Systemic Racism

[Rickyvol77]

I started a new thread, because I keep asking this question of the "woke" crowd of posters but can't get an answer.

Please give me examples of "systematic racism' that African Americans face that prevent them from succeeding in America. I truly would like to see what the thoughts are on this.

I am also curious as to why this "systematic racism" doesn't affect Asians, Hispanics, Middle-Eastern races the same ways

 

[DinkinFlicka]

I started a new thread, because I keep asking this question of the "woke" crowd of posters but can't get an answer.

Please give me examples of "systematic racism' that African Americans face that prevent them from succeeding in America. I truly would like to see what the thoughts are on this.

I am also curious as to why this "systematic racism" doesn't affect Asians, Hispanics, Middle-Eastern races the same ways

First off, systemic is the word you're fumbling for.

Second... considering you have spent the past 45 days arguing against literally every single blatant example of its existence, I don't think anyone is going to be particularly motivated to do your homework for you. If you actually sought to understand in lieu of entrenching yourself in the notion that everyone has the exact same opportunity and pathways to success regardless of skin, then you might have a viable thread here. If you actually give two ****s, do your own research and listen instead of constantly running your mouth in denial that you inherently have it easier because your skin is white as rice.

In b4 "so you don't have examples."

There are tons, but it's not on me to show you something so obvious. My suggestion for you is to sit down with a person of color and listen. Stop running your mouth for once, and just ****ing listen.

My 2 cents. Good luck with your echo chamber thread. I'm sure justin will be along shortly to stroke your e-dick.

 

[allvol123]

First off, systemic is the word you're fumbling for.

Second... considering you have spent the past 45 days arguing against literally every single blatant example of its existence, I don't think anyone is going to be particularly motivated to do your homework for you. If you actually sought to understand in lieu of entrenching yourself in the notion that everyone has the exact same opportunity and pathways to success regardless of skin, then you might have a viable thread here. If you actually give two ****s, do your own research and listen instead of constantly running your mouth in denial that you inherently have it easier because your skin is white as rice.

In b4 "so you don't have examples."

There are tons, but it's not on me to show you something so obvious. My suggestion for you is to sit down with a person of color and listen. Stop running your mouth for once, and just ****ing listen.

My 2 cents. Good luck with your echo chamber thread. I'm sure justin will be along shortly to stroke your e-dick.

He asked a question and you spent minute minutes not answering it. Good job.

 

[tennvols77]

Individuals. The person. Doesn't matter race, creed, color, affiliation.

Self reliance, self dependence, and rugged individualism make for success, whatever barometer is applied to what "success" is. Obstacles are obstacles, no matter how small or big, and the only thing that doesn't yield success is falling victim to the obstacles instead of overcoming them.

Frederick Douglas is the best example. It truly lies within the human. Everything else is excuses and for losers, and that's why there are so few winners.

Feast or famine. Go back in time. It is very simple, we just like to think it isn't. Necessity is the mother of all invention, and more so, all survival.

We just happen to live in a system where by resources and the ability to sustain and live, are too easy. Take it all away, crumble the whole thing down, and you'll see the same people thrive and same fail, no matter color, creed, or race.

 

[hog88]

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[tennvols77]

There are barriers, and there are obstacles for any deprived persons.

Resources, and having access to, only allow for greater chances of success. It is simple.

I don't know if that is racism, or, just the reality and inequity of life.

 

[KB5252]

I think it is interesting the two most successful groups in today's America are Asian and Indian Americans.

Here a few of the values they exude which are important IMO.

Self Reliance
Education first and above all else
Discipline which goes with the first example but they are strict and typically do not allow children to make excuses without being challenged.

White and black America should take note IMO.

 

[volfanjustin]

I started a new thread, because I keep asking this question of the "woke" crowd of posters but can't get an answer.

Please give me examples of "systematic racism' that African Americans face that prevent them from succeeding in America. I truly would like to see what the thoughts are on this.

I am also curious as to why this "systematic racism" doesn't affect Asians, Hispanics, Middle-Eastern races the same ways

Some people enjoy being victims and that's not specific to one race.

There is racism among every group of people, of course it's only pointed at white people

Like I asked in the other thread, what evidence is there to suggest the death of Mr Floyd was race related?

 

[utvolpj]

There are barriers, and there are obstacles for any deprived persons.

Resources, and having access to, only allow for greater chances of success. It is simple.

I don't know if that is racism, or, just the reality and inequity of life.

I think it's a system built over centuries that some believe should be solved in less than a generation

 

[FLVOL_79]

Systemic racism is a dog whistle for liberals that is used to stoke racial tension and White guilt. It is also the best go to for a scapegoat since its such a touchy subject many limp wrist lefties find it too difficult to discuss.

First thing people need to realize is that we all aren't created equal. That's science.

Secondly, we all have equal opportunity. Your poor choices in life at squandering that opportunity are mostly your fault and your fault alone.

Does racism exist? Yep. Everyone here is guilty of it.

Is it holding anyone back? Mostly no. I am sure somewhere in some place someone didn't get a promotion because of racism but I would surmise it is statistically inconsequential.

 

[NashVol11]

Imagine bragging about “asking this question” and “having this discussion” so many times and never paying enough attention to even get the name right...

 

[allvol123]

Imagine bragging about “asking this question” and “having this discussion” so many times and never paying enough attention to even get the name right...

You are good at never giving specifics when asked.

 

[NashVol11]

You are good at never giving specifics when asked.

When people actively refuse to read the specifics that are out there, specifics aren’t the problem. But there’s plenty of time for you and/or Ricky to learn about search engines

 

[allvol123]

Sorry @Rickyvol77 you arent going to see any real answers here.

You might get some examples of individuals doing something malicious, but you arent going to see this machined system that is so often referenced.

There are all races and sexes in government from city councils up to governors to the federal level. You have state agencies filled with diversity. Yet, somehow, there is still this super secret method of keeping people down based on their color that has managed to stay alive.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

He asked a question and you spent minute minutes not answering it. Good job.

2 whole minutes. What will I ever do with all that lost time?

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Sorry @Rickyvol77 you arent going to see any real answers here.

You might get some examples of individuals doing something malicious, but you arent going to see this machined system that is so often referenced.

There are all races and sexes in government from city councils up to governors to the federal level. You have state agencies filled with diversity. Yet, somehow, there is still this super secret method of keeping people down based on their color that has managed to stay alive.

Slurp slurp slurp

 

[allvol123]

When people actively refuse to read the specifics that are out there, specifics aren’t the problem. But there’s plenty of time for you and/or Ricky to learn about search engines

Probably in double digits on non answers today. Bet you will reach triple.

I'm not sure any group would want you as a member, other than to perform as cheerleader. You cant articulate any idea or position with any degree of detail.

 

[tennvols77]

Think in terms of the Renaissance, or great awakening period. Or the Industrial Revolution. Or the Victorian era.

You need food on your table you ain't got time to do anything except find a way too eat.

You live a posh and pampered life and don't need to simply survive, you got time to read and attend university and learn and grow and open up more visible and viable options to achieve, attain, or accumulate.

You had resources that allowed for more opportunity, instead of having to hunt and fish and gather all day to survive.

And, let's be honest, history is littered with conflict and war and power struggles, and ultimately, it is always tribal and like minded and genetically similar people who are against another set of tribal and like minded and genetically similar peoples......over resources that sustain and make life better. This isn't a new thing.

We are just spoiled in America and community gives way to power and money as we are sprung from the rugged individualism of our founders and settlers. Sadly, sometimes, the greater whole suffer due to individual needs and wants outweighing the greater good. And, in doing so, you and your problems aren't mine and vice versa. Right, wrong, or indifferent, sometimes you only look at for numero uno and yours.

 

[allvol123]

2 whole minutes. What will I ever do with all that lost time?

Dont care about your time. Just pointing out you chose to spend it avoiding the question.

 

[NashVol11]

https://fpg.unc.edu/sites/fpg.unc.edu/files/resources/other-resources/What Racism Looks Like.pdf

 

[tennvols77]

2 whole minutes. What will I ever do with all that lost time?

You'll never know.........it's lost.......right?

 

[NashVol11]

Implicit racial bias and the anatomy of institutional racism | Centre for Crime and Justice Studies

Also these:

Here's a few links to issues for you to deny are true.

Why It Costs More to Borrow if You're Black

Disparity in home lending costs minorities millions, researchers find

Same Crime, More Time

Black defendants spend more time in jail for the same crimes. Something has to change | Column

The Impact of Structural Racism in Employment and Wages on Minority Women’s Health

 

[Ten_Titans]

There's tons of examples of systemic racism. All you have to do is assume every ethnic disparity between black people and the rest of Americans is because of an inherent racist system.

It is just like having the feminist wage gap argument. Racial disparity is not evidence of racism. Racist policy or racist actions are evidence of racism.

It's a tired argument so I don't really care about having it anymore. I just tell people good luck fixing the racist system when you can't even find a racist person or policy in it.

I can think of a bunch of things to give black people a better chance in life to do great things. Lower the single motherhood rate. Lower the violent crime rate. Lower the high school drop out rate. System must be super racist because all of those things have gotten worse even since Jim Crow.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Dont care about your time. Just pointing out you chose to spend it avoiding the question.

I actually gave him a solution.

Sit down in person and ask someone of color how they think their life is different than his because of their color. He won't be behind the anonymity of his keyboard so he'll be more inclined to listen and less inclined being a smug piece of ****. That effect is universal.

He won't get that honest discussion here. When he's not surrounded by people like *you* slapping his ass in agreement, he's engaging in vile back and forths with people like me. No one comes here to change their opinions. Literally no one.

 

[GoBigOrangeUT]

This is a bootstrap crowd. They feel that if one person can pull themselves up that all people have the ability to do so. Never mind the generations of poverty growing up in the projects. You need money, you commit a crime, you go to jail, you get out, can’t get a job, back to needing money. Rinse repeat over and over and over again. So yes, it’s systemic. And no, I don’t know the answer. The government, whether it be republican or Democrat, has **** all over these people and has done nothing to help alleviate the problem.