Some thoughts on the actual....you know....game

#26
#26
I think Florida comes out a little flat and its close at the half. Ultimately, the home field, the depth, and 4 years of competent coaching will be too much to overcome.

44-24 Florida
 
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99gator said:
I actually think Tennessee has more of a chance than some of you. I don't think Tennessee wins. And I'm not sure I'm going to be biting my nails. But, I don't think it's going to be ugly.
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Depends on turnovers.

Right now I would take TN and the 21.5.
 
#28
#28
Not sure who starts at QB but if he could start hitting those long balls Milton changes the shape of this and any other game in ways the other two can't. The problem is that he's a tad worse at the shorter stuff than Hooker, Hooker is the better runner, and he hasn't hit those long balls. UT's receivers will have to get off coverage and that could be a problem. IMO, the TE's may be better able to do that than the WR's. Tillman and Jones have the experience and strength to do it. I don't think Hyatt and some of the others are strong enough. I would love to be wrong.

If Milton plays and IF he can hit some shots downfield then it should open up some possibilities in the run game. Not dominant. Just enough. It will open up some of the mid-range stuff... that Milton again will have to prove he can hit.

If Hooker is the starter then he needs a two second clock and an intentional run lane on every play. He can throw deep but more like the average QB.

With either guy, it might not be a bad idea to move the pocket. It is strange to me that they don't do that with Milton all the time considering he can still throw deep to the opposite sideline.

On D, UT's front 4 has to limit UF's run game to even have the remotest shot at slowing things down. Theo Jackson has been great so you have to figure that UF will attack and try to keep him from being a factor. UT's LB's have to have an incredible game.

UT's best shot and pretty much anyone's vs UF is to make it about UF's passing attack. It isn't necessarily weak... just not comparable to UF's run game. Jones seems to have taken a step ahead in the Bama game... if there's good news there for the Vols it is that he's had a habit of throwing to the opponent this year.
 
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PEPPERJAX said:
UT can't abandon the run game completely. They will probably have to pass to set up the run.
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Everything in this game if Milton starts hinges on stretching the field vertically. Hit 3 or 4 deep shots and the run game will open up some along with the short and mid-range stuff.

I like Hooker. I might even say that he gives UT a better chance against less talented teams like MU and UK since Milton is streaky. But Milton has the ability to change the nature of this game if he can hit some throws.
 
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VolBricks said:
I think the OP is right. Milton will start because he has the quicker release and stronger arm. Heupel will dink and dunk the ball down the field because we cannot run against FL and Milton cannot hit the broad side of a barn past 15 yards. Our best (and maybe only) chance in this game is to posses the ball as much as possible and sustain drives. Our WR have to catch a pass that hits them in the hands, our RB's have to make someone miss in space. We will throw a lot of WR screens and 5 yard outs especially early in the game to get Milton confidence and because he has the arm to get the ball out there before the FL CB's can respond.
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I think Josh will run his offense and go deep early and often.
 
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Fast paced offense= we will be giving you guys the ball back a lot which means that you guys will be able to score a lot quick and I can turn the game off at halftime
 
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Based on what I have seen, I don’t think the Tennessee Qb will have sufficient pass protection to throw it deep.

They had a guy against tech open by 20 yards and hooker got broken in half on the release. Ball was so underthrown it resulted in a PI
 
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99gator said:
So, for those who want to talk about the actual game…..

Here are the things that I believe will be a major factor.

  • I believe Milton will start. Why I believe that’s a factor is that I don’t know how much he’s practiced recently and game time has been limited.
  • The game is being played on the road for Tennessee. It’s not “The Swamp” as much as it is being on the road in general. They want to play fast and their style, but it’s different trying to execute on the road and it’s the first road game. And we didn’t have crowds in 2020.
  • Tennessee is last in the SEC in time of possession. Not sure that’s a good idea heading into conference play. While it’s going to be a night game, it will still be hot and humid in Gainesville.
  • Tennessee is also last in the SEC in sacks allowed.
  • While everyone is focused on the deep ball in the passing game, IMO the biggest thing in this game will be the Tennessee WR’s ability to gain yards after catch on the dinks, dunks, and screens. The main thing that changed in the Florida-Alabama game was the Florida defense blitzed a lot early and Alabama had 1-1 situations where their guy made a Florida defender miss a tackle. Florida stopped blitzing, more guys got to the ball, and tackling improved a lot.
  • Make Florida work for it. Don’t allow the big play. If Florida has to run more than 10 plays in a possession, it gives greater opportunity for them to make a mistake which they are capable of. This was actually one of the more shocking things for me from the Florida-Alabama game. Florida always seems to get multiple chunk yardage plays against Tennessee.
  • Tying in to the previous point, make Florida throw the ball inside the red zone. Do whatever you have to in order to make sure they throw the ball in the red zone. Florida’s going to run, florida’s going to make plays, but if Jones has to throw TD passes from inside the 15 yards line…..I don’t trust him.

In the end, while I think a bend but don’t break style might work, I think you’ll see more out of the passing game than you have previously from Florida. I also think “bend, but don’t break” will fail due to a lack of depth, the Florida heat, time of possession, etc.


Tennessee can score because Florida is not the 85 Bears. But, who misses a block and gives up a sack? Who commits a holding penalty? Who drops a pass on 3rd down? How often does Tennessee sabotage itself offensively?
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I’m a cynic, and think that you come on here to spark irrational hope and speak with condescension, but you do provide more rational analysis then a lot of these Vol fans so I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt. Let’s be real, you are not remotely concerned at all about this game, which makes the condescension ooze from your post. You don’t think anything that UT does “might work.” “If they run more than 10 plays in a possession, they might mess up?” WTF? Yeah, UT’s only chance is to let Florida have long, time consuming drives because statistically Florida will eventually screw up? GTFO. The Florida defensive front seven will completely dismantle UT’s offensive line and the RB’s will be no help as they have proven to be ill equipped to block so far this season. UT’s TE’s will be forced to stay in and block which will remove them from being a factor in the passing game, quite frankly the only offensive bright spot I’ve seen this season for UT. Florida will run the ball with #20 (I think) and #6. By the 3rd quarter they will be gashing UT’s front seven for big chunk plays. Mullen will probably limit Jones throwing against UT’s talented secondary. Throw in there a couple of big returns, penalties & reviews that always go Florida’s way, and the one huge momentum shifting crazy play that also always goes Florida’s way (I’m getting angry typing this- I hate Florida) and Florida will easily cover and win the game. Easily.

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#37
The degree of our weaknesses and ineptitude will be exposed against Florida and it will not be pretty. I hope I’m wrong, but nothing in the first 3 games has given me any optimism that we can be competitive against anybody in the SEC that is above average or better.
 
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#38
With these dinks to the sidelines I suspect Florida will get at least one pick 6 against any QB. We don't have a QB that can throw deep. Watching Florida cover Bama receivers I don't see TN receivers getting open, unless refs call the holding they missed by Florida DBs.
 
#40
#40
At some point there is a game where we hit on one we shouldn't. I think there are enough pieces on this team to surprise us with some good play. That being said, if for some reason Florida decides to cooperate, a win could be a HUGE building block for this program. I hope the team has a great week of practice. I can't wait to see if this staff handles it's first SEC road game well. I put the odds rather low; however, you absolutely never know. Crazy upsets happen.
 
#41
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Warren or Fant gonna have a big game Saturday. JMO. If Hooker starts, he has potential to be a nightmare for Grantham's defense. Much faster and more elusive than Milton.
 
#42
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99gator said:
Based on what I have seen, I don’t think the Tennessee Qb will have sufficient pass protection to throw it deep.

They had a guy against tech open by 20 yards and hooker got broken in half on the release. Ball was so underthrown it resulted in a PI
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One play...

it’ll happen in this game too. And we’ll pick up a blitz or 3 as well...

But you’re right....QB and OL play will decide the outcome.
 
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JRich said:
I’m a cynic, and think that you come on here to spark irrational hope and speak with condescension, but you do provide more rational analysis then a lot of these Vol fans so I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt. Let’s be real, you are not remotely concerned at all about this game, which makes the condescension ooze from your post. You don’t think anything that UT does “might work.” “If they run more than 10 plays in a possession, they might mess up?” WTF? Yeah, UT’s only chance is to let Florida have long, time consuming drives because statistically Florida will eventually screw up? GTFO. The Florida defensive front seven will completely dismantle UT’s offensive line and the RB’s will be no help as they have proven to be ill equipped to block so far this season. UT’s TE’s will be forced to stay in and block which will remove them from being a factor in the passing game, quite frankly the only offensive bright spot I’ve seen this season for UT. Florida will run the ball with #20 (I think) and #6. By the 3rd quarter they will be gashing UT’s front seven for big chunk plays. Mullen will probably limit Jones throwing against UT’s talented secondary. Throw in there a couple of big returns, penalties & reviews that always go Florida’s way, and the one huge momentum shifting crazy play that also always goes Florida’s way (I’m getting angry typing this- I hate Florida) and Florida will easily cover and win the game. Easily.

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I gave my opinion of how I see Tennessee trying to win this game. Now, the main reason I believe Florida will win is they are better up front on both sides of the ball. When that's the case, you have to get creative and try to take advantage of other people's weaknesses in whatever way you can because life is a hell of a lot easier when you own the line of scrimmage. So far, Florida has punted less often than they have had turnovers or a turnover on loss of downs.

Which means......they are going to move the ball. I don't think Tennessee is just going to go out there and shut them down and even if the Tennessee defense is playing well, the nature of the Tennessee offense means Florida is going to have a lot of possessions. So, the best thing (IMO) is not to give up the big play, not to let it be easy, and exploit the most obvious Florida weakness.....trusting the Florida QB to make quick decisions and accurate throws in tight windows in the red zone. Florida has one red zone TD pass this year and it's on a WR screen. And Florida has made mistakes when they've been forced into those situations. It didn't happen against Alabama, although they botched the 2 point play.

So, if they can make Florida kick FGs, if they can turn these 3 yard passes into 9 yard gains, etc., then maybe they can pull it off.

I don't think so either. I don't think they have seen a team that can run like Florida and I think playing on the road will cause communication problems and mistakes.

However, I've been wrong before and hold that as a possibility.
 
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99gator said:
So, for those who want to talk about the actual game…..

Here are the things that I believe will be a major factor.

  • I believe Milton will start. Why I believe that’s a factor is that I don’t know how much he’s practiced recently and game time has been limited.
  • The game is being played on the road for Tennessee. It’s not “The Swamp” as much as it is being on the road in general. They want to play fast and their style, but it’s different trying to execute on the road and it’s the first road game. And we didn’t have crowds in 2020.
  • Tennessee is last in the SEC in time of possession. Not sure that’s a good idea heading into conference play. While it’s going to be a night game, it will still be hot and humid in Gainesville.
  • Tennessee is also last in the SEC in sacks allowed.
  • While everyone is focused on the deep ball in the passing game, IMO the biggest thing in this game will be the Tennessee WR’s ability to gain yards after catch on the dinks, dunks, and screens. The main thing that changed in the Florida-Alabama game was the Florida defense blitzed a lot early and Alabama had 1-1 situations where their guy made a Florida defender miss a tackle. Florida stopped blitzing, more guys got to the ball, and tackling improved a lot.
  • Make Florida work for it. Don’t allow the big play. If Florida has to run more than 10 plays in a possession, it gives greater opportunity for them to make a mistake which they are capable of. This was actually one of the more shocking things for me from the Florida-Alabama game. Florida always seems to get multiple chunk yardage plays against Tennessee.
  • Tying in to the previous point, make Florida throw the ball inside the red zone. Do whatever you have to in order to make sure they throw the ball in the red zone. Florida’s going to run, florida’s going to make plays, but if Jones has to throw TD passes from inside the 15 yards line…..I don’t trust him.

In the end, while I think a bend but don’t break style might work, I think you’ll see more out of the passing game than you have previously from Florida. I also think “bend, but don’t break” will fail due to a lack of depth, the Florida heat, time of possession, etc.


Tennessee can score because Florida is not the 85 Bears. But, who misses a block and gives up a sack? Who commits a holding penalty? Who drops a pass on 3rd down? How often does Tennessee sabotage itself offensively?
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#45
#45
99gator said:
So, for those who want to talk about the actual game…..

Here are the things that I believe will be a major factor.

  • I believe Milton will start. Why I believe that’s a factor is that I don’t know how much he’s practiced recently and game time has been limited.
  • The game is being played on the road for Tennessee. It’s not “The Swamp” as much as it is being on the road in general. They want to play fast and their style, but it’s different trying to execute on the road and it’s the first road game. And we didn’t have crowds in 2020.
  • Tennessee is last in the SEC in time of possession. Not sure that’s a good idea heading into conference play. While it’s going to be a night game, it will still be hot and humid in Gainesville.
  • Tennessee is also last in the SEC in sacks allowed.
  • While everyone is focused on the deep ball in the passing game, IMO the biggest thing in this game will be the Tennessee WR’s ability to gain yards after catch on the dinks, dunks, and screens. The main thing that changed in the Florida-Alabama game was the Florida defense blitzed a lot early and Alabama had 1-1 situations where their guy made a Florida defender miss a tackle. Florida stopped blitzing, more guys got to the ball, and tackling improved a lot.
  • Make Florida work for it. Don’t allow the big play. If Florida has to run more than 10 plays in a possession, it gives greater opportunity for them to make a mistake which they are capable of. This was actually one of the more shocking things for me from the Florida-Alabama game. Florida always seems to get multiple chunk yardage plays against Tennessee.
  • Tying in to the previous point, make Florida throw the ball inside the red zone. Do whatever you have to in order to make sure they throw the ball in the red zone. Florida’s going to run, florida’s going to make plays, but if Jones has to throw TD passes from inside the 15 yards line…..I don’t trust him.

In the end, while I think a bend but don’t break style might work, I think you’ll see more out of the passing game than you have previously from Florida. I also think “bend, but don’t break” will fail due to a lack of depth, the Florida heat, time of possession, etc.


Tennessee can score because Florida is not the 85 Bears. But, who misses a block and gives up a sack? Who commits a holding penalty? Who drops a pass on 3rd down? How often does Tennessee sabotage itself offensively?
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Time of possession is now an overrated stat. It’s all about offensive efficiency (which unfortunately we have not been high in thus far). If you look at the time of possession rankings from the three seasons Heupel was at UCF, they ranked towards the bottom of the country but yet they still were top 5 each year in points scored per game.
 
#46
#46
Gonna be a tough game and I hope UT shows up to play. I have been impressed with the level of effort that I have seen but not sure it will be enough to hold off the Gators.
 
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Just need the Run game from Bowling Green, the Special teams from Pitt and the Passing/Defense/winning turnover margin and low penalties from Tennessee Tech game. And Florida to be still feeling the ill effects of that bama game.
 
#48
#48
Florida needs one guy that can get home consistently to the QB and Tennessee is screwed. In the past several times Tennessee had an outside shot in this game. I just don’t see it this time. Our line, our running game , our QB play is too sketchy for me to see us having a chance.
 
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99gator said:
I gave my opinion of how I see Tennessee trying to win this game. Now, the main reason I believe Florida will win is they are better up front on both sides of the ball. When that's the case, you have to get creative and try to take advantage of other people's weaknesses in whatever way you can because life is a hell of a lot easier when you own the line of scrimmage. So far, Florida has punted less often than they have had turnovers or a turnover on loss of downs.

Which means......they are going to move the ball. I don't think Tennessee is just going to go out there and shut them down and even if the Tennessee defense is playing well, the nature of the Tennessee offense means Florida is going to have a lot of possessions. So, the best thing (IMO) is not to give up the big play, not to let it be easy, and exploit the most obvious Florida weakness.....trusting the Florida QB to make quick decisions and accurate throws in tight windows in the red zone. Florida has one red zone TD pass this year and it's on a WR screen. And Florida has made mistakes when they've been forced into those situations. It didn't happen against Alabama, although they botched the 2 point play.

So, if they can make Florida kick FGs, if they can turn these 3 yard passes into 9 yard gains, etc., then maybe they can pull it off.

I don't think so either. I don't think they have seen a team that can run like Florida and I think playing on the road will cause communication problems and mistakes.

However, I've been wrong before and hold that as a possibility.
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That’s better. Sounds like we are on the same page. You splash a little unnecessary doubt in there, most confident fans do, but otherwise honest analysis. Mullen is smart enough to limit Emory’s throws and ride those RB’s. UT’s defensive front is talented and have a lot of heart but are too thin to keep up. He knows that.
 
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