Team Strength a Concern for CDT

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walkenvol said:
Then you really didn't know either coach. CDD was a total d!ck whereas CCM was a nice guy. Maybe CCM didn't interview well with the media but he clearly wasn't an arse to the folks in the athletic department like CDD was.
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Yeah Dooley was much better interview but he was an arse and an idiot.....I'd take CCM by a large margin over Dools.
 
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vols 30 said:
But I thought CM's Strengh coach, Nostradamus was the greatest thing since sliced bread. I mean he sure knew how to be a cheerleader on the bench.
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That's why it makes me laugh when people fret over S&C coaches. It seems like tenn fans do it after every one we lose.
 
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SlyStone said:
Comparing Coach Martin too Dooley is just plain off base. Dooley - no Bowls and losing seasons. Coach Martin winning seasons and a sweet sixteen. There is no comparison. You shouldn't buy everything everyone sells at you. Watched this team play many games last season and strength and condition was never an issue. Making buckets perhaps, but not condition.
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Dooley went to the music city bowl in his 1st season.
 
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vols 30 said:
But I thought CM's Strengh coach, Nostradamus was the greatest thing since sliced bread. I mean he sure knew how to be a cheerleader on the bench.
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Man, give it a rest. Comments like this only further perpetuate the CCM/Tyndall divide. We get it. Your disdain for CCM is well-documented. You don't have to remind everyone daily. Just like the pro-Cuonzo crowd doesn't have to rattle the cage every time Tyndall makes what they perceive to be a questionable move.

Let CDT's tenure be judged on its own merits, and not based on what CCM (and staff) did, or didn't do.
 
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Jake Tate said:
Gosh, 6'10", 185??? I'm 6'5", 190, and I am in no way in basketball shape right now.

That kid needs 60lbs. Lucky he's in the south and has 5 months. Send him to my mama's house. He'll eat 5 meals a day, and every one will have at least two things fried, and lots of protein...

Biscuits and bacon gravy, anyone?
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I Volunteer my services as biscuits and gravy coordinator! That kid will be in "shape" in no time.
 
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walkenvol said:
Then you really didn't know either coach. CDD was a total d!ck whereas CCM was a nice guy. Maybe CCM didn't interview well with the media but he clearly wasn't an arse to the folks in the athletic department like CDD was.
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I bet you didn't know either one of them. Why act like you did?
 
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SlyStone said:
Comparing Coach Martin too Dooley is just plain off base. Dooley - no Bowls and losing seasons. Coach Martin winning seasons and a sweet sixteen. There is no comparison. You shouldn't buy everything everyone sells at you. Watched this team play many games last season and strength and condition was never an issue. Making buckets perhaps, but not condition.
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So we shouldn't buy what the HC says? You're right, I'll take your word over hearing CDT say it directly.
 
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GBOVOLS said:
yeah you are just throwing crap. Anyone who watched a game could see UT was well conditioned and over powered most teams we played
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We overpowered with the two guys who weighed 260+. If you're struggling reading, CDT was referencing the returning guys as well as his guys (which obviously haven't had time yet). Folks keep saying conditioning, that's not the same as strength.
 
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While it may be disappointing that JRich only did 4, the average for the current team will inevitably go down because if the loss of Stokes and Maymon. Those two alone will bring it back up. The leftovers from last year's team are guards and a stretch 4. Don't understand why it's a huge deal. Stokes changed his body while in college, so there is no reason to criticize the old regime about S&C at this point. I am excited about Tyndall, but this is not something that needs to be dissected. Comparing Dooley and Martin was always strange to me. They both had faults, but let's all move on. It should be exciting to see what Tyndall can do.
 
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Does the AD tell new coaches to call out the old strength/conditioning coach? That was butch's first excuse too. How many of these players were even here last year?
 
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Spartacavolus said:
I bet you didn't know either one of them. Why act like you did?
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Now you're being the d!ck as CDD's arseness has been widely documented.

As for my personal knowledge, my neice works for UT and shared the employee storys with me. Also have a co-worker who's son works in the UT athletic dept and he shared the similar stories. Happy?
 
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SlyStone said:
Comparing Coach Martin too Dooley is just plain off base. Dooley - no Bowls and losing seasons. Coach Martin winning seasons and a sweet sixteen. There is no comparison. You shouldn't buy everything everyone sells at you. Watched this team play many games last season and strength and condition was never an issue. Making buckets perhaps, but not condition.
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Correct.
 
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SlyStone said:
Comparing Coach Martin too Dooley is just plain off base. Dooley - no Bowls and losing seasons. Coach Martin winning seasons and a sweet sixteen. There is no comparison. You shouldn't buy everything everyone sells at you. Watched this team play many games last season and strength and condition was never an issue. Making buckets perhaps, but not condition.
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Those Martin supporters are a strange bunch.
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
Yesterday at the Nashville Sports Festival CDT touched on our lack of strength compared to his USM team in response to a fan question asking what concerns him the most going into next year. On Friday they did strength, vertical, agility tests and measurements with everyone who's on campus and he said 185lb. bench press is the standard they used because that's what the NBA uses at the combine. Last years USM team averaged 13 reps of 185 while we averaged 6 on Friday. He singled out JRich for only being able to do 4. He was astonished at how "weak" the returning players were and without saying as much it was clear that he wondered what the hell the strength program had consisted of in the previous years. He also noted that Owens measured in at 6'10, 185 and laughed at everyone's reaction. Then followed it up with "but he can jump through the ceiling."

Despite his affection for lankier guys that can get up and down the court it's apparent we need to add more strength and size if we're to be successful in his system and this league.
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And how did USM do in the tourney?? last I checked we made it to the sweet 16. bench pressing doesn't translate into wins.
 
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JettVol said:
And how did USM do in the tourney?? last I checked we made it to the sweet 16. bench pressing doesn't translate into wins.
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No one appears to be saying bench pressing translates into wins. Strength and conditioning are measurable factors in testing players physical attributes for athletic performance. They are important when pitting one athlete against another just like quickness and speed. If you have ever coached before, especially beyond high school, then you will understand why coaches put a premium on players strength, speed, quickness, and conditioning besides skills. This is when skills are equal, the physical factors can be just enough to make a big difference.
 
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Always thought Richardson was pretty weak, really struggled defensively guarding bigger guys, like a Nik Stauskas, Cleanthony Early or Jabari Brown.
 
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I would say bench press is one of the least important measures you can have for a ball player.

One: many have long arms which hurts bench press. Doesn't necessarily mean you are weaker.

Two: benching (if not done right) can mess up your flexibility and shot.

I'm interest in vertical, lateral movement test and cardio.
 
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TGVol said:
Wrong. I played for UT on varsity full scholarship and was an all-american in my sport (not football or basketball).
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Then u should know it gives u an advantage against a similar skilled player.....every coach has a different thing they look for.
 
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