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#377
so the NCAA launches a wide investigation based of 3rd party chatter from Marcus Lattimore...way to waste your money and time.....nothing will come of this because the girls did it on their own as friends of the players..no proof otherwise
 
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#378
They're trying to sidetrack this thing before it ever gets going guys. Another reason i hate our rival schools.
 
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blueraiderfan07 said:
Want to know how overblown the rules are? My nephew is a freshman football player in high school. He wants to go to my alma mater's bowl game. I can't take him or buy tickets because I am a athletic sponsor (donor). If I do, it would be considered a secondary violation, even though I am his uncle. Because in the NCAA eyes, I would be persuading him to 'attend' my alma mater. In my eyes, I just am taking my nephew to a football game for him to enjoy. Very picky with their rules.
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This is wrong.

Not only do you not have to be a family member, you could be an old family friend. If you can prove a relationship that preexists the football skills of the kid, you can give him food, money etc and it is no violation. Otherwise Michael Oher never could have gone to Ole Miss because his surrogate parents were engaging in all sorts of violations to push him away from the UT school they hate.
 
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notaguru2 said:
At what point do the secondary violations, the new investigation and any other violation(s) that come out of it, add up to "lack of institutional control"?

I'm starting to sweat...
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Once they start commiting major penalities. The small stuff happens all the time. It became a major focus since it is Tennessee and Lane Kiffin is a lightening rod. Now if they were paying players (LSU) or student selling textbooks (Alabama) then I would worry. This seems pretty minor and just makes news since it is UT. My guess is probably another secondary violation.
 
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MikeHamiltonFan said:
This is wrong.

Not only do you not have to be a family member, you could be an old family friend. If you can prove a relationship that preexists the football skills of the kid, you can give him food, money etc and it is no violation. Otherwise Michael Oher never could have gone to Ole Miss because his surrogate parents were engaging in all sorts of violations to push him away from the UT school they hate.
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If I remember correctly, they were heavily investigated for exactly that. Oher had to prove that he decided to go to Ole Miss because it's what he wanted to do. It was very much a violation for his parents (as donors) to pursuade him one way or the other.
May not be right, but that's the way it is.
 
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Panthro said:
If I remember correctly, they were heavily investigated for exactly that. Oher had to prove that he decided to go to Ole Miss because it's what he wanted to do. It was very much a violation for his parents (as donors) to pursuade him one way or the other.
May not be right, but that's the way it is.
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I really hope they don't investigate the Reviez brothers or we could be in serious trouble. And Eric Berry :yikes:
 
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“You don’t want to go to a college where they ain’t pretty,” Lattimore said.

Sounds like Lattimore knows good looking when he sees it.
I think when this is over it will be a loop hole in the system that will get closed. this is not boosters giving money, cars, trips, or easy babysitting jobs for cash,,,,, these are college girls coming to high school games and waving a sign.
 
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#385
my joke was underappreciated, so i'm going for it again, ahem...

So, I guess recruiting is about to get UGLY.

c'mon guys, throw me a bone
 
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#386
let's remember, an alabama booster took julio jones and another player on a fishing trip and the NCAA essentially gave them a pass so long as JJ paid the guy back the money he spent on the trip.

as long as kiffin and co. didn't tell these girls to go do this, it's nothing to worry about.

but, i've been wrong before.
 
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#390
Sounds like there are some other programs sweating CLK coming on the scene in such a dominant manner, and pushing some buttons to attach some negativity to his successful recruiting program.
 
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What does this mean for the players who have already committed? I know that some recruiting violations can cause a program to not be able to recruit that player, but does that count towards the players who are already committed?
 
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weezy potter said:
let's remember, an alabama booster took julio jones and another player on a fishing trip and the NCAA essentially gave them a pass so long as JJ paid the guy back the money he spent on the trip.

as long as kiffin and co. didn't tell these girls to go do this, it's nothing to worry about.

but, i've been wrong before.
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This is what I was going to say. Move on, nothing to see here. Just pushing the envelope a little
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#393
what is the worst that could happen is what i want to know? This seems so innocent. I want the NCAA to go to a florida high school game and if there are any Gator hats or shirts with Gator stuff on it then there has to be a violation. Sign or shirt it still has a schools name. And did the sign say "come to the University of Tennessee?" or did it say "come to Tennessee?" I mean this is a beautiful state to come and visit.
 
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#394
If this ends with the 'AA refusing to allow Miller and Willis to enroll here....this place will organize a riot. This could get very...VERY ugly!
 
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Morons and imbeciles.

Two points that I would like to quickly make.

1. Met a Vol Hostess before the SCjr game. She was very nice, cute, but absolutely had no agenda whatsoever or really much of a clue that she was even at a football game. Typical girl.

2. Anyone who has been on Volnation trolling and we all know that we are constantly trolled could build a pretty good case for investigating this because of all the specifics and details that were posted on here whether true or not. I found out about it a couple of months ago on Vol Nation- some dumb _____ was running his mouth about this and that. Some idiots postings on here have likely led to this investigation in my opinion. Our staff has more important things to do than fight ridiculous fires like this. Think before you post people. Please don't speculate, spread rumors, or gossip that will hurt us. Always assume that you are reaching 80% Vol fans and 20% Volhaters that want to take us down anyway they can.

Hate to say it, but I wasn't shocked when I read about the investigation.
 
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#397
The timing of this stinks all the way to Slive's doorstep. The one instance of the girls going to the game shouldn't require the NCAA to interview all of our recruits, considering most schools use hostesses. Are they going to do a system-wide investigation to determine the hostess influence at Florida or Alabama?
 
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#400
I hope the NCAA questions me....I'll tell them the truth. I provided pot and steroids to the Alabama Crimson Tide.:)
 
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