Starting to look like a SEC team again

#30
#30
Hope Middleton does not look like Tarzan and play like Jane like he did in high school.
 
#31
#31
McKenzie, Tuttle, Kongbo et. al. weren't midgets. The problem with Jones wasn't recruiting or that he was a horrible X and O guy. He simply lost his team.
It was both. Jones brought in some big guys but they couldn’t play, as evidenced by the guys you mentioned, KMac and Kongbo. But he also brought in smaller, undersized guys/projects that made no sense. Guys like Niehaus, Tatum and Brooks, each of whom looked like TEs at best when they got here and needed 50-60 pounds of weight be competitive as an OL in the SEC.

He also brought in some smaller DBs that couldn’t play in this league and either transferred or never saw the field here. Same goes for some of the LBs.
 
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#34
Beat UF, beat UGA twice, had a lead on Bama late in the 4th quarter in Tuscaloosa. The team fell apart at the end of his time here and he has been a jerk ever since, but stop with this revisionist history that he was Dooley 2.0

The reason why Dooley 2.0 is an appropriate claim is the state of the level of talent the program had at the time of his dismissal.

No one drafted this past season. Losing 3 in a row to Vandy, that’s a pretty low place to leave a program in.

Say what you will about Zook, Muschamp, and even McElwain, but they didn’t leave the program in a position where it was a total and complete rebuild to get back to respectability.

One of the things that has been astonishing about the failure of Kiffin, Dooley and Jones, is that none of them left it better than when they found it.
 
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He should have beaten Florida a minimum of three times. They were terrible his entire run. The SEC East in general was bad while he was here. He has the worst record against freaking Vanderbilt of any coach in the last 100 years.

Honestly, you put him at Missouri as OC last year and there’s a pretty decent chance we win that game.
Wish we could get him as HC at Bama.
 
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The reason why Dooley 2.0 is an appropriate claim is the state of the level of talent the program had at the time of his dismissal.

No one drafted this past season. Losing 3 in a row to Vandy, that’s a pretty low place to leave a program in.

Say what you will about Zook, Muschamp, and even McElwain, but they didn’t leave the program in a position where it was a total and complete rebuild to get back to respectability.

One of the things that has been astonishing about the failure of Kiffin, Dooley and Jones, is that none of them left it better than when they found it.
It’s only astonishing to you because you root for a university who actually cares about winning... Florida would have absolutely never even looked twice at any of those idiots. The real joke is our administration and some of the fans that have defended this garbage for 10 plus years, the sooner they leave the better UT will be for it.
 
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#42
It was both. Jones brought in some big guys but they couldn’t play, as evidenced by the guys you mentioned, KMac and Kongbo. But he also brought in smaller, undersized guys/projects that made no sense. Guys like Niehaus, Tatum and Brooks, each of whom looked like TEs at best when they got here and needed 50-60 pounds of weight be competitive as an OL in the SEC.

He also brought in some smaller DBs that couldn’t play in this league and either transferred or never saw the field here. Same goes for some of the LBs.

You might could justify signing guys like Niehaus & Tatum if Tennessee was running a Nebraska-type strength but jones didn’t run a s&c program that emphasized bulk & strength. Horrible fit for these young men.
 
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#43
The reason why Dooley 2.0 is an appropriate claim is the state of the level of talent the program had at the time of his dismissal.

No one drafted this past season. Losing 3 in a row to Vandy, that’s a pretty low place to leave a program in.

Say what you will about Zook, Muschamp, and even McElwain, but they didn’t leave the program in a position where it was a total and complete rebuild to get back to respectability.

One of the things that has been astonishing about the failure of Kiffin, Dooley and Jones, is that none of them left it better than when they found it.
According to Kiffin he did. He didn’t.
 
#44
#44
He should have beaten Florida a minimum of three times. They were terrible his entire run. The SEC East in general was bad while he was here. He has the worst record against freaking Vanderbilt of any coach in the last 100 years.

Honestly, you put him at Missouri as OC last year and there’s a pretty decent chance we win that game.

UF went 10-2 in 2015. We played them before they lost Greer. To say that was a terrible team with Greer is just flat out wrong.
 
#45
#45
Beat UF, beat UGA twice, had a lead on Bama late in the 4th quarter in Tuscaloosa. The team fell apart at the end of his time here and he has been a jerk ever since, but stop with this revisionist history that he was Dooley 2.0

Butch don’t you have some analyst work you are supposed to be doing for you Daddy right now?
 
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#47
#47
UF went 10-2 in 2015. We played them before they lost Greer. To say that was a terrible team with Greer is just flat out wrong.
They lost four games. Got lucky to beat Kentucky the week before us. They played a lot of crappy teams and beat a good Ole Miss team. They were nothing special. We had the talent in place to wipe them off the field.
 
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#48
You might could justify signing guys like Niehaus & Tatum if Tennessee was running a Nebraska-type strength but jones didn’t run a s&c program that emphasized bulk & strength. Horrible fit for these young men.
Tatum is just now looking the part. Hope that translates into playing the part better.
 
#49
#49
Tatum is just now looking the part. Hope that translates into playing the part better.
He doesn’t seem like the kind of guy that will be natural at that weight. Probably a matter of time before Wright takes over.
 

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