Source inside says CBP is gone. (rumor)

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BPV,

It's the "book it" at the end that really bothers me. Spit out what you want to say or have heard and wish to pass along the line, that is fine. I have no issue with that. Its when people say to take their word as the gospel that makes me question it even more. If you are confident in the info you know, is saying it not enough? Must someone feel the need to end their statement with the phrase, "book it?"

Rudy, if everything you mentioned goes down, this program gets the death penalty. I don't see any way on God's green earth that all those penalties are imposed... no effin way we get hit that hard
 
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DocVol said:
From my source within the athletic department:

"Bruce Pearl will not return as the coach of the UT Men's Basketball team next season."

"The NCAA WILL suspend Bruce Pearl for one year and UT will lose scholarships in addition to the self-imposed and SEC sanctions."

Credible and reliable. Book it.
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Well I have bad news for your source inside the athletic department...They have absolutely no idea what the NCAA is going to do...They might speculate to what they might do but have no idea or inside NCAA sources telling them anything...At this point only the NCAA knows what they are going to do...Not UT and certainly not the water boy you have as a source inside the athletic department know anything.....Maybe I'm wrong but I am 99.9 percent sure I'm not...The NCAA does not leak out these type of things.
 
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Mr_Henley said:
I am very ignorant on most of this topic. I understand CBP hosted a cookout, with recruits, made unathorized and excessive text messages, and eventually lied to the NCAA. I am by no means trying to justify or defend these actions.

My confusion is wondering to which "benchmark" is this being compared? It seems that if what the OP says is true, and you combine the punishments already in place, this seems like a snowball effect that could be getting a bit too large? (not for CBP but for the University)

If I'm wrong, flame away! I just posted here wanting to hear opinions from people that had more knowledge than I do on the situation.

I like CBP and appreciate what he's done for the program, but I have no problem with removing him and the black eye this university is wearing at the moment.

Thanks for the help.
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The NCAA is a joke! CBP did violate some rules, but its not like he gave a recruit an apartment, or had someone take a test for a recruit or even gave a recruit money.
He fed a recruit food. A recruit who took money from another program if I remember, (wasn't it Shelby)

Think this punishment everyone is talking about is a bit harsh.
Suspend them from post season this year, not like they will make to the post season anyway. Then start anew next season.
How much more does CBP need to be punished, loss of $$, suspended by SEC for 8 games..

Enuff is enuff..
FREE COACH PEARL!!!
 
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What's weird about all this hoopla is...What has changed? The NCAA's investigation or result hasn't changed. Maybe it has something to do with the contract Pearl turned in. Maybe it's the results of the games with Jones as HC. Maybe folks are rethinking things based on these new peices of info. Just speculation.
 
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UTBEATEMALL said:
After the Cam Newton thing and the way it looks in comparison to the Reggie Bush ruling, I think that this would be deemed excessive. Huge punishments like this usually come when the HC has been deemed as encouraging and promoting this behavior over a long period of time. A cookout at your house is a minor violation. The calls/texts are also minor violations. The university took the unprecidented move of punishing the HC and I think the NCAA would be foolish to pile on as thought the university and the coach had not had any punishment.

Also if UT gets rid of Pearl, then I will never follow the men's bb program again and will be staunchly against the AD and President. Yes, he made a big mistake, but since Bruce Pearl has been at UT he's made a bigger impact of putting the university in the public eye in a positive light than anyone on campus. He gives UT the positive swagger PR that is invaluable and no other person on campus does that for us. Stand by the guy even if he's suspend a full year and reap the rewards that come when Bruce sells the university to families that it's a place that stands behind you through thick and thin.
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Good post. I know that Bruce messed-up big time, (at least that's what everybody is saying), but to come down so hard on UT while ignoring or dismissing some other violations in the world of college athletics would solidify the NCAA's reputation as the biggest hypocrite to ever walk the planet, (and I know hypocrites).

To give UT a minor death penalty, (if there is such a thing as "minor" death), after what took place with OSU this bowl season would be seen by all for what it is...favoritism to some programs at the expense of others. But I guess expenses are really the only thing that the NCAA cares about in the long run.
 
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BigOrangeD said:
Keep Bruce Regardless. He's the best thing we've had in a long time.
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+1. A lot around here have not been a fan since the early 70s. UTBB under Pearl has utterly spoiled a lot of us. Not saying he cannot be replaced and we go to the next level (Final4/Champs). But, does lightening usually strike twice? Highly doubtful.

BP was a miracle hire for Hammy, thanks to Earnie etc. Even suspended a year and a loss of a scholly, the better road is to stick with him on a long term high buyout contract with success rewards IMO.
 
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tngivem6 said:
The NCAA is a joke! CBP did violate some rules, but its not like he gave a recruit an apartment, or had someone take a test for a recruit or even gave a recruit money.
He fed a recruit food. A recruit who took money from another program if I remember, (wasn't it Shelby)

Think this punishment everyone is talking about is a bit harsh.
Suspend them from post season this year, not like they will make to the post season anyway. Then start anew next season.
How much more does CBP need to be punished, loss of $$, suspended by SEC for 8 games..

Enuff is enuff..
FREE COACH PEARL!!!
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He lied to the NCAA, his assistants lied to the NCAA, and, perhaps most damning, he encouraged recruits and their families to lie to the NCAA about it. That directly undermines the NCAA worse than if he'd bought a recruit a car with his own money. He's going to get hammered for the coverup worse than if he'd personally committed major violations and then just fessed up when he got caught.

I don't know if you're a parent, but it's exactly the same principle that you use when you say "I don't know what you did yet, but if you lie to me about it then you're making it 100 times worse on yourself." You can't allow your authority to be undermined, or else you have no authority. Pearl is screwed, and deservedly so.
 
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I don't buy into it. If I wanted to PESTER someone I know personally that is an AD in Ohio and a NCAA Division membership committee member I would contact him. I just think I'd be pestering him and I don't care to do that. He and his family actually stayed a few days at our house last summer. I will add if anything what Mike Hamilton has in his favor is he actually went to school with at least one (NCAA member) Athletic Director and numerous AD's that may be on the NCAA committee. May not matter at all.
 
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I hope Mike Hamilton is smart enough to already put out "feelers" for a new coach. I also hope the Athletic Department is smart enough to put out feelers for a new AD.
 
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zjcvols said:
Nope. If he was going to fire him, he was going to do it back in September. We know what the letter will say. Most everyone does (unless something big we don't know about happened). Hamilton made his bed. Let's see how badly he'll have to lie in it.
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I disagree completely. He couldn't fire him in September because he couldn't have hired a guy a week before practice officially started. He made the good business decision of terminating Pearl's contract and allowing him to get rid of Pearl at anytime. Now, he has the luxury of canning Pearl when we see officially what these sanctions are likely to be. Terminating a coach's contract doesn't exactly scream, "we're sticking with you no matter what."
 
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I have felt BP would be banned from coaching for at least 1 year ever since all this became known. The only comparison that can be made to what BP did is the Dez Bryant case and he was banned from playing for a year because he lied to the NCAA. IMO, coaches should and will be held to the same standard or higher seeing as how they are supposed to set an example for the student athletes. The question IMO is will MH and the President name a temporary coach for that one year and hold BP's job, knowing he is a proven winner on the court or will they let him go knowing it's going to set the program back to square one.
 
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For what its worth, I think we will see a suspension for the 1st half of next season for CBP and a loss of two scholarships...the suspension would be along with the 8 SEC games this year as well....I don't know...you don't know...maybe NCAA has given UT some idea of what to expect...seems odd to me we would be working on new contract if we felt CBP would be gone forever...and if its just a half season of suspension....Of course you keep him...too good of a ball coach....his openness with NCAA now, his admittance of lying, and the SEC suspension along with self imposed penalties are unprecedented....we will wait and see...until then...ALL IS SPECULATION....
 
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02champs said:
this is crap.....just stop all this nonsense..you bozos..!!
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Agree. I believe this is baseless BS; just something to keep everyone stirred up and with the intent to hurt UT. If the NCAA does eventually put a harsh penalty on Pearl after what the University and SEC has done then all of basketball is hurt. How much blood do they want for a _ucking BBQ for Christ's sake. I doubt Ruth Chris was catering.
 
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Hopefully this is just a bad rumor. I think the suspension the SEC hit him with was a little excessive in the first place. If this is indeed true, it would just be another example of the disgusting rulings of the NCAA.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
He lied to the NCAA, his assistants lied to the NCAA, and, perhaps most damning, he encouraged recruits and their families to lie to the NCAA about it. That directly undermines the NCAA worse than if he'd bought a recruit a car with his own money. He's going to get hammered for the coverup worse than if he'd personally committed major violations and then just fessed up when he got caught.

I don't know if you're a parent, but it's exactly the same principle that you use when you say "I don't know what you did yet, but if you lie to me about it then you're making it 100 times worse on yourself." You can't allow your authority to be undermined, or else you have no authority. Pearl is screwed, and deservedly so.
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I am a parent in fact. I understand you point of view. Lying is usually not a good idea.
But my point is that other coaches have done alot worse with no suspensions.Maybe its just me, but just feel like the punishment doesn't fit the crime here.
Thats all.
I am for Pearl and if he is let go, the Basketball program is back a few years.
Probation I can see. 2 years likely.
 
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VOLnMiami said:
Well I have bad news for your source inside the athletic department...They have absolutely no idea what the NCAA is going to do...They might speculate to what they might do but have no idea or inside NCAA sources telling them anything...At this point only the NCAA knows what they are going to do...Not UT and certainly not the water boy you have as a source inside the athletic department know anything.....Maybe I'm wrong but I am 99.9 percent sure I'm not...The NCAA does not leak out these type of things.
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So could we theorize that Hamilton knows the verdict, and others in the athletic department have also found out? Could that be a remote possibility?
 
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chuck0303 said:
Agree. I believe this is baseless BS; just something to keep everyone stirred up and with the intent to hurt UT. If the NCAA does eventually put a harsh penalty on Pearl after what the University and SEC has done then all of basketball is hurt. How much blood do they want for a _ucking BBQ for Christ's sake. I doubt Ruth Chris was catering.
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Yeah, to hear this numerous times a day without any NEW info, just turn on any sports call in show. This is all they talk about. Over and over and over and over and....

One thing everyone is forgetting is the Mike Slime suspension of CBP for the 8 games. Now either Slime knows something or he just likes to demonstrate his power. My guess is, any conference commissioner has an inside track with the NCAA. If not and they still come down with a major penalty, the 8 game suspension is plain old double jeopardy.
 
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IA VOL said:
This is just speculation by your source. All of the above may happen but no one from Tennessee knows what the penalties are going to be yet. "The NCAA WILL suspend Bruce Pearl and UT will lose scholarships"..... is pure speculation on their part.

Like I said it may happen but no one outside of the NCAA knows at this time.
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I see this as the correct response. I don't think that the NCAA is in the "heads up" or "here's what we are considering" business. I would be extremely surpised if MIke Hamilton isn't the first to know - when he actually receives the certified package/letter from the NCAA.
 
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DocVol said:
Didn't say you have to believe it. But I am very careful what I post on here and in the past have been spot on. FYI.

Not claiming to know; just doing a courtesy of passing along CREDIBLE information from someone within whom I trust (and they are not many). Take it or leave it. Either way, you're welcome.
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Spot on like saying Tennessee's chances of Marcus Jackson were down the toilet after his visit to Miami.
 
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UGA insider said:
Hopefully this is just a bad rumor. I think the suspension the SEC hit him with was a little excessive in the first place. If this is indeed true, it would just be another example of the disgusting rulings of the NCAA.
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The SEC suspension was an effort to salvage the situation.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
The SEC suspension was an effort to salvage the situation.
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Agreed. I think many figure that it will be a 1 year suspension regardless if your source is someone within the AD or watching/listening to anyone comment on the situation. Whether it is or not we will see, but I wonder why UCONN isn't in the news all the time. That's my only beef with it. I back Pearl in giving him a second chance, but if he is gone then he has only himself to blame.
 
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