STOP with the Dormady needs to play stuff-

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k-town_king said:
Dobbs and JG were the two best passing the ball in fall camp according to practice reports. Dormady and Jones were three and four. Why would they pass better when they haven't shown it? That is just dumb.
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It's not just about who is the best passer. A QB needs to read defenses, look off safeties, find the open receiver and make decisions quickly. Unfortunately, Dobbs is not good at these aspects of the game.
 
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Switch 625 said:
It's not just about who is the best passer. A QB needs to read defenses, look off safeties, find the open receiver and make decisions quickly. Unfortunately, Dobbs is not good at these aspects of the game.
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You make a very good point. As a certain poster keeps trying to beat into the ground, Nate Peterman threw better (allegedly) in practice...turtled up when it counted. Dobbs has delivered in some games and been a weakness in others...but was the obvious choice ON THE FIELD. If JG can make receivers hands hurt AND execute the gameplan, he has a great chance to be the guy. If he needs to develop, he'll wait...extent of the science here.
 
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k-town_king said:
Ignore the practice reports all you want. All the people that cover the team said JG is the heir apparent. They all agree JG has a stronger arm and was more accurate. No the reports did not rank the qbs each practice. There were double digit practices where the writers said Dobbs and JG looked great with either no mention of the other two, or they mention that the others didn't look as good. There were literally two or three times they wrote that QD stood out. After fall was over all the articles that came out say they believe JG is the qb after Dobbs and Dormady will back up. Those are facts. Sorry if they don't fit some of yalls confirmation bias for Dormady.

Here is just one example.

Every SEC East team's QB succession plan

TENNESSEE

Starter: Joshua Dobbs, Senior
Backup: Quinten Dormady, Sophomore; Sheriron Jones, RS Freshman
Redshirt: Jarrett Guarantano, Freshman
2017 commitment: C.J. Lewis (3-star)

Overall: As long as Dobbs is healthy things will be fine in 2016. There are plenty of questions surrounding Dobbs’ ability to make tough throws, but he’s a strong competitor and leader with pluses that far outweigh the minuses.

If Dobbs gets hurt, the Volunteers have some depth. Dormady got into a couple of games last season and he’s a pocket passer. Jones redshirted, but he’s the mobile threat of the two backups.

Guarantano is the quarterback of the future and would probably benefit from a redshirt.
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One Guy's opinion and also doesn't say immediate future. Also doesn't state Dobbs is the best passer which if he is then we're screwed at Qb for the next few years. Here's an article with Butch Jones saying QD can make all the throws.

http://www.tennessean.com/story/spo...vols-name-quinten-dormady-backup-qb/89216592/

Now where are the 20 articles with Guarantano being the 2nd best QB? Cause when you google articles on both of them, Jarrett has more stuff show up about being in high school than practicing with the Vols and QD has way more articles about him looking good in practice. So by your logic wouldn't that make QD better lol. I hope either of the 3 QB's will be better than what we've had the last 4 years.

And also I don't think they would lie to a kid if they didn't think he had a good chance to start and don't say it's because they want to redshirt Guarantano. They have Sheriron and they aren't scared to make a true freshman the backup QB. Dormady was last year.
 
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volsfan2918 said:
One Guy's opinion and also doesn't say immediate future. Also doesn't state Dobbs is the best passer which if he is then we're screwed at Qb for the next few years. Here's an article with Butch Jones saying QD can make all the throws.

Vols name Quinten Dormady backup QB

Now where are the 20 articles with Guarantano being the 2nd best QB? Cause when you google articles on both of them, Jarrett has more stuff show up about being in high school than practicing with the Vols and QD has way more articles about him looking good in practice. So by your logic wouldn't that make QD better lol. I hope either of the 3 QB's will be better than what we've had the last 4 years.

And also I don't think they would lie to a kid if they didn't think he had a good chance to start and don't say it's because they want to redshirt Guarantano. They have Sheriron and they aren't scared to make a true freshman the backup QB. Dormady was last year.
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"But? ALL of them said it. All of the time!" :unsure:
 
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volsfan2918 said:
One Guy's opinion and also doesn't say immediate future. Also doesn't state Dobbs is the best passer which if he is then we're screwed at Qb for the next few years. Here's an article with Butch Jones saying QD can make all the throws.

Vols name Quinten Dormady backup QB

Now where are the 20 articles with Guarantano being the 2nd best QB? Cause when you google articles on both of them, Jarrett has more stuff show up about being in high school than practicing with the Vols and QD has way more articles about him looking good in practice. So by your logic wouldn't that make QD better lol. I hope either of the 3 QB's will be better than what we've had the last 4 years.

And also I don't think they would lie to a kid if they didn't think he had a good chance to start and don't say it's because they want to redshirt Guarantano. They have Sheriron and they aren't scared to make a true freshman the backup QB. Dormady was last year.
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Where are the articles from this fall camp with them both on campus saying that? There aren't many. He had some good ones last year. This fall it was all Dobbs and JG.

The article you posted said Dormady ,"made all the throws," in one practice. Not that he can consistently make all the throws like you claim Butch said. There is a difference.

The article you posted also makes it clear Dormady is the back up because of experience. Not that he was better or beat JG really. It also raves about JG and talks about how he pushed to backup. That was with Dormady having a year and a half head start and plans to redshirt JG. He was so good they still considered having him as the number 2.

"Tennessee coaches have praised Guarantano's arm strength and intelligence this fall, but it was Dormady's experience that allowed him to remain as the backup quarterback."

His experience "allowed" him to remain backup. That is all. No where did it say he matched or outperformed JG. He was just here and knows the o better. Plus it allowed JG a year to sit, study, and learn. It is another Peterman situation.

Find me even one article written since fall camp where someone says QD is the qb of the future. :popcorn:
 
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k-town_king said:
Where are the articles from this fall camp with them both on campus saying that? There aren't many. He had some good ones last year. This fall it was all Dobbs and JG.

The article you posted said Dormady ,"made all the throws," in one practice. Not that he can consistently make all the throws like you claim Butch said. There is a difference.

The article you posted also makes it clear Dormady is the back up because of experience. Not that he was better or beat JG really. It also raves about JG and talks about how he pushed to backup. That was with Dormady having a year and a half head start and plans to redshirt JG. He was so good they still considered having him as the number 2.

"Tennessee coaches have praised Guarantano's arm strength and intelligence this fall, but it was Dormady's experience that allowed him to remain as the backup quarterback."

His experience "allowed" him to remain backup. That is all. No where did it say he matched or outperformed JG. He was just here and knows the o better. Plus it allowed JG a year to sit, study, and learn. It is another Peterman situation.

Find me even one article written since fall camp where someone says QD is the qb of the future. :popcorn:
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The whole article was written about JG, huh? :lol: Also put CJ Lewis into next year's roster...that happening? :) Why do you need to reach so much...cramps?
 
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k-town_king said:
Where are the articles from this fall camp with them both on campus saying that? There aren't many. He had some good ones last year. This fall it was all Dobbs and JG.

The article you posted said Dormady ,"made all the throws," in one practice. Not that he can consistently make all the throws like you claim Butch said. There is a difference.

The article you posted also makes it clear Dormady is the back up because of experience. Not that he was better or beat JG really. It also raves about JG and talks about how he pushed to backup. That was with Dormady having a year and a half head start and plans to redshirt JG. He was so good they still considered having him as the number 2.

"Tennessee coaches have praised Guarantano's arm strength and intelligence this fall, but it was Dormady's experience that allowed him to remain as the backup quarterback."

His experience "allowed" him to remain backup. That is all. No where did it say he matched or outperformed JG. He was just here and knows the o better. Plus it allowed JG a year to sit, study, and learn. It is another Peterman situation.

Find me even one article written since fall camp where someone says QD is the qb of the future. :popcorn:
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Where does it specifically say JG outmatched him? You realize whenever there is a highly touted recruit and he looks as good as advertised they are going to rave about him. Peterman wasn't a placeholder they actually felt he could do something in this offense due to his high performance in practice but it just didn't translate to an actual game. You are still trying to spin it your way instead of seeing it for what it is. Nothing you said is based on facts just your perception.
 
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No matter who is better, Dormady is the backup as a matter of practicality. No coach in his right mind is going to burn a redshirt on a backup QB. JG could be obviously more talented and capable than Dormady, but if neither are starting, QD is the obvious choice for backup.

You have to understand that being recognized as the backup while the starter is healthy is different than actually taking the QB position should the starter become injured.

It's no different than when Dobbs was a freshman. If Worley would have stayed healthy all year, Peterman would have taken all the mop up snaps and Dobbs would be a junior right now. That fact had no impact on the who became the starter the next year.

If Dobbs went down in the first quarter of the TT game and was out for the year, Dormady gets the first shot at it, and if he's good enough to finish out the year in respectable fashion, he probably keeps it. I'm not sure CBJ would blow JG's redshirt after the Dobbs experience. It would depend on the talent gap between QD and JG and what was on the line.
 
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@k-townking

Here's an article saying Dormady is a better passer than Dobbs once again proving you wrong that Dobbs is the best passer on the team if we're going by practice reports.

Could Tennessee survive an injury to Josh Dobbs?

This article when he was a freshman stated he could eventually be the guy aka QB of the future.

Why Tennessee Fans Should Be Excited About Freshman QB Quinten Dormady | Bleacher Report

QB isn't just about having an amazing arm or Jamarcus Russell would have been the best of all time. Like a poster stated above its about reading defense's and knowing the playbook. We'll know who is better next year.
 
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volsfan2918 said:
@k-townking

Here's an article saying Dormady is a better passer than Dobbs once again proving you wrong that Dobbs is the best passer on the team.

Could Tennessee survive an injury to Josh Dobbs?

This article when he was a freshman stated he could eventually be the guy aka QB of the future.

Why Tennessee Fans Should Be Excited About Freshman QB Quinten Dormady | Bleacher Report

QB isn't just about having an amazing arm or Jamarcus Russell would have been the best of all time. Like a poster stated above its about reading defense's and knowing the playbook. We'll know who is better next year.
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"If Dobbs were to miss time, would the offense fall off? Of course, to an extent. Would it fall off tremendously? I don’t think it would."

They really got that one wrong.....
 
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I'm writing Peterman in as president because I think President Peterman sounds hilarious.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
"If Dobbs were to miss time, would the offense fall off? Of course, to an extent. Would it fall off tremendously? I don’t think it would."

They really got that one wrong.....
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If Dobbs is the best QB on our roster we are screwed for the foreseeable future.
 
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volsfan2918 said:
@k-townking

Here's an article saying Dormady is a better passer than Dobbs once again proving you wrong that Dobbs is the best passer on the team if we're going by practice reports.

Could Tennessee survive an injury to Josh Dobbs?

This article when he was a freshman stated he could eventually be the guy aka QB of the future.

Why Tennessee Fans Should Be Excited About Freshman QB Quinten Dormady | Bleacher Report

QB isn't just about having an amazing arm or Jamarcus Russell would have been the best of all time. Like a poster stated above its about reading defense's and knowing the playbook. We'll know who is better next year.
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I said Dormady had some good reports last fall. These are articles from before fall camp. This fall Dormady was rarely talked about. You still have not proven Dormady did better THIS FALL. Dobbs improved and JG came in. Since then Dormady has been the odd man out. Show me anything after fall camp about Dormady being a better passer than Dobbs or the starter after Dobbs. Plenty of talk about Dobbs having great practices and throwing really well and plenty of talk about JG being the future.
 
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k-town_king said:
I said Dormady had some good reports last fall. These are articles from before fall camp. This fall Dormady was rarely talked about. You still have not proven Dormady did better THIS FALL. Dobbs improved and JG came in. Since then Dormady has been the odd man out. Show me anything after fall camp about Dormady being a better passer than Dobbs or the starter after Dobbs. Plenty of talk about Dobbs having great practices and throwing really well and plenty of talk about JG being the future.
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If there's "plenty" you should be able to show at least a few examples...start with posting ONE. :)
 
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volsfan2918 said:
One Guy's opinion and also doesn't say immediate future. Also doesn't state Dobbs is the best passer which if he is then we're screwed at Qb for the next few years. Here's an article with Butch Jones saying QD can make all the throws.

http://www.tennessean.com/story/spo...vols-name-quinten-dormady-backup-qb/89216592/

Now where are the 20 articles with Guarantano being the 2nd best QB? Cause when you google articles on both of them, Jarrett has more stuff show up about being in high school than practicing with the Vols and QD has way more articles about him looking good in practice. So by your logic wouldn't that make QD better lol. I hope either of the 3 QB's will be better than what we've had the last 4 years.

And also I don't think they would lie to a kid if they didn't think he had a good chance to start and don't say it's because they want to redshirt Guarantano. They have Sheriron and they aren't scared to make a true freshman the backup QB. Dormady was last year.
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The same article says, Tennessee coaches have praised Guarantano's arm strength and intelligence this fall, but it was Dormady's experience that allowed him to remain as the backup quarterback

So if they came in at the same time JG would have been better...Right?
 
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johnrlansford said:
The same article says, Tennessee coaches have praised Guarantano's arm strength and intelligence this fall, but it was Dormady's experience that allowed him to remain as the backup quarterback

So if they came in at the same time JG would have been better...Right?
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Go ahead. Reality hasn't been an impediment to you before. :)
 
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Would be nice if, you know, we could actually blow someone out so that we can see what Dormady can do in a game.
 
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k-town_king said:
I said Dormady had some good reports last fall. These are articles from before fall camp. This fall Dormady was rarely talked about. You still have not proven Dormady did better THIS FALL. Dobbs improved and JG came in. Since then Dormady has been the odd man out. Show me anything after fall camp about Dormady being a better passer than Dobbs or the starter after Dobbs. Plenty of talk about Dobbs having great practices and throwing really well and plenty of talk about JG being the future.
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First article was late summer and yes the second was last year my bad on that one. No article has said Dobbs is the best passer and none have said JG was second best. Most from the fall have said Dobbs is improving his consistency which first of all should not be a problem for a senior QB. If you think he is the best passer we are in for some terrible QB play for years to come. If you think Dobbs is a good passer you might need to go see an eye doctor. He's shown flashes but has had way more terrible games than great ones. I respect what he has done and the big plays he's made but he has not shown he is a consistently good passer.
 
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johnrlansford said:
The same article says, Tennessee coaches have praised Guarantano's arm strength and intelligence this fall, but it was Dormady's experience that allowed him to remain as the backup quarterback

So if they came in at the same time JG would have been better...Right?
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It doesn't say that you're connecting dots that aren't there. Playing QB is more than just arm talent. Don't get me wrong would love to see JG be an absolutely amazing QB but it's just annoying to see people make stuff up, spin it for their weird obsession of a young man and count other kids out instead of rooting for the best one to play.

Anyways would really like to see what the other kids can do. I've tried to root for Dobbs but he puts me through a roller coaster of emotions. Looked good as a freshman at the end of the Bama game then looked terrible the rest of the year. Looked good in the same game the next year then was wildly inconsistent from then until now with some flashes. Doubt we'll see someone else this year unless we can get up on a team by a lot which probably won't happen based off of prior games this year.
 
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