Starters That Kiffin Recruited

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utgibbs said:
You do realize Creer would be starting here?
(all respect to Poole - I like him.)
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NO he wouldn't.

Now, name the players Kiffin ran off who are contributing heavily at BCS schools.

I have never seen anyone lie so quickly as you will in an effort to make an absurd claim. You have to be joking with your posts. You simply make too many unsubstantiated claims and have no evidence to support them. I have been around a lot of BSers in my time, but you take the cake. Like I said, you make so many absurd claims and tell so many outright lies, you have to be joking.
 
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#504
utgibbs said:
You realize they were a year older and more experienced in 2009, don'tcha?

Do y'all really know how ridiculous you look?
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So you admit that, in the middle of the last decade, Fulmer didn't do a good enough job evaluating talent, recruiting it, and coaching it to succeed in the SEC in 2008?
 
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#506
utgibbs said:
What do y'all do? Smoke a crack pipe before posting?

Fulmer put a lot of kids in the pros.Funny thing - I said, even when Crompdaddy was at his most gawdawful, he would get drafted. He has the NFL toolkit, and there is nothing you can do to teach that. Crompdaddy was always going to get drafted.

Hardesty would have started under Fulmer or Kiffin. Get a clue!!!
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I can back up my claims with facts. You can't come close to doing it.

Yes, Fulmer did put a lot of guys in the NFL. One reason why he was no more than just an average head coach. For about 15 years, UT was always in the top three of the number of players on opening day NFL rosters. With that kind of talent, you think we would have been nationally relevant more often. In 16 seasons, we finished in the final top 10 four times. Not too good with all that talent.

And no, Crompton was not always going to get drafted. The scouts I talked to said he was nowhere on the radar to getting drafted until the turnaround at mid-season which gave him confidence going into the combine, which BTW, he wasn't even going to be invited to if not for the turnaround at mid-season

Hardesty would have been like Foster had Fulmer been retained
 
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BelAirVol said:
I can back up my claims with facts. You can't come close to doing it.

Yes, Fulmer did put a lot of guys in the NFL. One reason why he was no more than just an average head coach. For about 15 years, UT was always in the top three of the number of players on opening day NFL rosters. With that kind of talent, you think we would have been nationally relevant more often. In 16 seasons, we finished in the final top 10 four times. Not too good with all that talent.

And no, Crompton was not always going to get drafted. The scouts I talked to said he was nowhere on the radar to getting drafted until the turnaround at mid-season which gave him confidence going into the combine, which BTW, he wasn't even going to be invited to if not for the turnaround at mid-season

Hardesty would have been like Foster had Fulmer been retained
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An undrafted NFL starter?
 
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BelAirVol said:
I can back up my claims with facts. You can't come close to doing it.

Yes, Fulmer did put a lot of guys in the NFL. One reason why he was no more than just an average head coach. For about 15 years, UT was always in the top three of the number of players on opening day NFL rosters. With that kind of talent, you think we would have been nationally relevant more often. In 16 seasons, we finished in the final top 10 four times. Not too good with all that talent.

And no, Crompton was not always going to get drafted. The scouts I talked to said he was nowhere on the radar to getting drafted until the turnaround at mid-season which gave him confidence going into the combine, which BTW, he wasn't even going to be invited to if not for the turnaround at mid-season

Hardesty would have been like Foster had Fulmer been retained
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I agree with you on most, but I'm positive Tennessee finished in the top 10 more than 4 times during Fulmer's tenure.
 
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Plus, I like how his senior year, the year he was trying to set the record for yards in a career, Fulmer only gave him the rock 131 times.
 
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BelAirVol said:
I didn't articulate well enough. Had Fulmer been retained as coach, Hardesty's route to the NFL would have been as a free agent vs being drafted
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I was just highlighting how Fulmer's coaching led players to be skipped 250 times, then become a starter.
 
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Muschump said:
I'm sure you were outraged.
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Outraged that our senior RB (who was being projected as a 2nd rounder) was 700 yards from setting the school record in front of my eyes, had 70 of his carries taken away by Lennon Creer?

Yeah. A little.
 
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crusse10 said:
Plus, I like how his senior year, the year he was trying to set the record for yards in a career, Fulmer only gave him the rock 131 times.
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Muschump said:
I'm sure you were outraged.
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That would have been Cutcliffe, I believe. The Cutcliffe responsible for Fulmer's success, from what I understand.

I'm sure crusse10 was among the "he sucks and is a fumbler" crowd who entertained us with their footballing insight and lore at the time.

How the real world outside the back door gives them the biyotch slap. It's great to see.
 
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crusse10 said:
Outraged that our senior RB (who was being projected as a 2nd rounder) was 700 yards from setting the school record in front of my eyes, had 70 of his carries taken away by Lennon Creer?

Yeah. A little.
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Like, when Foster was injured....

BTW, Creer's numbers are EXACTLY Hardesty's numbers that year, and EXACTLY against same competition.

Or, do you want me to give you the RWOtBD biyotch slap on that one too? I've already delivered it to kpt in the past on this very issue.
 
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utgibbs said:
That would have been Cutcliffe, I believe. The Cutcliffe responsible for Fulmer's success, from what I understand.

I'm sure crusse10 was among the "he sucks and is a fumbler" crowd who entertained us with their footballing insight and lore at the time.

How the real world outside the back door gives them the biyotch slap. It's great to see.
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I'll let you utilize the search feature, then kindly shut the hell up.
 
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tvolsfan said:
It didn't make Crompton awesome. It was impressive that the staff got a qb that was awful for the first 4.5 years of his career drafted.

That in no way translates to Coleman being able to perform at the SEC level.
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Wow. The extent that y'all have to twist yourself to defend your ideology (which is indefensible) actually does shock me sometimes.

Are you really saying the SEC is better than the NFL?

Are you really saying that?

Why was it I knew Crompton was going to get drafted DESPITE his performances as a Vol?
 
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