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volinbham

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This really p!@@es me off.

Inevitable Entitlement of US Air Flight 1549 Passengers Begins to Rear Its Head -- Daily Intel -- New York News Blog -- New York Magazine

Some who were on the plane — brought down by a flock of geese after takeoff from La Guardia Airport on Jan. 15 — said the temporary tease of first-class perks is for the birds. "I think if you survive a plane crash, being upgraded permanently is a good gesture too," said Fred Berretta, 41, of Charlotte, NC, where the Airbus A320 was headed.


Manhattanite Tess Sosa, who escaped the sinking plane with her husband and two small children, thought the airline was too focused on self-congratulations … "They are happy they had such amazing results, and they applaud themselves, and then give us a small token?" she said. "That's how I take it."
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Apparently upgrades for a year and $5,000 are not nearly good enough for these people, whose main accomplishment in this matter was buckling a seatbelt and then exiting a wet plane
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Perfect example of the "entitlement mentality".

This horrible thing happened to us so we DESERVE compensation. NO JUST BE GLAD YOU ARE HERE AND ABLE TO COMPLAIN AND SHUT YOUR TRAP!
 
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.....and that, ladies and gentlemen, is why the US is in trouble.

and how did we get here, by pandering in the first place and growing incrementally worse at every little turn.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
.....and that, ladies and gentlemen, is why the US is in trouble.

and how did we get here, by pandering in the first place and growing incrementally worse at every little turn.
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I was going to post this in the "How Did We Get Here..." thread in the poly forum but I get more attention if I start a thread.
 
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volinbham said:
I was going to post this in the "How Did We Get Here..." thread in the poly forum but I get more attention if I start a thread.
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the title was definitely an eye catcher. Gold Star AND a Smiley Face for you today, regardless of how you did on your spelling test.
 
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I'm always amazed and disappointed with the overwhelming sense of entitlement that exists in this country.

In a fair world, Fred Berretta would have been a goose.
 
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It is a little surprising to me that no one seems to think a bunch of people who boarded an airplane that ended up in the river should have an actionable claim.
 
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cotton said:
It is a little surprising to me that no one seems to think a bunch of people who boarded an airplane that ended up in the river should have an actionable claim.
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I absolutely think they do in the event of pilot error or maintenance negligence. If the geese that destroyed the engine were easily avoidable, I'd say there is a case.

From what I've read about the flight thus far, I'd say we're witnessing our freeloader system in action.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
I absolutely think they do in the event of pilot error or maintenance negligence. If the geese that destroyed the engine were easily avoidable, I'd say there is a case.

From what I've read about the flight thus far, I'd say we're witnessing our freeloader system in action.
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So the airline isn't responsible for transporting passengers safely, regardless of circumstances? I have a hard time siding with an airline spokesperson looking down on a plane in the drink and proclaiming, "Not our fault."

Would your opinion be the same if the plane had broken up and everyone on board had died?
 
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cotton said:
So the airline isn't responsible for transporting passengers safely, regardless of circumstances? I have a hard time siding with an airline spokesperson looking down on a plane in the drink and proclaiming, "Not our fault."

Would your opinion be the same if the plane had broken up and everyone on board had died?
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Depending on the cause of the break up - I'd say yes. Unless the airline can be shown as negligent in some way, I'd say $5000 plus free upgrades for a year is more than sufficient.
 
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volinbham said:
Depending on the cause of the break up - I'd say yes. Unless the airline can be shown as negligent in some way, I'd say $5000 plus free upgrades for a year is more than sufficient.
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I meant to imply that the cause of the break-up was the plane hitting the earth. It is miraculous that in this case, it didn't.

If you want to debate the amount of the award, that is fine. It should be equal to the amount of harm caused. That is different that questioning whether the airline is liable, because it presumes that they are. If all we are doing is dickering about how much money a hellish trip is worth, then I'd say we are all taking the side of the "freeloaders," only with different thresholds of how much freeloading is appropriate.
 
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Personally, I don't think they are entitled to ANY compensation for the hellish ride if the airline was not negligent.

In my view, the airline caused no harm and did all it could to mitigate a harmful situation.

The fact that they were compensated and some are complaining they want more is what bugs me.
 
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volinbham said:
Personally, I don't think they are entitled to ANY compensation for the hellish ride if the airline was not negligent.

In my view, the airline caused no harm and did all it could to mitigate a harmful situation.

The fact that they were compensated and some are complaining they want more is what bugs me.
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So if a plane goes down and crashes to smitherines, and negligence can't be proven, the airline should have no liability to families of the recently disintegrated? That is different that what the law is, and I am very glad of that.

The compensation--which probably hasn't been received-- is essentially an offer of settlement. I don't have any problem with passengers saying that the offer isn't high enough.
 
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volinbham said:
We disagree then.
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volinbham said:
Personally, I don't think they are entitled to ANY compensation for the hellish ride if the airline was not negligent.

In my view, the airline caused no harm and did all it could to mitigate a harmful situation.

The fact that they were compensated and some are complaining they want more is what bugs me.
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Judging by previous case history with regards to this type of incident,I say they get more,without ever going to trial.Lawyers yes,Negotiations yes. Trial no.
 
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I don't doubt some will extract much out of this incident. If I were one of the passengers, I wouldn't feel the airline owed me a thing unless I knew they had done something wrong.
 
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