Source inside says CBP is gone. (rumor)

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Fingers said:
Maybe not, but they are pretty impressive in the realm of Tennessee basketball.
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A favorable draw to an Elite Eight is not something to keep him at all costs. Sadly that's a battle cry around these parts.
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JZVOL said:
Am I saying something that's not true? Did I bash BP?
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It is true. And your comment leads me to believe you think Pearl's on court success will be easily duplicated. Did I misinterpret your comment?
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StepCross said:
No one has the right to the True Fan argument, because it's a well-known classic logical fallacy (ad hominem).
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If it's true, it's true. Like it or not, there are a ton of folks around here who didn't follow UT basketball before Pearl. Coincidentally, they are the loudest segment of the "program be damned, I am standing behind Pearl" crowd.
 
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NYYVol said:
A favorable draw to an Elite Eight is not something to keep him at all costs. Sadly that's a battle cry around these parts.
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I'm not making the case that TN should keep him. In fact, I'm not sure it's wise to do so.
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Fingers said:
I'm not making the case that TN should keep him. In fact, I'm not sure it's wise to do so.
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It's also not wise to see the chances of getting a coach to replicate and expand Pearl's successes as slim.
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Fingers said:
It is true. And your comment leads me to believe you think Pearl's on court success will be easily duplicated. Did I misinterpret your comment?
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Do I think there are plenty of coaches UT could hire that could win one SEC title in six years? Yes.

The Elite 8 run was fantastic and BP did a great job.
 
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NYYVol said:
A favorable draw to an Elite Eight is not something to keep him at all costs. Sadly that's a battle cry around these parts.
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Also, there is no need to diminish his Elite Eight by labeling it a favorable draw (which it was). The draw is a crucial component to tournament success every year for all teams.
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JZVOL said:
Do I think there are plenty of coaches UT could hire that could win one SEC title in six years? Yes.

The Elite 8 run was fantastic and BP did a great job.
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Not asking about could. Do you think, if Pearl is fired, Tennessee WILL hire a coach who WILL have as much or more success on the court as Bruce Pearl?
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I guess I just don't see Pearl as being as great of coach as many do. I think he's a very good coach, but just not great. I just think he's more replacable than many do.
 
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emainvol said:
If it's true, it's true. Like it or not, there are a ton of folks around here who didn't follow UT basketball before Pearl. Coincidentally, they are the loudest segment of the "program be damned, I am standing behind Pearl" crowd.
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I don't think that's true. The ones most reluctant to let Pearl go are the ones who suffered through the 90's, but don't remember success from 30 years ago.

Be that as it may, we're both guessing; and it's STILL a fallacy to say someone is "not a true fan" based on where they sit on the Pearl fence.
 
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Fingers said:
Not asking about could. Do you think, if Pearl is fired, Tennessee WILL hire a coach who WILL have as much or more success on the court as Bruce Pearl?
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There's no guarantee. I'll be the first to admit that. I am sure Michigan never thought RichRod would be gone after three years when he was hired. Sometimes it just doesn't work out.

Do I think we will try much harder to find a coach that can replicate Pearl's success (or heaven forbid do more) than Dickey did? Absolutely.
 
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Fingers said:
Not asking about could. Do you think, if Pearl is fired, Tennessee WILL hire a coach who WILL have as much or more success on the court as Bruce Pearl?
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How is that remotely possible for me to answer?
 
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Fingers said:
Also, there is no need to diminish his Elite Eight by labeling it a favorable draw (which it was). The draw is a crucial component to tournament success every year for all teams.
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Calling a spade a spade. I've given him props for making history here. But the truth is the truth.
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StepCross said:
I don't think that's true. The ones most reluctant to let Pearl go are the ones who suffered through the 90's, but don't remember success from 30 years ago.

Be that as it may, we're both guessing; and it's STILL a fallacy to say someone is "not a true fan" based on where they sit on the Pearl fence.
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It has nothing to do with where they sit on the Pearl fence, it's the stuff like "Bruce Pearl is UT basketball" and "we can't possibly get a good coach, and that will sure teach all you Pearl haters." They sound more like Bruce Pearl fans than UT fans to me.
 
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Fingers said:
Not asking about could. Do you think, if Pearl is fired, Tennessee WILL hire a coach who WILL have as much or more success on the court as Bruce Pearl?
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Don't be ridculous. There is no guarantee. The resources are here to be successful, and I seriously doubt we would go the cheap route when hiring a new coach. Over 2 mil could get you a damn good coach.
 
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NYYVol said:
How much time do you spend in TBA during basketball season?

Sure UT has had some failures. But what chaps most asses is the folks pretending Pearl is the Founding Father of UT Bball.
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See, I guess that's just where I think this view is extreme. With the success he's had, many 'bandwagoners' appreciate what Pearl has accomplished and probably follow the program more closely than ever. They've witnessed more wins, more consecutive tourney appearances (and wins), and a much better schedule than any time since Don DeVoe or Ray Mears. (I would argue Mears, but that's probably a topic for another thread). Like Gary Parrish said, Pearl has taken Tennessee to a level of national relevance it has never seen (in a very long time at least).

I don't think they believe basketball didn't exist before Pearl, they just remember a lot more failure than success.
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Freak said:
See, I guess that's just where I think this view is extreme. With the success he's had, many 'bandwagoners' appreciate what Pearl has accomplished and probably follow the program more closely than ever. They've witnessed more wins, more consecutive tourney appearances (and wins), and a much better schedule than any time since Don DeVoe or Ray Mears. (I would argue Mears, but that's probably a topic for another thread). Like Gary Parrish said, Pearl has taken Tennessee to a level of national relevance it has never seen (in a very long time at least).

I don't think they believe basketball didn't exist before Pearl, they just remember a lot more failure than success.
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That's fine until they start in with this "hater" crap.
 
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Freak said:
See, I guess that's just where I think this view is extreme. With the success he's had, many 'bandwagoners' appreciate what Pearl has accomplished and probably follow the program more closely than ever. They've witnessed more wins, more consecutive tourney appearances (and wins), and a much better schedule than any time since Don DeVoe or Ray Mears. (I would argue Mears, but that's probably a topic for another thread). Like Gary Parrish said, Pearl has taken Tennessee to a level of national relevance it has never seen (in a very long time at least).

I don't think they believe basketball didn't exist before Pearl, they just remember a lot more failure than success.
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Freak said:
See, I guess that's just where I think this view is extreme. With the success he's had, many 'bandwagoners' appreciate what Pearl has accomplished and probably follow the program more closely than ever. They've witnessed more wins, more consecutive tourney appearances (and wins), and a much better schedule than any time since Don DeVoe or Ray Mears. (I would argue Mears, but that's probably a topic for another thread). Like Gary Parrish said, Pearl has taken Tennessee to a level of national relevance it has never seen (in a very long time at least).

I don't think they believe basketball didn't exist before Pearl, they just remember a lot more failure than success.
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Yet many at any bad word towards Pearl make the "he is UT bball" cry that gets under my skin more than ever. I do admit that I just flat out don't like the guy and never have. But I do see your point and I do see some of those fans. The ones that belittle the program by saying he's the godfather can follow him to his next stop or just jump off the top of TBA as far as I'm concerned.
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