Stability

[PaVolsfn]

Coaching stability in the SEC is simply non existant. There are 6 of 12 head coaches with two years or less at there current school. 9 of 24 coordinator positions are filled by new hires in the past month. If my math is correct theres a grand total of 9 coordinators in the SEC who've been at there current school more that two seasons and that includes CJC. Stability would be great and could help in recruiting, but every kid interested in the SEC should realize the guy recruiting him, the coordinator currently at that school and probably the head coach wont be there when they graduate. That being said Derek Dooley should stay because he was left with nothing to work with. If we could all quit talking about firing him and if the AD would actually come out and say hes my coach Im behind him 100% for the length of his contract (whether true or not) we could recruit better and then possibly judge CDD.

 

[daj2576]

As of our boal game, we had 59 kids on scholarship, the lowest number of any team in the country not on NCAA probation, and obviously the lowest in the SEC. We had 11 kids on scholly leave since Muschamp was named coach in January.

He is implementing a power running game with recruits/players who were brough in for their speed in the spread. We don't have any big backs on our roster, or the OL we need to develop the power running game.

Our recruiting was ok from a class rankings standpoint, but when those kids leave, and your depth disappears, it means nothing. We had too many kids leave in too short a period under Meyer's last few years and Muschamp's first..........making it very difficult to implement a new system. I think of our 2010 class that was ranked #1, half of the kids are gone.

That's why he needs another 2 years imo.

Interesting points. I don't follow Gator football much so I don't research the comings and goings. I guess my question still is "why did these kids leave"? Are you saying it was coaching turn over itself, or were they pushed out the door by the new coaching staff who wants to install a different system?

On the other hand, you don't have to explain to a Vol what happens when kids leave.. :ermm:

 

[2ironVol]

When coaches are leaving for jobs that aren't promotions, that's jumping ship.

Regardless if it was to get closer to home?

Where and when were you a coach at this level or higher?

 

[Wylo]

The negative is you can't go on the recruiting trail and tell kids "Life is good at Tennessee" when all they have to do is look up and see am 11-14 record with Dooley and 5-6 coaches have jumped ship in less than 6 weeks.

I'm trying to figure out how you see those changes as "positive". People might say "well, we improved the staffm, recruiting, etc.........." but it doesn't look that way on the outside. it looks like rats fleeing a ship, even if I don't believe it and that might not be the case.

Your problem here isn't reality, it's perception of the program.

You have to forgive the folks around here with blinders on. They like to believe that all of the current events are just happy random acts. This program is a joke right now. It is sad, but true.

ALL IS WELL!!! Never mind the obvious blunders....

 

[slobberknocker]

Biggest troll on VN. I have him ignored, fortunately. If everyone else would do the same, we wouldn't have a 125 post thread of garbage.

That is all :hi:

My ignore list keeps growing by the minute, hope there's no limit like blocking calls on my phone.

 

[FearlessFreep]

Easier to simply brand someone a 'troll' than deal with the realities.

You've taken the blue pill.

 

[daj2576]

At best, this so called house cleaning (I've not seen anyone fired either), gives Dooley one more year using the argument that he will need another year to implement the systems of these new coaches.

At first blush, not being fired is a good thing:
1) I would presume that most of these coaches have a contract that requires a buy out if fired, that would avoid that little problem.
2)It shows that UT is a place that doesn't force coaches out constantly. To other coaches who might one day be researching coming to coach here, that could be a huge plus. For instance, if UT fired a bunch of coaches every year THAT would do more to signal instability than coaches moving on.

I can't deny the argument that coaches leaving is certainly a sign of instability, but if it is going to happen, the best way is to have them leave on their own.

The key is to upgrade those losses with other coaches who implement similar systems and perhaps do it a bit better. The problem really comes when systems are changed at every coaching replacement. I think the systems will largely stay in tact. That is more important.

Picture it like this: If you were taking college level physics from a graduate assistant, would you be really upset if they replaced that professor with Stephen Hawking? Probably not, you are learning the same thing from a better professor. Sure things might change, but the experience would probably improve. On the other hand, if you were taking college Physics from Stephen Hawking and he is replaced by say a religious studies graduate assistant, that would be a huge jump (different subject, different skill sets). I hope that makes the point more clear.

 

[WallyBalls]

not spinning anything. Given a choice, i would have rather seen wilcox, sirmon, and lt still on the staff though i am not disappointed with the css hire.

I am ambivalent about russell. He didn't exactly tear it up at ut and if he's looking for job security then he definitely went to the wrong place. Read that however you like.

Hiestand might consider nd a step up for him personally. But i would be surprised if his review were completely positive and didn't include some pretty firm improvement goals.

Call it whatever you want but baggett's departure did not appear to be simply because he wanted to leave.

There is just as much direct proof for the thing you said he did not do as the thing you assert. You are either a troll or someone so completely blinded by bias that you can no longer reason.



No. Not really. You have made a bunch of assumptions based on pretty much nothing but your own subjective biases. If you simply wanted ut to get back to winning then you wouldn't jump to conclusions and certainly wouldn't rip the current hc like you do in public.

You have now tied your ego to his failure. You won't be satisfied with anything else.

I genuinely do not care who the hc is. Right now and for at least '12, it is dooley. The best thing fans interested in nothing but getting "back to winning football games" can do is support him and whoever he and hart hire. We talk him down and he fails... Then he's gone. We support him and he fails... He's gone.

The difference? We support him then we don't discourage recruits and their friends/family that lurk here... And we convince the next hc that ut has a faithful fanbase that will support him through tough times. We don't support him then it could hurt recruiting and could be a factor in a great hc candidate saying "no thanks" because they might not get a legitimate shot at succeeding.

FLAWLESS Victory.

 

[tenn fever]

I like the Florida sucks comment

 

[Vol Main]

Don't want to make something too big out of it. But I thought Dooley was biting his toenails when he ended the statement about all the changes by saying, this is Tennessee.

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

The only consistency is that the same guy has been in charge two years in a row . . . which sadly is a step forward for us.

One forward and two back.