Swain not impressed with Wells hire.

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sanddune50 said:
Because Mahoney had been with Butch 6 years upon arriving here. Also, Debord working with Mahoney had the line looking better in 2015 than they did in 2014. While they regressed in 2016, why would you let a QC assistant take over midseason over your OC and O-line coach? That would have been a recipe for disaster. Meaning Butch would have appeared more desperate and would have lost the team, lost confidence from the boosters, and the other coaches he had under him. It's not a video game.
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No need to act like im stupid by saying its not a video game. What im saying is its pretty reasonable to see how people can be skeptical. If the guy was such a good coach, he should have been the oline coach all along.
 
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BGKYVol said:
Wisdom passed down from on high by another expert with an unbelievable string of success coaching his 8 year olds' flag football team, not to mention his four year career as the waterboy for his HS football team
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There's nothing wrong with coaching youth sports. I would brag that my son is leading the league in tackles. The problem is I am coaching his basketball team.
 
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My Dearest Evelyn,

As we march toward inevitable battle as the leaves change, word has spread through camp of the disregard for the promotion of our latest officer from Lord Swain. While lacking the recognition similar to his peers, Officer Wells proves well in rallying those to our noble cause. Fear not my dear Evelyn, we are blessed in good spirits and leadership.

Forever yours,

E.T. SuVol the 13th
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
There's nothing wrong with coaching youth sports. I would brag that my son is leading the league in tackles. The problem is I am coaching his basketball team.
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Laughed and spit coffee all over my keyboard. Well done friend.
 
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The interent is such a funny place:

Jayson Swain " Im not impressed with the Wells hire"

Internet response from those that agree: yep, CBJ sucks, wells sucks, the vols suck, quit pumping sunshine you CBJ worshippers.

Internent response from those that disagree: swain sucks, wells is great, why is everyone outraged we have the best staff in America, just anyother excuse to bash Butch

Reality response from those that agree: "ok"

Reality response from those that disagree: "ok"
 
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volfannbama said:
The interent is such a funny place:

Jayson Swain " Im not impressed with the Wells hire"

Internet response from those that agree: yep, CBJ sucks, wells sucks, the vols suck, quit pumping sunshine you CBJ worshippers.

Internent response from those that disagree: swain sucks, wells is great, why is everyone outraged we have the best staff in America, just anyother excuse to bash Butch

Reality response from those that agree: "ok"

Reality response from those that disagree: "ok"
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Way to go...now you've ruined the thread.

You'd better watch out, us Nega's may strike up an alliance with the Pumpers to defeat and subjegate you Realists.
 
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volfannbama said:
No need to act like im stupid by saying its not a video game. What im saying is its pretty reasonable to see how people can be skeptical. If the guy was such a good coach, he should have been the oline coach all along.
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The comment is ridiculous. And I explained why. Acting as if he was a lesser O-line coach than Mahoney and Debord because Butch didn't give him a bigger role as the season rolled on has a video game feel to it. It was Wells first year at UT and he was hired as a quality control coach. No head coach is going to make that move midseason.
 
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While we are on the topic of the OL, I would like to implore all of you to watch the You Tube tape of Cade Mays at the 5 star challenge. I believe he was the only Jr invited and you can see why. This future Vol is a stud already and stll has another year of high school. Can't wait to see Trey and Cade together.
 
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'Boro-vol said:
Way to go...now you've ruined the thread.

You'd better watch out, us Nega's may strike up an alliance with the Pumpers to defeat and subjegate you Realists.
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a 3 party system? no, can't have that.
 
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'Boro-vol said:
There are considerably more posters that view everything Butch does as sacrosanct, and touched by Providence, refusing to view anything he does with a critical eye based on the facts. It's the difference between unconditional support for the coach, and a desire to see the best for the program no matter who leads it.

There is nothing wrong with questioning this or any other hire being made, and fairly gauging the shortcomings we see.
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It's not nearly as black and white as you're trying to make it be so that, by innuendo, you can claim rightous desire for success by those who

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Orangedogsrule said:
It's not nearly as black and white as you're trying to make it be so that, by innuendo, you can claim rightous desire for success by those who

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i think you just proved his point....:whistling:
 
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KBVol said:
It's his job to comment on all things Vol football....shutting up doesn't fit his job description as a radio talk show host.

As far as Wells' resume, he's never coached at a P5 school before, certainly not in the SEC in charge at a vital position group like OL, so the jury is out on him to be sure.

Additionally, his reasoning is fair imo, in light of what happened last year when Jones fired Lawson and then named his immediate assistant Sjursen as his successor....it didn't work out hiring from within then and I think it's right to question it now.

All that said, you can give an honest critique while still giving him a chance, which is what Swain is doing. Here are some tweets from him about the hire......

We all hope so. Rooting him on big time

@rcjakes he's not proven yet. Nothing about EKU WKU NMST and getting fired at USF says proven. doesn't mean he won't be successful here

Falls into the retread category respectfully. Not proven like a Sam Pittman. Doesn't mean he can't be successful.

Honestly, the replacement has been a OL coach before joining as a QC coach. The OL group are older.
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Very well said. Speaking of Pittman, I would have made run at him. JMO
 
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Vfl2407 said:
Said that Wells was one of 3 OL Coaches last year with Mahoney and Debord.
Swain says if all 3 put out a bad product last year, how will now just one of them coaching alone put out a better product.
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Too many cooks in the kitchen, sometimes too many people all teaching things their own way is detrimental. Maybe Jones liked wells style and found it to be the most effective and decided he had the best future at the position. Now we can have a singular message from somebody who finally has full power over the position and can do things his own specific way. Good news is it cant get much worse and at least weve recruited there much better than under dooley. Mays will make 3 straight classes with a 5 star tackle.
 
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i think the issue of wells being a QC coach, and not immediately made OL coach, is being overblown.
 
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jakez4ut said:
i think the issue of wells being a QC coach, and not immediately made OL coach, is being overblown.
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I don't disagree. I think the real issue is lack of experience. It, like several of the off season hires, seem like "taking what we can get". Understandable after coming up short in what should have been a year that saw us in Atlanta.

This guy may be great. I hope he is. No way to know based on his history however. He should not be judged solely on the QC position however.
 
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Vfl2407 said:
Said that Wells was one of 3 OL Coaches last year with Mahoney and Debord.
Swain says if all 3 put out a bad product last year, how will now just one of them coaching alone put out a better product.
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Let's be careful on the presentation here. I heard Swain early this morning. While you are very close in Swain's choice of words, I didn't think he stated it in a way that implied he was against the promotion. Rather, his tone was very non-committal as he was talking. I took his words as let's wait and see. He admitted that what he was saying resulted from his thoughts coming into the studio this morning. I'm not sure if you asked him now that his opinion would be the same. He also said it was important that he not allow himself to be perceived by the listeners as "buddy buddy" with the coaching staff. It was very disjointed and frankly gave me the impression he hadn't fully digested this completely.
 
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utvolpj said:
That coordinator set records with his offense.
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Fans and Butch keep using that as way of defending Debord but those numbers are skewed because of the numbers we put up the last 4 games against Vandy,UK,Mizzou and TN Tech. 4 horrid defense's. We had 5 games this year we didn't even get 400 yards and 6 we didn't get over 404 total yards. With 4 of those we got less that 330 total yards.The first games we were 5-3,averaged 29 pts and 381 total yards..but add in those last 4 games again horrible defense's and they bumped our average from 29 to 36 pts a game and 381 to 437 yards game. We were never consistent under Debord.
 
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#150
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Whatever I think of this hire, Butch has shown me he is willing to change coaches at any position and any time he thinks necessary. Just look at the DC hire last year, Jancek's D looked pretty good but Butch "Upgraded" to Shoop.
 
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