Swain not buying CJP explanation on Maurer

[rocytop2624]

I don't think the team needed him at all, I think we'd be exactly where we are. The team needed a healthy Bituli, Thompson and our 20 young guys that play to develop. Senior leadership is what this team needed and we've had that the last 4 weeks, it's why we are in position to finish strong I feel.

They help but the offense was flat lined and it needed a spark and that's what Maurer did.

 

[BeardedVol]

So then JG came in and balled out? Lol. What about his throw at the end of the half? And he is just late on every single pass. That’s why he gets hit so much

It's @PulaskiVolFan 's shtick, disregard and dismiss any and all of JG's shortcomings, and stick to the fallacy that for Maurer or Shrout to be "better" than JG, they have to play flawlessly. If anyone disagrees, just label them part of the "anyone but JG crowd".

 

[sjt18]

They help but the offense was flat lined and it needed a spark and that's what Maurer did.

More than a spark. He gets the ball out quicker and has a more compact throwing motion. He anticipates well. He’s decisive.
We don’t know if he can rein it in and avoid turnovers. I don’t know how well he managed the O.

He may not be the answer but what he’s done well stands in stark contrast to what JG doesn’t do well

 

[rikberry31]

ESPN has our offense ranked 87th for efficiency so far for this year. Last year it was 84th. Great improvements this year for our offense.

Upside is that our defense has actually improved, currently at 36th; last year was 49th.

Team Efficiencies - 2019 - ESPN

We're winning and playing with good teams. If anyone has problems where we are now compared to the beginning then there's no pleasing them.

 

[PulaskiVolFan]

A JG fanboy's position on Shrout vs JG doesn't worry me the least but
not seeing that Shrout is 10 times better than JG is what worries me about Pruitt.
Heck anybody is better than JG.

Not true about Shrout being better, he may have more potential but he's not a better option THIS season.

 

[butchna]

He can still apply for a medical RS. Whether he gets it or not remains to be seen.

You’re wrong. Name me somebody who’s listed as a redshirt the season after exceeding the limit. And MEDICAL redshirt is a misnomer. You don’t get a redshirt OR a medical redshirt. If your redshirt is listed “for medical reasons”, then you’re ELIGIBLE to apply for an additional season of eligibility...like Brandon Kennedy will have possibly. If you don’t qualify for a redshirt...you can’t.

 

[landscapingvol]

Wait....am I confused?
This was in the post I originally replied to you.
"Shrout played well filling in for JG but he was the reason they beat SC not any other qb."
I'm sorry I read that and interpreted that as sole credit. I hope you can see where my confusion comes in.
I'm happy JG is improving and the Vols have multiple QB options. Not everyone agrees who the starting QB should be but at least our Vols are winning and they're back in the hunt for a bowl game!

Go Vols

This is the original post I was replying to, not yours:

"We will finish 4-8 with JG starting the rest of the year"

 

[PulaskiVolFan]

But he will throw JG out there a week after surgery and 6 screws in his wrist with a big cast looking like a fake hand. He could have hurt him bad when you are injured you overcompensate with another part of your body and he could have easily hurt his throwing hand.

7 screws in his hand, I don't think his wrist is injured. Evidently they didn't think he was at risk. Not sure how his nonthrowing hand was at risk because his other hand was wrapped up.

 

[rikberry31]

Seriously? Do you really believe that UAB has lines better than most SEC teams?

UAB's D is no joke. I watched that Fair boy eat our lunch all day. WM got whipped all day and I didn't see that against MissSt, Bubbas, UGA, or USC.

 

[PulaskiVolFan]

You’re wrong. Name me somebody who’s listed as a redshirt the season after exceeding the limit. And MEDICAL redshirt is a misnomer. You don’t get a redshirt OR a medical redshirt. If your redshirt is listed “for medical reasons”, then you’re ELIGIBLE to apply for an additional season of eligibility...like Brandon Kennedy will have possibly. If you don’t qualify for a redshirt...you can’t.

It's not wrong, he can apply for a medical RS at the end of THIS season. It's in the rulebook but I guess that doesn't mean anything to you at all. I've seen numerous athletes that were in our service apply for medical RS at the end of their seasons. There are strict guidelines and it's in question whether his situation meets those guidelines but if he doesn't play any the rest of the year then he will no doubt apply for a medical RS.

 

[Woodlawn VOL]

Not true about Shrout being better, he may have more potential but he's not a better option THIS season.

Shrout hasn't gotten enough reps to see if he can handle it. He handled usc fine for the time he was there, I think his leash has been way to short especially given JG's struggles at times. They tried to act like there is some big contrast between Maurer and JG in the beginning and that is simply not the case. I am sure Shrout probably has a ways to go on some things and had no problem with JG playing against UAB even more than Shrout, but I do think Shrout should have seen more reps in the 2nd half the game was fully in hand. But I always try to defer to the coaches, I am sure there was a reason he stayed with JG when we had a big lead in the 2nd half. GBO!

 

[Dudleys87]

True but if he wants that to work over the next 3 games he’s going to have to make some of it actually come true. Otherwise by Missouri they’ll know it’s probably bs and won’t gameplan for it.

I don’t think Maurer is completely out this season. I do think it’s an emergency type situation however.

 

[Dudleys87]

I think that's why he threw the ball on the JJs 2ND play vs. USC. He put that on film and now people have to be ready for it.

We are better playing 3 QBs than we were playing one. Just saying. We can't do it forever, but it is that much more for defenses to think about and he is building real depth at QB if you ask me.

It’s better that we do it. It’s a new wrinkle and all our QBs are capable of throwing good balls.

 

[Mccage]

Seriously? Do you really believe that UAB has lines better than most SEC teams? Or maybe JG holds the ball too long?

They have at least 2 down lineman that will play on Sunday.
JG does hold the ball too long on occasion but he is not responsible for every sack. When his blind side gets whipped there's not much he can do but as usual every time something goes wrong most on hear most can't wait to blame JG. He had a bad throw that resulted in taking points off the board, Had a dropped snap, but other than that thought he played OK. He sure as played better than a bunch of QBs did last saturday especially since he was playing with one hand.

 

[butchna]

It's not wrong, he can apply for a medical RS at the end of THIS season. It's in the rulebook but I guess that doesn't mean anything to you at all. I've seen numerous athletes that were in our service apply for medical RS at the end of their seasons. There are strict guidelines and it's in question whether his situation meets those guidelines but if he doesn't play any the rest of the year then he will no doubt apply for a medical RS.

Name some people that PLAYED and exceeded the limits that redshirted. Doesn’t happen. Maurer is going to be listed as a true sophomore next year and that will be his eligibility. If he redshirts any of the remaining three seasons it will have to be for medical reasons for him to APPLY for a sixth season. Justin Worley barely played his true freshman year and only a modicum more his sophomore season. No player in Vols history was more ravaged by injuries in his last two seasons...played too much and wasn’t eligible for a redshirt and wasn’t eligible to apply for a sixth. Now you and your hot air puffed up SERVICE trot out that RULE and give me some examples. Not waiting cuz I know you can’t.

 

[Woodlawn VOL]

It's not wrong, he can apply for a medical RS at the end of THIS season. It's in the rulebook but I guess that doesn't mean anything to you at all. I've seen numerous athletes that were in our service apply for medical RS at the end of their seasons. There are strict guidelines and it's in question whether his situation meets those guidelines but if he doesn't play any the rest of the year then he will no doubt apply for a medical RS.

Applying and getting it is 2 different things, he had his helmet on his head last game. I think Maurer is going to play again this year, some folks just want to find a reason for Maurer to not play. Not directing at you, but I have heard everything from he isn't tough enough to he shouldn't play he has had 2 concussions. Neither statement is true. Why do some seem to want to play favorites instead of going by what you see on the field. I don't give a damn who is qb as long as they are making plays and leading the offense. Our O-line seems to block better when Maurer or Shrout is in there, I don't know why and won't even give my thoughts on it. It is what it is, It is funny how some folks can find every flaw Shrout supposedly has in his limited amount of reps but can't see the flaws of others that have been here years. And yes, JG's improvement started after Maurer and Shrout started getting reps. He has played better and I admire his ability to keep his head up and fight through it. Having said that the coaches job is too put the person out there that can make the offense the most lethal, in them offenses interceptions will sometimes happen. But stats are misleading, give me a qb that throws for 350 3 td's and 2 interceptions over one that throws for 135 no td's and no interceptions. GBO!

 

[Vfl2407]

Seriously? Do you really believe that UAB has lines better than most SEC teams? Or maybe JG holds the ball too long?

JG holds the ball too long because he only will look at and wait for one receiver to come open. He has no field presence and can’t or won’t go thru his progressions and hates to run. But he does write his Mama and makes his bed each morning.

 

[RiverVol]

Maurer was not held out because of performance.

No coach for any team "owes" it to fans, media, etc, to tell everything exactly like it is (and when they do, it is calculated), so I don't need to believe CP 100% to like him as a coach, nor would I hold it against him for being wily with the use of his words.

Coaching and maybe medical staff know why Maurer did not play. All the rest is conjecture... and that's fantastic, because this is a forum for... conjecture.

 

[Behr]

A JG fanboy's position on Shrout vs JG doesn't worry me the least but
not seeing that Shrout is 10 times better than JG is what worries me about Pruitt.
Heck anybody is better than JG.

I can't put into words how stoopid that is.

 

[VolMarine1371]

Saying this morning that there is no way that Maurer was physically cleared to play vs UAB but then didn’t play.
Says he said that to protect Maurer and confuse the competition.
Says if he was healthy he would play ahead of someone with a cast on his hand.
Also said that CJP has no faith in Shrout.

Along with 7 screws in his hand and 6 days out of surgery!!!!

 

[BBaseball]

I can't put into words how stoopid that is.

Apparently you can't spell either.

 

[rocytop2624]

7 screws in his hand, I don't think his wrist is injured. Evidently they didn't think he was at risk. Not sure how his nonthrowing hand was at risk because his other hand was wrapped up.

Overcompensate your body. Its like a car out of line then your tires wear out. When he falls if not hurt it may just be a natural fall but when you have a injured wrist then it's in his head he is going to try not to land on it and instead of just falling he may use his throwing arm to catch his fall and then it's broken this happens all the time in training and sports and can't understand how you don't understand that.

 

[dcm3w]

Because no coach has ever lied to make teams prepare for every QB available.

Everyone knows Jennings isn’t going to throw the ball very often if at all. Pruitt says the opposite just to throw a different angle at them tho

That is correct. It's why Dana Holgorson was pissed at CJP for hiding his depth chart lol.

 

[Behr]

Apparently you can't spell either.

Obviously I don't no what your talking about.

 

[1TheCoach1]

I am pretty sure you can't dress players for games when they have not been cleared to play.