Some thoughts on the season (looking back)

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It all builds to a cumulative mess. KY game first 5 possessions...punt, fumble, pick 6, pick 6, INT. BUT, still in game at half only down 17-7 off the 17 points off TO's. Second game in now a line of 5 in a row where second half effort was non existent both from coaches and players. Next games...wash, rinse, repeat.
 
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99gator said:
Then, Kentucky. This is where the wheels came off. JG done JG’d. The team quit. And later we learned an assistant coach lost his job during the game. I don’t know what the heck happened, but this to me is clearly the point that everything went to hell. . . . I have serious curiosity regarding the dismissal of Brumbaugh . . .
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I share that curiosity -- especially the notion that he was fired "during the game." I'm not getting on you, 99, but I just don't think it's true. SaturdayDownSouth (SDS) ran with some hearsay posted by a guy named "Zack Geohegan" at Kentucky Sports Radio, which amounted to this: apparently, an "un-named source" who was "close to the UT program" said it happened during the game, but other than sites like SDS, and Outkick, and even RockyTopInsider just repeating this same hearsay, there has been no corroboration of what Geohegan initially reported.

Has there? Anyone? Has Brumbaugh himself made a statement on this?
 
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Pruitt plays JG because of what he "does" in practice. He should bench him because of what he "doesn't do" in games. JG is just too limited. UT had success early because opposing D's had not caught on to what UT was doing. After opponents learned to make the game about what JG cannot or will not do... the O died.
 
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dduncan4163 said:
I think you nailed it. This team has no passion and they have flat out quit on this staff. This is the worst I've seen us play in my 40 years of life. Something has to give because we have too much talent to look this pathetic.we really could go 2-8. It's almost unbelievable we look this bad
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The sad thing is, the team quit on CJP 2 years ago too. You have to wonder why players quit on coaches.
 
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There were issues with Brumbaugh back in June/July. This comes from a very trusted source. The question is why even wait that long?
 
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I am actually pretty shocked that anyone (myself included) actually cares anymore. The fair weather fan BS that gets thrown around is laughable. When in the past 10-15 years has there been any real “fair weather” for this incompetent program? A couple of false breaks in the clouds maybe, but those all turned out to be illusions.

Your point about the coaches not being in the same page is fairly typical. No one seems to know what they’re doing from an organizational standpoint. I was one of those who breathed a sigh of relief when Pruitt was hired because I thought, “Finally! Someone who actually knows how to coach football!” In hindsight, that looks like laughable.
 
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dduncan4163 said:
I think you nailed it. This team has no passion and they have flat out quit on this staff. This is the worst I've seen us play in my 40 years of life. Something has to give because we have too much talent to look this pathetic.we really could go 2-8. It's almost unbelievable we look this bad
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It's like they Sucking for Air in the Trunk of my Cadillac Car.
 
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99gator said:
I was thinking about this today and really wonder if something weird is going on.


I wrote following the Missouri game, that I thought it was a sign that Tennessee had turned the corner. There wasn’t much drama and while it wasn’t a masterpiece, for Tennessee to bring what I thought was their “C” game and win by 3 TDs, I thought that was a big deal.


Even the loss to Georgia, I thought was encouraging. They lead at the half. While the second half wasn’t what you would want, I believed Georgia was the best team in the country at the time because I thought while a lot of teams had an offense, they were the only one with a defense. So, this wasn’t a huge red flag to me.


Then, Kentucky. This is where the wheels came off. JG done JG’d. The team quit. And later we learned an assistant coach lost his job during the game. I don’t know what the heck happened, but this to me is clearly the point that everything went to hell.


And since that time (here’s where the greatest indictment of Pruitt and JG is), they have flat out played and coached scared. Handing the ball off on 3rd and 8 against Alabama. Have two weeks to prepare for Arkansas and have an offensive game plan that even Pat Dye would have said lacked imagination. Ditto Auburn.


You have to go out and be the team you were against South Carolina, Missouri and Georgia (and I mean philosophically). If the personnel can’t execute that, then they need to be benched and see if someone else can. While JG catches a lot of hell (and don’t misunderstand, he deserves a lot of it), you stopped believing in him yet you continue to play him. And that’s on the coaches. That’s on Pruitt. And that’s on Chaney. You can’t put a guy in the game, say “yeah, he’s our guy”, and then not allow him to play the game the way it’s supposed to be played. So while, yeah, the boss is the boss, you better believe we’d be having a knock down drag out argument in the coach’s office if I was forced to continue to play a guy who I didn’t believe was the best guy for the job and prevented me from calling plays. We know what fans and the media think, but there has to be members of the staff who are thinking the same damn thing. I don’t believe for a second that they all believe JG gives them the best chance to win and I don’t believe all of the guys who wear the helmets and pads buy that either. Leadership sometimes means looking your boss in the eye and telling him the stuff he doesn’t want to hear.


But, I have serious curiosity regarding the dismissal of Brumbaugh and how much the coaches are really on the same page.
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Since the 2nd half meltdown at GA, they have not recovered. This is a huge sign of lack of leadership on the team. No Juan Jennings, or Bituli is really ringing loud now!
 
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GoVols64 said:
I've thought the same thing man, something isn't right. The one thing that makes sense is that w/JG at QB the team has no hope. Then he comes out and plays reasonably well at Auburn (although the Pick 6 was par for the course) for a bit. There I feel, like you do, the game plan was weak sauce. I don't have an explanation for it but if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...... "Something is rotten in the sate of Denmark."
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Hang on, easy there...
 
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Bailey gets us in the endzone on his 1st possession without even playing well. JGs only td is to the other team. Why is this so difficult to understand and comprehend for Pruitt or anyone else? Bailey doesn't even grasp the offense or know what he's really doing...and he's leading td drives. I mean...jeez. JG at QB is like we are in quicksand. Everything is so painfully difficult. Bailey comes in? Touchdown. This shouldn't even be an argument on who should be playing. None.
 
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99gator said:
You have to go out and be the team you were against South Carolina, Missouri and Georgia (and I mean philosophically). If the personnel can’t execute that, then they need to be benched and see if someone else can. While JG catches a lot of hell (and don’t misunderstand, he deserves a lot of it), you stopped believing in him yet you continue to play him. And that’s on the coaches. That’s on Pruitt. And that’s on Chaney. You can’t put a guy in the game, say “yeah, he’s our guy”, and then not allow him to play the game the way it’s supposed to be played. So while, yeah, the boss is the boss, you better believe we’d be having a knock down drag out argument in the coach’s office if I was forced to continue to play a guy who I didn’t believe was the best guy for the job and prevented me from calling plays. We know what fans and the media think, but there has to be members of the staff who are thinking the same damn thing. I don’t believe for a second that they all believe JG gives them the best chance to win and I don’t believe all of the guys who wear the helmets and pads buy that either. Leadership sometimes means looking your boss in the eye and telling him the stuff he doesn’t want to hear.
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This sums it up to a T.

We have called games since the 2nd half of the UGA and the first half of UK to not let JG lose the game. In a game that has changed so much that Saban needed 50 points to beat Ole Miss just a few weeks ago.

I thought it crazy at one point but I'm starting to believe Pruitt is more worried about not being proven wrong about sticking with JG than he is swallowing his pride and that might prove he was wrong.

If there's even a hint of that going on its time to go.
 
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99gator said:
I was thinking about this today and really wonder if something weird is going on.


I wrote following the Missouri game, that I thought it was a sign that Tennessee had turned the corner. There wasn’t much drama and while it wasn’t a masterpiece, for Tennessee to bring what I thought was their “C” game and win by 3 TDs, I thought that was a big deal.


Even the loss to Georgia, I thought was encouraging. They lead at the half. While the second half wasn’t what you would want, I believed Georgia was the best team in the country at the time because I thought while a lot of teams had an offense, they were the only one with a defense. So, this wasn’t a huge red flag to me.


Then, Kentucky. This is where the wheels came off. JG done JG’d. The team quit. And later we learned an assistant coach lost his job during the game. I don’t know what the heck happened, but this to me is clearly the point that everything went to hell.


And since that time (here’s where the greatest indictment of Pruitt and JG is), they have flat out played and coached scared. Handing the ball off on 3rd and 8 against Alabama. Have two weeks to prepare for Arkansas and have an offensive game plan that even Pat Dye would have said lacked imagination. Ditto Auburn.


You have to go out and be the team you were against South Carolina, Missouri and Georgia (and I mean philosophically). If the personnel can’t execute that, then they need to be benched and see if someone else can. While JG catches a lot of hell (and don’t misunderstand, he deserves a lot of it), you stopped believing in him yet you continue to play him. And that’s on the coaches. That’s on Pruitt. And that’s on Chaney. You can’t put a guy in the game, say “yeah, he’s our guy”, and then not allow him to play the game the way it’s supposed to be played. So while, yeah, the boss is the boss, you better believe we’d be having a knock down drag out argument in the coach’s office if I was forced to continue to play a guy who I didn’t believe was the best guy for the job and prevented me from calling plays. We know what fans and the media think, but there has to be members of the staff who are thinking the same damn thing. I don’t believe for a second that they all believe JG gives them the best chance to win and I don’t believe all of the guys who wear the helmets and pads buy that either. Leadership sometimes means looking your boss in the eye and telling him the stuff he doesn’t want to hear.


But, I have serious curiosity regarding the dismissal of Brumbaugh and how much the coaches are really on the same page.
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I gave you a like because I agree with most of everything you have said. I am also curious concerning the dismissal of Brumbaugh. I have a feeling all the assistants are under micro managing and; for example Chaney, I don't think for a second, he is drawing up the offensive schemes nor do I think he had rather have jg at qb. But I think if you voice your opinion you get what Brumbaugh got, fired! I feel like that is what happened. Of course I don't know this is just my opinion.
 
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MadWorld said:
Goes totally against my VN nature to give this a like, but I did, because you nailed it - you dang gator.
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Don't encourage him. He got no bidness doing a writeup on Tennessee. He needs to Get A Life of his own. Take up water polo or something. Or Shrimp Trawling.
 
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dduncan4163 said:
Seriously this is worse than 2012 and 2017 by a lot imo. It's beyond sickening
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2017 was worse, we got killed at the line of scrimmage. This year we are being killed by a 5th year senior at quarterback who handicaps the whole team. For whatever reason our coach refuses to bench him.
 
#49
#49
Right you are and it will continue until the Vols have a roster talented enough to compete in the SEC.
 
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