Sick and tired of our delusional academic administration!

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TechnoVol

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We are a state, land grant university for crying out loud! Our administration act like they are running a private or Ivy League college. Wake up people, we are not that!

This administration is so self-absorbed that that they aren't satisfied unless they can continue to report each year that the ACT score of each freshman class is higher than the previous year.

It's pathetic really, they are turning in-state kids away from admission because they want to hand pick those applicants with the highest ACT scores. Are you kidding me?

Give me a break, the administration has delusions of being something they are not. Go back to first and foremost admitting those in-state kids without the elite ACT scores. Go back to allowing this university to co-exist in a healthy relationship with the athletic department. Let's be real, the university needs the athletic department to be successful.

Quit trying to be some sort of elite academic institution and focus on being a state university that excels equally on and off the field.
 
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105437 said:
It's pathetic really, they are turning in-state kids away from admission because they want to hand pick those applicants with the highest ACT scores. Are you kidding me?
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Maybe the in-state students should study harder.
 
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UTHorsey said:
And this relates to football how?
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Because football should be the most important thing to an academic institution. We should also lower our standards and not try to attract the best students in the state to the flagship university of our state. In summary, the football team sucks and the OP got a denial letter from UT.
 
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You can just say that you think football is more important than academics if that's how you really feel.
 
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UTHorsey said:
And this relates to football how?
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We are at an academic and admissions disadvantage compared to the rest of the "powerhouse" SEC teams. Standards are a bit higher due to changes that have happened over the past few years. There was an article in Volquest that spoke to this very well, but being a pay sight, I'm under obligation not to post it here.
 
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PACKERVOL said:
We are at an academic and admissions disadvantage compared to the rest of the "powerhouse" SEC teams. Standards are a bit higher due to changes that have happened over the past few years. There was an article in Volquest that spoke to this very well, but being a pay sight, I'm under obligation not to post it here.
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No we are not. UF and Georgia both have much higher standards than us. We are academically mediocre compared to the rest of the SEC. Even Alabama is commonly rated better academically than UT. It is killing those guys in recruiting, huh?
 
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I'd rather have a valuable degree, thanks.

Cheek's got an alright thought on improving, he's just going about it like a moron.
 
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UT's goal is to become a too 25 public university. Check the list of the current too 25: there are plenty of schools with successful football teams and athletic programs in general.

Since I've been a student at Tennessee there has been academic improvement every year, but we've struggled athletically. I don't think the two are necessarily related.

I don't agree with Cheek's insistence a
On keeping Dooley, but I don't think he should be fired. He's been meeting his goals as an administrator and it's not like whether Dooley is retained or not will be his decision anyway. The man just expressed an opinion people, geeze.

The fact of the matter is that our Athletic department isn't doing so hot right now because of mistakes made by our former AD and a current underperforming HC whose buyout is steep. No matter what Hart's move is at the end of the season, there is risk involved. And ultimately it is Hart's decision.

Don't start calling for the head of the one administrator we have who is actually meeting the goals he's made public.
 
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UTHorsey said:
And this relates to football how?
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If you don't understand how this relates to the success of the football program, I'm sorry.

These stricter standards for the sake of puffing their chests out with high GPA & ACT scores to report of the freshman class put us at a big disadvantage in recruiting athletes. I don't believe we should just open the doors to all regardless of grades & test scores but we should have some sense of proportionality. Don't forget, our university admissions don't seem to have a problem admitting the very same kids their sophomore year that they quickly denied as freshman.
 
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Vol_Maul said:
No we are not. UF and Georgia both have much higher standards than us. We are academically mediocre compared to the rest of the SEC. Even Alabama is commonly rated better academically than UT. It is killing those guys in recruiting, huh?
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Not according to Chavis. In his recent speech in Knoxville he said the opposite regarding recruiting football players at UT.
 
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1967vol said:
Not according to Chavis. In his recent speech in Knoxville he said the opposite regarding recruiting football players at UT.
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He's wrong.

Florida and Georgia are the 2nd and 3rd ranked academic schools in the conference. Bama is about 5th, we are around 8th.
 
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"Why should we have to go to class if we came here to play FOOTBALL, we ain't come to play SCHOOL, classes are POINTLESS."
 
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Velo Vol said:
Maybe the in-state students should study harder.
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You really need to get your facts straight... our admissions people are denying in-state kids with GPAs in the 3.0-3.5 range with ACT scores between 25 - 30. Why, because they want to hand pick those from out of state that are slightly higher to fit their needs.
 
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Vol_Maul said:
No we are not. UF and Georgia both have much higher standards than us. We are academically mediocre compared to the rest of the SEC. Even Alabama is commonly rated better academically than UT. It is killing those guys in recruiting, huh?
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Only giving a summary of what Doug Matthews spoke to during his weekly question and answer post with Volquest. Shed a little light on some of the non obvious football reasons that helped contribute to the shape our program is in now. No need to get cob up your ....
 
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105437 said:
If you don't understand how this relates to the success of the football program, I'm sorry.

These stricter standards for the sake of puffing their chests out with high GPA & ACT scores to report of the freshman class put us at a big disadvantage in recruiting athletes. I don't believe we should just open the doors to all regardless of grades & test scores but we should have some sense of proportionality. Don't forget, our university admissions don't seem to have a problem admitting the very same kids their sophomore year that they quickly denied as freshman.
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So we should change our name to Tennessee Community College (or maybe Tennuhsee Kumunity Collij) in order to cheapen our standards for very few students.
 
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Vol_Maul said:
Because football should be the most important thing to an academic institution. We should also lower our standards and not try to attract the best students in the state to the flagship university of our state. In summary, the football team sucks and the OP got a denial letter from UT.
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The OP got no such denial letter for any of my 3 university graduates. Two of which have moved on the UT Med school.
 
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105437 said:
You really need to get your facts straight... our admissions people are denying in-state kids with GPAs in the 3.0-3.5 range with ACT scores between 25 - 30. Why, because they want to hand pick those from out of state that are slightly higher to fit their needs.
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and you know this how?
 
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1967vol said:
Not according to Chavis. In his recent speech in Knoxville he said the opposite regarding recruiting football players at UT.
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Chavis is in his fourth season at LSU. That is all that needs to be said about that. Also, LSU is pretty much a Sun Belt school academically.
 
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