Team Strength a Concern for CDT

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volbeast33 said:
Then u should know it gives u an advantage against a similar skilled player.....every coach has a different thing they look for.
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You should know that certain body types (tall, long arms) don't always excel in certain types of strength excercises - and that's ok. Durant and JRich have very long arm spans which is perfect for basketball but not so much for bench pressing - and there is nothing wrong about that. It is even possible to mess someones body up by forcing them to hit certain statistical targets just for the sake of hitting them - it can actually be detrimental to their primary sport.
 
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TGVol said:
You should know that certain body types (tall, long arms) don't always excel in certain types of strength excercises - and that's ok. Durant and JRich have very long arm spans which is perfect for basketball but not so much for bench pressing - and there is nothing wrong about that. It is even possible to mess someones body up by forcing them to hit certain statistical targets just for the sake of hitting them - it can actually be detrimental to their primary sport.
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So true... the longer your arms, the harder it is to bench.
 
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SlyStone said:
Music Bowl -v- Sweet Sixteen. Hmmm... I stand corrected. We lost to UNC 2010.
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That was my first and only bowl game. What a downer! Game over, Tennessee won, and then! And then last year, I was sitting on row 3 with the line of scrimmage right in front of me in the game with Vandy where Tennessee got the fourth down stop and they were on the way to another bowl game if they beat Kentucky. Challenge, overturn, next play Vandy throws inside the ten to their ace receiver. Game over and a bigger downer!
 
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walkenvol said:
Now you're being the d!ck as CDD's arseness has been widely documented.

As for my personal knowledge, my neice works for UT and shared the employee storys with me. Also have a co-worker who's son works in the UT athletic dept and he shared the similar stories. Happy?
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Calm down Cletus. You made a statement to make it appear you knew each of them personally. I simply pointed out that I didn't believe you did.
 
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not worried about bench press this year really but if Jrich wants to play at the next level, he needs to get bigger by lifting. Can't compare a 7'0 lanky dude like Durant to say if he doesn't need it, Jrich doesn't. Different games and bodies. If you can't throw some weights around a little, you might get shoved around.
 
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TGVol said:
You should know that certain body types (tall, long arms) don't always excel in certain types of strength excercises - and that's ok. Durant and JRich have very long arm spans which is perfect for basketball but not so much for bench pressing - and there is nothing wrong about that. It is even possible to mess someones body up by forcing them to hit certain statistical targets just for the sake of hitting them - it can actually be detrimental to their primary sport.
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It's a baseline goal for his basketball players.....a goal I will bet that Jrich reaches before the end of the summer.....90% of all basketball players have long arms so I assume it will be a fairly close comparison between the players.
 
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TGVol said:
Wrong. I played for UT on varsity full scholarship and was an all-american in my sport (not football or basketball).
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I could also find examples for you of NFL running backs who ran 4.6 or 4.7 and who were successful. Does that we shouldn't concern ourselves with speed training?

Just because one player never put in any work in the weight room and was successful, does not mean it's the best way to go.
 
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JettVol said:
And how did USM do in the tourney?? last I checked we made it to the sweet 16. bench pressing doesn't translate into wins.
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How many bids did CUSA get? That's a tiresome response. If you don't win the CUSA tourney you're not getting in. Some of y'all act like USM was pitiful and that's why they didn't make it. Do Stokes and Maymon return? His response was in regards to returning players. Not last years team. Reading comprehension is an art form I reckon.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Always thought Richardson was pretty weak, really struggled defensively guarding bigger guys, like a Nik Stauskas, Cleanthony Early or Jabari Brown.
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You do realize Stauskas is basically the exact same size as JRich and Brown has probably 10lbs on him? Your attempt at sarcasm is duly noted but failed miserably.
 
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TGVol said:
You should know that certain body types (tall, long arms) don't always excel in certain types of strength excercises - and that's ok. Durant and JRich have very long arm spans which is perfect for basketball but not so much for bench pressing - and there is nothing wrong about that. It is even possible to mess someones body up by forcing them to hit certain statistical targets just for the sake of hitting them - it can actually be detrimental to their primary sport.
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Wouldn't you think a collegiate basketball coach and a professional S&C coach would understand that and take it into consideration?
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
Wouldn't you think a collegiate basketball coach and a professional S&C coach would understand that and take it into consideration?
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You would think that - if there was a consensus even between professionals how important this really is - but then we would not be discussing this. In our case CCM and his S&C professional coach did not seem to worry about JRich and presumably others not benching more and the team was still physical and successfully made sweet 16. And in addition to Kevin Durant I'm sure many other highly successful players can be found who did not do particularly well in the weight room (perhaps would have done WORSE if they focused on that rather than some other aspects of the overall training).
 
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Great move by CDT...J-Rich is going to love getting his business put in the street like this...
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
You mean the year that Memphis, UCF, SMU etc were still in the league? That league is basically the Sun Belt with a new name, especially beginning next year.
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Did all those teams vacate C-USA in Tyndall's first season? I thought Memphis' 1st year in the AAC was just this past year?
 
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dal9 said:
Great move by CDT...J-Rich is going to love getting his business put in the street like this...
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typical response representing the wussification of America.
Maybe you 2 can cry about it together. Or maybe he can go bench a little, get stronger, and give himself a shot at the next level.
NBA scouts have already talked about how weak McRae is and how he is knocked off the ball easily. Hopefully he doesn't get upset at them "putting it out there on the street".

ridiculous
 
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Vol8188 said:
I could also find examples for you of NFL running backs who ran 4.6 or 4.7 and who were successful. Does that we shouldn't concern ourselves with speed training?
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Speed is always important. However, you should understand there is a trade-off between speed and physical strength/muscle mass. If people get too big (strong) at some point it decreases their speed. Othwerwise O-Lineman and receivers would have the same strength programs, diets, etc - and I hope you do realize that's not the case. In basketball if people get too big/muscular they can start losing shooting touch (Dwight Howard is a good recent example).
 
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TGVol said:
Speed is always important. However, you should understand there is a trade-off between speed and physical strength/muscle mass. If people get too big (strong) at some point it decreases their speed. Othwerwise O-Lineman and receivers would have the same strength programs, diets, etc - and I hope you do realize that's not the case. In basketball if people get too big/muscular they can start losing shooting touch (Dwight Howard is a good recent example).
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I see what your saying, but I'm not sure Howard is the best example. Howard is not the best shooter, but his strength has made him an elite rebounder and defender. Plus, he's got a nice contract.
 
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TGVol said:
Speed is always important. However, you should understand there is a trade-off between speed and physical strength/muscle mass. If people get too big (strong) at some point it decreases their speed. Othwerwise O-Lineman and receivers would have the same strength programs, diets, etc - and I hope you do realize that's not the case. In basketball if people get too big/muscular they can start losing shooting touch (Dwight Howard is a good recent example).
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Not sure D Howard had much shooting touch to lose. :)But I do agree with your point.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Did all those teams vacate C-USA in Tyndall's first season? I thought Memphis' 1st year in the AAC was just this past year?
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The point I was making was USM got in without winning the league in 2011-12, when those teams were still in. His first year Memphis was still there and it was a 1 bid league that year as it was last year. Without Memphis, SMU and even UCF to help boost it up it's definitely a one bid league now. Both years USM finished with top 30 RPI's and were left out. Not much more they could've done outside of winning the tourney title. He finished 2nd and 1st in the regular season his two years there.
 
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