Steve Kiner's thoughts on AD, Butch

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volmoon said:
So, who are the non-UT leaders to bring UT success?
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Well, there is.... And what about... Or maybe...nope. Got nothin'.

Flip a dang coin already. Hart is still on the clock for a bit so, bring the new guy in and let him do a "ride along" for a couple months to familiarize him with the job and lets move on down the road.
 
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peppervol said:
OK, professor, "...give some of us a lesson." You state your opinions like they're absolute, behind the scenes facts in stone. How the hell are you so privy to such, pray tell? Seriously, please share with us your unquestionable source(s). We are all ears....
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Several of you asking me variations of the same question, and here's my answer: the proof will be in the pudding. He will not be blackburn's #2 if he is hired. If fulmer is hired, he will not permit his closest rival for the job to be his #2 (and DB won't want that either).

So basically, wait and see. Simple.
 
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volmoon said:
Yep firing UT's only natty football coach in 50 years has proven to be a high performance decision itself.
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Fulmer in his final ten years combined for as many SEC titles as the combination of Kiffin, Dooley, and Butch have combined for in eight.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Fulmer in his final ten years combined for as many SEC titles as the combination of Kiffin, Dooley, and Butch have combined for in eight.
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Yeah but he played for two more than all of them too. Just saying
 
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VOLfrombama said:
I'm just going to keep posting this article until everyone stops throwing the bammer's BS story onto Phil.

Judge's book goes behind the scenes of Cottrell case | AL.com

"While Cottrell attorney Tommy Gallion painted University of Tennessee boosters and former Vols coach Phillip Fulmer as grand conspirators in a plan to take down Alabama, Wilson notes that it was another SEC rival that alerted the NCAA about Means' recruitment."

FWIW, Wilson is a Bama alum.
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Yeah it was Steve Spurrier, but having said that they deserved the death penalty back then! I hate Alabama! Alabama hates Phil Fulmer, so give me Fulmer for AD!
 
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JonGrudensAgent said:
Oh look, another name on the screen throwing out insults instead of a shred of intelligent conversation.

Glad I made enough of an impression on you to waste your time posting that meme.

Maybe you'll actually retain some knowledge one of these days.
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Yep..the same sort of impression you always make. :whistling:
 
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tvolsfan said:
Three more. But still, same hardware, and he was trending down in a hurry.
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Forgot about 01.... and I was there. Lol.

I think 01-04 he was good. I had no issues with him remaining HC.

After that it got dicey quick
 
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Roustabout said:
He tackled people good 40 years ago. Therefore hos opinion is truth.

I wish people could have heard Dale Jones dog cuss Fulmer the way I heard. I guess that would carry as much weight.
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Yes those was the days cocaine Tony and the no name defense and a azz kicking to Miami on Jan. 1 1986.:rock:
 
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jakez4ut said:
Forgot about 01.... and I was there. Lol.

I think 01-04 he was good. I had no issues with him remaining HC.

After that it got dicey quick
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No question.

Looking back, I wish he was gone after 2005. Not super realistic with a new AD (that Phil helped hire) and conservative boosters/fans, but it would have been better in the long run. Bringing him back after 2008 would have been malpractice.
 
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tvolsfan said:
No question.

Looking back, I wish he was gone after 2005. Not super realistic with a new AD (that Phil helped hire) and conservative boosters/fans, but it would have been better in the long run. Bringing him back after 2008 would have been malpractice.
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oh, i remember the threads back then. it was brutal. in 05, i was actually fine with keeping him. it was his first bad season in 13 years. i didn't think he was doing a good job, but i did think he had done plenty to earn the chance to fix it.

he didn't. and the worst thing that probably happened, and it's hard to say this now, was winning the East in 07. that said, i still didn't like they way they handled the firing/resignation in 08. i did think it was time for change, but that wasn't the way to go out for him.

but i understood those that said "serves him right for how he got the job in the first place...karma is a b***h".
 
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jakez4ut said:
oh, i remember the threads back then. it was brutal. in 05, i was actually fine with keeping him. it was his first bad season in 13 years. i didn't think he was doing a good job, but i did think he had done plenty to earn the chance to fix it.

he didn't. and the worst thing that probably happened, and it's hard to say this now, was winning the East in 07. that said, i still didn't like they way they handled the firing/resignation in 08. i did think it was time for change, but that wasn't the way to go out for him.

but i understood those that said "serves him right for how he got the job in the first place...karma is a b***h".
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But he had nothing to do with that, he was totally innocent of any wrongdoing. Lol.
 
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UT Hill Man said:
Fulmer has distinguished himself throughout his career in Collegiate athletics. And the parallel between Doug Dickey and Fulmer cannot be overstated. Dickey, a former Vol coach hired Fulmer, who led us to the '98 Title.

Dickey knew UT like few people as a former coach, like Fulmer. And no one is more prepared to make the important hires (and fires) than Fulmer. And no one care's more about the football program.

If Jones isn't the guy I have full confidence in Phil Fulmer to find a coach who can take us to heights only he was able to attain since the days of Neyland.
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Dickey was a great AD for us, no doubt. I'd take another like him in a heartbeat.

How do you feel about Fulmers history of hiring/firing assistant coaches and player accountability?

I felt like these were areas in which Fulmer underperformed, and unfortunately personal decisions and people management (expectations / accountability) are very important in an AD.
 
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UT Hill Man said:
I just know the football program will be taken care of if Fulmer is AD. I trust Phil more than anyone.
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I couldn't agree more. I tried to come up with anyone else that felt the same about with his experience and I came up with nobody. I trust Johnny Majors and Al Wilson.
 
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walkenvol said:
You guys suck and Kiner has forgotten more about football than you will ever know.
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Yeah this is exactly why I was laughing so hard at... some of these responses....talk about credentials....most of these posters probably never even attended a high school game much less have a fleeting clue what an AD does on a daily basis....really humorous...be like me commenting on brain surgery by Dr. Ben Carson...Trust me it would be comical...
 
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LA vol7 said:
Yeah it was Steve Spurrier, but having said that they deserved the death penalty back then! I hate Alabama! Alabama hates Phil Fulmer, so give me Fulmer for AD!
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According to Wilson's book and statements in the case from the NCAA, it was Arkansas. So based on that info it was Houston Nutt, his staff, and/or Ark Boosters.
 
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JoeVols said:
Several of you asking me variations of the same question, and here's my answer: the proof will be in the pudding. He will not be blackburn's #2 if he is hired. If fulmer is hired, he will not permit his closest rival for the job to be his #2 (and DB won't want that either).

So basically, wait and see. Simple.
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So, as most of us suspected all along, your absolutes are nothing more than your opinions. Thank you for clearing that up. I, for one, was going to order my crystal ball from the same source that you ordered yours.
 
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