Sick and tired of our delusional academic administration!

#27
#27
He's wrong.

Florida and Georgia are the 2nd and 3rd ranked academic schools in the conference. Bama is about 5th, we are around 8th.

Lower standards may = higher academic standings. Just sayin'.
 
#28
#28
and you know this how?

From several families who have personal experience with this very situation. My kids went to a large high school and we know several families with kids who had this happen only to be welcomed with open arms their sophomore year.
 
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Only giving a summary of what Doug Matthews spoke to during his weekly question and answer post with Volquest. Shed a little light on some of the non obvious football reasons that helped contribute to the shape our program is in now. No need to get cob up your ....

He whiffed real bad then.
 
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Florida's admission standards are hire than ours. Proof: Omari Phillips.
 
#34
#34
Apparently people think academic prestige and football success are inversely correlated.

To a small extent, I agree.

Doesn't answer why schools that are ranked higher than UT academically all over the country are still having more football success than we are.
 
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To a small extent, I agree.

Doesn't answer why schools that are ranked higher than UT academically all over the country are still having more football success than we are.

The correlation is weak.

There is no doubt that Tennessee should be able to be much more competitive in both aspects.
 
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Wow...this is the dumbest thread I have read in a while (which is REALLY saying something). If you are so desperate for a scapegoat that you think our formerly low academic standards being elevated to slightly above mediocre has hurt our athletic programs, you are a fool.

If you are a borderline in-state candidate who couldn't get into Tennessee because more qualified people got in ahead of you, too bad. There are still plenty of places to get your degree in-state that will offer you a decent education (MTSU, ETSU, TTU, Memphis, etc). Tennessee elevating their standards only accomplishes good things. As it has been stated, Florida, Alabama, UGA, etc are all better academic institutions that are doing just fine athletically.
 
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Screw the future of our kids, my football team is waaayyy more important. UT should just had out diplomas. Thinking like this is why our education system is so messed up.
 
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The correlation is weak.

There is no doubt that Tennessee should be able to be much more competitive in both aspects.

Yeah, but I have to look at the more academic schools with a tradition of suck in football (Vandy) and scratch my head a bit.

I'm not saying I agree with this BS in the thread, though.
 
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Screw the future of our kids, my football team is waaayyy more important. UT should just had out diplomas. Thinking like this is why our education system is so messed up.

Exactly right. I'd venture a guess that the majority of people who spew garbage like that have no academic affiliation with UT and don't give two craps about it.
 
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Exactly right. I'd venture a guess that the majority of people who spew garbage like that have no academic affiliation with UT and don't give two craps about it.

Yepp. Tennessee is just a football team that's it. :crazy:
 
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Yeah, but I have to look at the more academic schools with a tradition of suck in football (Vandy) and scratch my head a bit.

I'm not saying I agree with this BS in the thread, though.

Their standards are far an away more stringent than ours. Hell, ND has stringent standards. Look what a good football coach can do!
 
#46
#46
USC, Michigan, UF, Texas, and Notre Dame are both elite academic and athletic schools. There is no reason why Tennessee can't be both either.
 
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What we are seeing here is a fanbase with more anger than sense. They will blame anyone they possibly can. TOS has a thread today that asks why the Governor hasn't done more to right the ship.

It's not the Governor, it's not Cheek, it's not our moderately improving academic standards, it's not Hart, it's not homosexual marriage, or the President, or Hurricane Sandy, or solar flares. Our problems are much closer to the source than that. The blame game has resulted in reaches of astronomical proportions.
 
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What we are seeing here is a fanbase with more anger than sense. They will blame anyone they possibly can. TOS has a thread today that asks why the Governor hasn't done more to right the ship.

It's not the Governor, it's not Cheek, it's not our moderately improving academic standards, it's not Hart, it's not homosexual marriage, or the President, or Hurricane Sandy, or solar flares. Our problems are much closer to the source than that. The blame game has resulted in reaches of astronomical proportions.

Sadly, perspective is an acquired trait.
 
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#49
My first year was 06, and that was around the time that they really started to pick up the requirements.

I will say that Fort parties and the bar scene circa 04 (when I would visit) through 06 were far better than the scene when I graduated. I'd say that every year it got exponentially worse than the year before.

The height of all of this was 2008 when there were alerts for robberies and violent crime nearly every other night, yet the police were more absorbed with arresting party-goers than effectively patrolling.

Another thing that I noticed was that the student section for both football and basketball became less and less raucous. Many will point to winning, but the students that made up those sections was way different in 2005-2006 than it was in 2010-2011. Even now when I go to games it seems tame.

I was in the student section for the 2006 Cal, Florida, and LSU games, and I felt that environment was far wilder than this year's Florida game.

That's not to say that the student section isn't just as wild or fun as any other student section in the SEC or nation for that matter. I remember far more whiskey and insanity than I see now though.

I hope I don't rub people the wrong way, because I don't necessarily agree with threadstarter, just posting my observations from my time there. Which is to say that the wild party environment of Knoxville as a college town has died down a bit.

I can't be that upset though because I feel that I received a great education from UT, and I enjoyed my time on The Hill.
 
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