Simms upset according to Rucker

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bleedorange0037 said:
Without the INT the game could have gone a totally different way. The fumbled punt was bad, but throwing a pick six to a d-lineman is beyond indefensible. That boneheaded play aside, Bray did look the part of an SEC qb for the rest of the game.
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No it couldn't have. Assuming Simms was still in instead of Bray - we never would have scored enough points to keep up with USCjr for that long. Plus he probably would have taken 4-7 more sacks and fumbled a time or two more thus making it even worse.

Simms could not have made some of the throws/plays Bray made.
 
#27
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bleedorange0037 said:
Without the INT the game could have gone a totally different way. The fumbled punt was bad, but throwing a pick six to a d-lineman is beyond indefensible. That boneheaded play aside, Bray did look the part of an SEC qb for the rest of the game.
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Yes, it was a bad throw on Bray's part but to his defense the defensive player slipped back in coverage at the last second. Hopefully Bray won't make that same mistake twice but it also was a good change by the defense. The best part about this was Bray came back and led the Vols to 2 TD's with some very good accurate long ball throws.
 
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I think it is weak to attack Simms the way people are attacking him in this thread. I think Bray won the starting job today - mostly because the coaches were waiting on him to win it (a la EA in 2005 from RC).

I know timing has a lot to do with this, but if and when Bray starts Homecoming, Simms will have been used as a human shock absorber this entire season and basically ZERO glory for it. It wasn't his fault we lost to LSU. It wasn't really his fault we lost today.

It is not fair to pile on Simms. He has put it on the line for his team this season, and he's about to get benched for the four winnable games. AND WE STILL MAY NEED HIM!
 
#29
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The future is bray and that is now!! Simms needs to get over it and support him or get out!!Bray makes his reads quickly and confidently, Simms holding the ball and being unsure at times is killing us!
 
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utgibbs said:
I think it is weak to attack Simms the way people are attacking him in this thread. I think Bray won the starting job today - mostly because the coaches were waiting on him to win it (a la EA in 2005 from RC).

I know timing has a lot to do with this, but if and when Bray starts Homecoming, Simms will have been used as a human shock absorber this entire season and basically ZERO glory for it. It wasn't his fault we lost to LSU. It wasn't really his fault we lost today.

It is not fair to pile on Simms. He has put it on the line for his team this season, and he's about to get benched for the four winnable games. AND WE STILL MAY NEED HIM!
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bleedorange0037 said:
In Simms defense, he had really played fairly well, and was replaced only to watch Bray come in and basically knock us out of the game with an inexcusable pick-6. It was good to see Bray come back and play well after that, but the game was lost on that play. Can't blame Simms for being upset, it's not his fault the line can't block anybody.
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He's a Freshman. We'll take our lumps... but after his first 2 series (1/4 8 0TD/1INT) he went 8/11 151 2TD/0INT.

He gives us so much more upside than Simms does. USCe was also, by a long shot, the best defense we'll face the rest of the year. It's Bray's team (should be) the rest of this year, next year and through 2013.

We were out of the game as soon as USCe took the ball at the 8 yard line and marched 92 yards for a TD. We were in the game to that point.
 
#32
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Simms upset? Yea, the fan base too. You can debate all you want whether or not he should have come out when he did, but here's the bottom line: Simms is gritty and tough but we are likely seeing all he has to offer which is far short of difference making QB play in the SEC. Bray has a gigantic upside and a big arm, and looked today like he has the potential to stretch the field and make our offense much more difficult to defend. We are 2-6. Let's see where Bray can take us.
 
#33
#33
Simms needs to keep quiet and act like he has some maturity; then, go look in the mirror. THAT'S the reason Bray is in. He had almost 7 games and didn't get it done. We were last in the SEC in offense coming in and with Bray we look like we can stretch the field and compete. I had to realize one day that my skills weren't going to take me to the pros (happened about 11th grade when guys started shattering backboards that were my age!), he needs to realize it too and he will.
 
#34
#34
He should have seen how unhappy I was when he held the ball for a year and half and got sacked and fumbled at a point where we had all the momentum.
 
#35
#35
Vols starting QB Matt Simms: "There's nothing much I can do about getting hit in the back
-Wes Rucker


Vols starting QB Matt Simms: "It wasn't like I dropped back and threw it to the other team.
-Wes Rucker


What a Douche!
 
#36
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utgibbs said:
I think it is weak to attack Simms the way people are attacking him in this thread. I think Bray won the starting job today - mostly because the coaches were waiting on him to win it (a la EA in 2005 from RC).

I know timing has a lot to do with this, but if and when Bray starts Homecoming, Simms will have been used as a human shock absorber this entire season and basically ZERO glory for it. It wasn't his fault we lost to LSU. It wasn't really his fault we lost today.

It is not fair to pile on Simms. He has put it on the line for his team this season, and he's about to get benched for the four winnable games. AND WE STILL MAY NEED HIM!
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I think it is Simm's cocky attitude that has people turned off...it certainly has for me. I agree that the kid has taken a beating this year, but some of that is on his bad decision making. I do admire his effort, but his attitude really turns me off.
 
#37
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R0CKYT0P 16 said:
Vols starting QB Matt Simms: "There's nothing much I can do about getting hit in the back
-Wes Rucker
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i would say, "well hell matt you should be used to it by now and the ball wasn't swiped out, you just dont know how to hold onto it!"
 
#38
#38
It isn't really piling on Simms to say that Bray's skill set is better matched to the needs of this team. Simms has had eight games to work on his release skills and ball protection, and he's still making the same critical mistakes that gift the other team points. Bray is a better fit for this team right now and as long as that holds true, it would be foolish not to play him because the other guy is upset.
 
#39
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utgibbs said:
I think it is weak to attack Simms the way people are attacking him in this thread. I think Bray won the starting job today - mostly because the coaches were waiting on him to win it (a la EA in 2005 from RC).

I know timing has a lot to do with this, but if and when Bray starts Homecoming, Simms will have been used as a human shock absorber this entire season and basically ZERO glory for it. It wasn't his fault we lost to LSU. It wasn't really his fault we lost today.

It is not fair to pile on Simms. He has put it on the line for his team this season, and he's about to get benched for the four winnable games. AND WE STILL MAY NEED HIM!
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Eh...an average QB at best. Not worthy of a statue honoring his great sacrafice to the program.

A little sideline rest will do his body some good....pretty sure he'll see some mop-up duty over the next 4 games.
 
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#41
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Honestly, Simms isn't a bad QB. He won't, outright, lose the game for us. Problem is? We aren't good enough to have a QB like that. Alabama needs that kind of QB because their running game and Defense can control the pace of the game. We need a QB like Bray that can, in time, provide a full level of skill sets that Simms just simply doesn't have. I honestly saw Bray take enormous strides today towards becoming a very good QB. He's isn't there yet, but once he got his feet under him, he showed us and the coaches what he's capable of.

His quotes should pretty much assure that he won't get any time with the 1st Team this week.
 
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DC Vol said:
He's a Freshman. We'll take our lumps... but after his first 2 series (1/4 8 0TD/1INT) he went 8/11 151 2TD/0INT.

He gives us so much more upside than Simms does. USCe was also, by a long shot, the best defense we'll face the rest of the year. It's Bray's team (should be) the rest of this year, next year and through 2013.

We were out of the game as soon as USCe took the ball at the 8 yard line and marched 92 yards for a TD. We were in the game to that point.
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No disagreement with that. Just saying I could see how Simms would be frustrated. He's hung in there and been a whipping post for several great defenses, all the while playing fairly well, then gets pulled without ever really even messing up. He's obviously not the greatest QB out there, but he's also pretty far down the list of "things that are wrong with the 2010 Vols".
 
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Look gentlemen, at the end of the day, they both played pretty well...& they both made a couple costly mistakes. Both had 2 TDs, & threw for a good # of yds with pretty good comp %. Simms had 2 fumbles in which he held the ball too long. Bray had the bad pick 6. Both soldiered through & didn't get totally rattled. If he holds onto one of those fumbles & we get a FG, let's say, you guys wouldn't be taking the piss outa him with the tenacity you are. Bray doesn't throw the pick 6, we're in much better position to come back & possibly win.

Now, whomever will be the starter next game (i personally am a proponent of picking a starter from here on out & sticking to it) should be picked for strategic reasons, simply put: future & experience. They both seem to lead the offense ~equally efficiently (with roon for improvement), so either way, i don't see a difference in W/L. By this token, Bray looks to be the starter going forward.
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#45
#45
I thought Simms should have come back on after the 2nd series. Bray is lucky we converted the fake punt.

Both don't know when to throw it away though.
 
#46
#46
LAJBoys said:
In his tweet that simms is very very unhappy. Dude needs to get over it. We are average at best with him
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I suggest that Simms start working on where he is going to transfer to for next season. He should have seen his last snap under center at UT today.
 
#47
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R0CKYT0P 16 said:
Vols starting QB Matt Simms: "There's nothing much I can do about getting hit in the back
-Wes Rucker


Vols starting QB Matt Simms: "It wasn't like I dropped back and threw it to the other team.
-Wes Rucker


What a Douche!
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Come on dude, handle it better than that.
 
#48
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R0CKYT0P 16 said:
Vols starting QB Matt Simms: "There's nothing much I can do about getting hit in the back
-Wes Rucker


Vols starting QB Matt Simms: "It wasn't like I dropped back and threw it to the other team.
-Wes Rucker


What a Douche!
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If Simms actually made that second comment, he needs to be benched for at least a game, no matter what. That kind of mouthing off shows that he is not a team player. And actually, he has dropped back and thrown to the other team several times, on critical drives.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
In Simms defense, he had really played fairly well, and was replaced only to watch Bray come in and basically knock us out of the game with an inexcusable pick-6. It was good to see Bray come back and play well after that, but the game was lost on that play. Can't blame Simms for being upset, it's not his fault the line can't block anybody.
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Simms held on to the ball WAY too long in the pocket, causing himself to get sacked numerous times, including two plays on which he proceeded to fumble the ball away to South Carolina. Two Simms fumbles equalled 14 South Carolina points.
 
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LA Vol said:
If Simms actually made that second comment, he needs to be benched for at least a game, no matter what. That kind of mouthing off shows that he is not a team player. And actually, he has dropped back and thrown to the other team several times, on critical drives.
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But today he didn't. He was playing well. God forbid he state facts. :crazy:
 
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