Showing respect for players

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#778
kev20 said:
So, what is the consensus on here? We don't boo, ever? Instead, we clap and cheer regardless of the play? We take a Fullmer attitude of clapping our hands on every inept play that occurs? (This seems more detrimental to me.) When was the last time you heard ANY fan base cheer for their team when a major mistake was made?
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And now comes the "pretend arguments". Nobody has advocated cheering on bad plays, and yet here you are pretending that someone has. All I've suggested is discipline: My role in the stadium is to make things blisteringly loud when the opponent's offense is on the field and hopefully enjoy the game while I'm there. If things go south, I personally refuse to *help* the opposing team. Sure, I groan when the INTs happen, I will piss and moan to myself about how a certain player is sucking, but personally I'll just save up my frustration and take it out on the other team instead. Is that so crazy?

With all of that said, though, I understand it is completely futile to expect fans not to boo their own team in the SEC. People would prefer to vent their frustrations for no other reason than to make themselves feel better since they feel like their "money was wasted" (even in games like this one where we are huge underdogs). There is nothing any of us can do about this. People are going to boo, and that's that.

That doesn't mean I can't laugh at some of these rationalizations, though. Again, we should at least be honest about why we're doing it rather than pretending there is some noble goal to booing. We do it because we want to vent our frustrations and we lack the discipline necessary to do otherwise. There is absolutely no benefit to us doing it other than making ourselves feel better, and to be fair, that is pretty juvenile.
 
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#781
#781
The most amazing thing to me about it is that I never noticed any booing until maybe last season. I am sure it was there at times, but not on this large a scale. The majority of the fan base is finally fed up.
 
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emainvol said:
I try not to do it, but getting caught up in the heat of the moment I did this weekend. Heck, I rarely even boo the other team, or the refs.
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I understand the compulsion to boo, just don't understand why people expect it to bring about anything but bad results.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
I understand the compulsion to boo, just don't understand why people expect it to bring about anything but bad results.
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Well, somewhere in these guys ramblings they were correct, it is just venting frustration. However, you don't have to be a inbred redneck to vent frustration.
 
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I agree that you should not boo college players but tell that to the 100K fans that pay good money to come to K-town and pay the ticket prices. Is it bad to expect Tenn to SHOW UP for a game against the Gators?
 
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emainvol said:
Well, somewhere in these guys ramblings they were correct, it is just venting frustration. However, you don't have to be a inbred redneck to vent frustration.
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No, you don't have to be a redneck at all. You just have to care more about venting to make yourself feel better than you care about doing what's best for the team.

This is why we suggest folks like Manning wouldn't do it. And regarding Manning being a "theoretical" example, you are reaching. There is no way someone can "prove a negative" in the first place, so that is silly to ask for. But if you want evidence that points to this, here you go:

When the Colts hit some rough spots in 2003 and 2004 seasons, Manning was hilarious: The home fans would start booing when things started going wrong and Manning would wave / flap his arms to the crowd to tell them to shut the hell up so his team could hear his cadence. That is classic Manning, right there. But hey, don't take my word for it:
Colts 20, Ravens 10 - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

“I can’t get over the crowd booing like that,” said Manning, last season’s league co-MVP. “I hope those were Baltimore fans, because that’s what you’re supposed to do.”​

I think it is safe to say I know his stance on homers booing and the discipline he expects out of quality fans, and good for him to not let the homers off the hook like that. These days, everyone is scared as hell to alienate the fan base, but he told it like it was.
 
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AirGibson said:
No, you don't have to be a redneck at all. You just have to care more about venting to make yourself feel better than you care about doing what's best for the team.

This is why we suggest folks like Manning wouldn't do it. And regarding Manning being a "theoretical" example, you are frankly talking about things that you do not know about. When the Colts hit some rough spots in 2003 and 2004 seasons, Manning was hilarious: The home fans would start booing when things started going wrong and Manning would wave / flap his arms to the crowd to tell them to shut the hell up so his team could hear his cadence. That is classic Manning, right there. But hey, don't take my word for it:
Colts 20, Ravens 10 - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
“I can’t get over the crowd booing like that,” said Manning, last season’s league co-MVP. “I hope those were Baltimore fans, because that’s what you’re supposed to do.”
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I think it is safe to say I know his stance on homers booing and the discipline he expects out of quality fans, and good for him to not let the homers off the hook like that. These days, everyone is scared as hell to alienate the fan base, but he told it like it was. In any event, I think the ball is in your court to prove that "Manning would boo his home team" since there is no way anyone can prove a negative to begin with other than pointing to evidence.
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That's an awful example you tried to pull out to support your case. That was silly for them to boo in that case. They were winning the game and running the clock out. I doubt you will hear anyone boo in neyland if we were just closing out a 10 point victory against a rival.
 
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#796
Still trying to figure out why it matters so much to these people what the other fans do?
 
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AirGibson said:
No, you don't have to be a redneck at all. You just have to care more about venting to make yourself feel better than you care about doing what's best for the team.

This is why we suggest folks like Manning wouldn't do it. And regarding Manning being a "theoretical" example, you are reaching. There is no way someone can "prove a negative" in the first place, so that is silly to ask for. But if you want evidence that points to this, here you go:

When the Colts hit some rough spots in 2003 and 2004 seasons, Manning was hilarious: The home fans would start booing when things started going wrong and Manning would wave / flap his arms to the crowd to tell them to shut the hell up so his team could hear his cadence. That is classic Manning, right there. But hey, don't take my word for it:
Colts 20, Ravens 10 - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

“I can’t get over the crowd booing like that,” said Manning, last season’s league co-MVP. “I hope those were Baltimore fans, because that’s what you’re supposed to do.”​

I think it is safe to say I know his stance on homers booing and the discipline he expects out of quality fans, and good for him to not let the homers off the hook like that. These days, everyone is scared as hell to alienate the fan base, but he told it like it was.
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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! You are an idiot and that was a horrible example!
 
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orangetd88 said:
That's an awful example you tried to pull out to support your case. That was silly for them to boo in that case. They were winning the game and running the clock out. I doubt you will hear anyone boo in neyland if we were just closing out a 10 point victory against a rival.
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There have been *many* times this has happened in Colts games (including ones where he has lost) and he always does the same thing: He encourages the crowd to shut up so they can hear his cadence. If you've watched him regularly in the last 5 years, you've seen this, so I have no idea why you'd contest this.

Now, I will shoot myself in the foot here and say that, as a small child, I have read that he used to pitch in and boo Archie's team if they were sucking. But I guess that's kind of the point - It's a juvenile action and I won't hold it against an 8 year old :)
 
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AirGibson said:
There have been *many* times this has happened in Colts games (including ones where he has lost) and he always does the same thing: He encourages the crowd to shut up so they can hear his cadence. If you've watched him regularly in the last 5 years, you've seen this, so I have no idea why you'd contest this.

Now, I will shoot myself in the foot here and say that, as a small child, I have read that he used to pitch in and boo Archie's team if they were sucking. But I guess that's kind of the point - It's a juvenile action and I won't hold it against an 8 year old :)
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Now you are just not making any sense at all. He does all of things to quiet them down from CHEERING.

We are talking about BOOING...and again, your example was an awful one.

Please, stop trying make your point. It's not working.
 
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