So how many games will Coach Tyndall's first team win?

How many games will Coach Tyndall's first team win?

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#76
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Spartacavolus said:
Almost every team has bad losses. It's how you lose. Were you off and the opponent was on, foul trouble, etc? Or did the opponent take it to you as you are passive and not coaching or playing the way you should in regards to effort and intensity. The latter isn't expected with CDT.
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Bad losses are bad losses. It doesn't matter how they happen. It's a loss. Never heard of a positive bad loss.
 
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HBCButch said:
Bad losses are bad losses. It doesn't matter how they happen. It's a loss. Never heard of a positive bad loss.
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A loss due to piss poor effort and lack of preparation isn't the same as a hard fought loss on a tough night. In the loss column it counts the same, but for reading the character of a team and coach, there is little comparison.
If there wasnt a difference, fans wouldn't give ovations after hard fought losses and boo poor effort off the court in other losses.
 
#80
#80
About 20 wins. He will lose to some teams he shouldn't like every single bball coach. It is funny some are already making excuses for it and accepting that it does happen, but never accepted that it happened before. Last year we had a couple of those games and that same basic understanding was absent. It happens to all coaches. I won't panic when it does like people did last year when we had games where we were just missing shots and free throws or the other team had some guy hit shots he never does.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
A loss due to piss poor effort and lack of preparation isn't the same as a hard fought loss on a tough night. In the loss column it counts the same, but for reading the character of a team and coach, there is little comparison.
If there wasnt a difference, fans wouldn't give ovations after hard fought losses and boo poor effort off the court in other losses.
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Bad losses aren't normally attributed to good teams.IE, UT's loss to Michigan in the S16 was a hard fought, tough loss. It wasn't a bad loss. UT had some bad losses under Martin, Pearl and other's. They will under Tyndall. Are you going to boo the team off the court when Tyndall gets his share of bad losses?
 
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HBC has already admitted he's not a Vol fan, just a Cuonzite, not that his opinion would even be remotely reasonable regardless. As Tyndall inherited Zo's dumpster fire and it was a dumpster fire in bad part of town too. At least Pearl's dumpster fire was in Beverly Hills, so you knew there was some nice stuff in there that might be salvageable.
 
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Patrick Brown ‏@patrickbrownTFP
Tyndall on expectations: 'I don't want to put on a ceiling this year or any year. ...We need to overachieve this year to have a great year.'
 
#86
#86
It's hard to say. Biggest question is; How are all these grad transfers, juco guys, and late commits going to jell together with the handful of returning guys? However, Kentucky brings in a bunch of new guys every year and they can jell. Granted, most of them are 4 and 5 star players, but sometimes, even those guys don't always jell, and sometimes, a special group of lower rated guys shock the world.

My gut feeling is the Vols will either be exceptionally bad or exceptionally good. But either way, it will hopefully be fun to watch.
 
#87
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calban said:
Patrick Brown ‏@patrickbrownTFP
Tyndall on expectations: 'I don't want to put on a ceiling this year or any year. ...We need to overachieve this year to have a great year.'
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He sure doesn't sugarcoat things....
 
#88
#88
I selected 15-20 wins next year. I'd be surprised if the Vols can't muster up 15 wins in a pretty weak conference (I don't see the SEC changing much this year), and I'd be surprised if the Vols win total is above the teens. There was just too much shake up during the coaching transition ie new schemes, plays, styles, recruits, transfers in and out, etc. and not enough existing talent and experience left or new talent and experience coming in to do much better, IMO.
 
#89
#89
18 with a fighting chance going into SEC tourney and then prob hosting NIT game... Believe upgrade in coaching re halftime adjustments and in last 2 minutes of games will net us at least 4 surprise wins against quality teams we would not have had with last year's regime.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
HBC has already admitted he's not a Vol fan, just a Cuonzite, not that his opinion would even be remotely reasonable regardless. As Tyndall inherited Zo's dumpster fire and it was a dumpster fire in bad part of town too. At least Pearl's dumpster fire was in Beverly Hills, so you knew there was some nice stuff in there that might be salvageable.
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HBC is very much a Vol fan and I support UT therefore I support Tyndall. lol! VolArmy, your opinion and a quarter wouldn't buy me a cup of coffee at the Quick Trip. Zo didn't leave a dumpster fire and neither did Pearl . But neither left automatic NCAAT teams either. I love the folks that think Pearl left a 'Beverly Hills' team when Harris and Hopson were not a part of that and no one knew what any of the rest would do at the time. The team Tyndall takes over will be dominated by CM recruits....JRich and Hubbs. If he really wanted to impress me this early, knock me out of my socks, he'd have gotten guys better than those two....but he didn't.
 
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HBCButch said:
HBC is very much a Vol fan and I support UT therefore I support Tyndall. lol! VolArmy, your opinion and a quarter wouldn't buy me a cup of coffee at the Quick Trip. Zo didn't leave a dumpster fire and neither did Pearl . But neither left automatic NCAAT teams either. I love the folks that think Pearl left a 'Beverly Hills' team when Harris and Hopson were not a part of that and no one knew what any of the rest would do at the time. The team Tyndall takes over will be dominated by CM recruits....JRich and Hubbs. If he really wanted to impress me this early, knock me out of my socks, he'd have gotten guys better than those two....but he didn't.
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I have a feeling that it's in our best interest that you keep your socks on. :yuck:
 
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Lefteye said:
NM
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That appears to be the bar but I get off track sometimes. I need memo's and reminders. Is Tyndall supposed to live up to Pearl or was that just a prerequisite for Martin in his first year and now we start over at 'no expectations'?
 
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vols 30 said:
He sure doesn't sugarcoat things....
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He also said nothing if you noticed. What's his definition of 'overachieving'? Compared to what? I could be an arse and say he has to reach the S16 or better his first year since that was our last position, but I'll cut him some slack. Win 20 games. Win 20 your way brother.
 
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HBCButch said:
That appears to be the bar but I get off track sometimes. I need memo's and reminders. Is Tyndall supposed to live up to Pearl or was that just a prerequisite for Martin in his first year and now we start over at 'no expectations'?
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That's not even close to true....the majority liked Zo his first yr....after his first yr the overwhelming majority liked him....he lost some fans during his second yr and the overwhelming majority started to not like him during his third season. It's about building a solid program....in my opinion Zo wasn't doing that and it's undetermined if CDT will but initial signs are promising.
 
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#99
volbeast33 said:
That's not even close to true....the majority liked Zo his first yr....after his first yr the overwhelming majority liked him....he lost some fans during his second yr and the overwhelming majority started to not like him during his third season. It's about building a solid program....in my opinion Zo wasn't doing that and it's undetermined if CDT will but initial signs are promising.
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BS! With the way most of you are, Tyndall better watch his back. If your 'expectations' aren't met you get a little restless.
 
#100
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HBCButch said:
BS! With the way most of you are, Tyndall better watch his back. If your 'expectations' aren't met you get a little restless.
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Don't get all emotional......if Tyndall nails his second recruiting class and looks like a decent coach he will have our support....I think he will get it done....
 
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