Shooting in El Paso

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ClearwaterVol said:
My personal opinion is the powers that be, in an effort to raise the number of mass shootings, have started including gang related shootings.. I think the school, mall, movie, concert shootings have a different motivation than criminal enterprise killings.
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I'm sure the motivation matters to the dead people who were just at the wrong place at the wrong time.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
The argument is about fear of inanimate objects. My point was there are many inanimate objects that can hurt or kill you in the hands of evil people. Someone can easily pick up a knife in a Walmart and slit your throat.

Guns have the potential to kill people and have other uses besides killing people
Pressure cookers have the potential to kill people and have other uses besides killing people
Taxis have the potential to kill people and have other uses besides killing people
Knives have the potential to kill people and have other uses besides killing people

If you want to argue the likelihood of being killed or injured by any of those then I can get on board with that but discounting it because you don't like the comparison, well, frankly that's lazy. Although I think if you compared death by drunk driving statistics, I venture to guess you'd most likely be killed by a drunk driver than in a mass shooting.

Just because you don't perceive it as a valid argument doesn't mean it's not valid. It is.
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It's not my perception hoss, it's literally a logical fallacy. Your issue is with false syllogism, not my ability to recognize what you are doing. I didn't make the rule, I'm just pointing out that you're breaking it by invoking an error in reasonsoning by neglecting the rules of logic.

No one, literally no one is arguing that inanimate objects can't be used to kill others. I think we'd all capitulate that a pencil is capable of piercing the trachea. The debate however is about how to stop people from using firearms to shooting people en masse. This is the argument that's being had, not taxi's, pressure cookers or pencils.

This really shouldn't be that hard to grasp. I've spelled it out for you, linked it for you and spoon fed the reasoning behind your error - it may be time for you to phone a friend.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Open carry is about image, not practicality. Those yahoos might as well be wearing Ferrari jackets.
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My neighbor across the street open carries. I clown him all the time about it but he thinks because it's open he looks like a bad ass and no one will mess with him. I'm just waiting on him to come home one day and say, man I was paying for my gas and some dude walked right up behind me and took my gun and ran straight out the door.
 
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SLICKYINC said:
My neighbor across the street open carries. I clown him all the time about it but he thinks because it's open he looks like a bad ass and no one will mess with him. I'm just waiting on him to come home one day and say, man I was paying for my gas and some dude walked right up behind me and took my gun and ran straight out the door.
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no one should know you carry until it's too late for them to react to the business end of your street justice.
 
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DynaLo said:
Define older individuals..would that "older individuals" include the folks on the internet from back in the BB days?

You know, the very same ones that made it possible for y'all to grow up on it.
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Not trying to offend any bluehairs on here, just something I've noticed with older relatives and individuals I work with. Let's just say that they are the ones most likely caught by the security traps that Infosec sends out lol. There is a general naivety about the internet for users that haven't been immersed with it their whole lives.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
Having it hang on your back like that in public isn't smart IMO.
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The age old having the right to do something vs the common sense to know better.

I can still hear my fathers reply from a driving lesson he was giving me when somebody cut me off. I was screeching that I was in the right to which he replied “Son, there’s a lot of dead right people in grave yards too. Pat the hell attention to what’s going on around you!”
 
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Septic said:
no one should know you carry until it's too late for them to react to the business end of your street justice.
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Tactically speaking I'd have to agree...I see precious little upside to being a prioritized target if somebody wanted to start trouble.
 
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utvolpj said:
No white stallion just think it's pretty funny since you've been making nonsense points all day. You make big claims but can back up nothing.
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Your post are incoherent. Not sure why your even arguing that Luther is a socialist by any means necessary.
 
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SLICKYINC said:
You got smoke bombs and flash grenades on your belt too?
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Nope , just don’t make me chose between giving you up or saving my family especially if I know you are carrying . I’m always aware of my surrounding , always . That includes driving which I do for a living . People that just sit down in public and don’t look around and take in their surroundings has always seemed a little silly to me . To each his own though .
 
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Septic said:
It's not my perception hoss, it's literally a logical fallacy. Your issue is with false syllogism, not my ability to recognize what you are doing. I didn't make the rule, I'm just pointing out that you're breaking it by invoking an error in reasonsoning by neglecting the rules of logic.

No one, literally no one is arguing that inanimate objects can't be used to kill others. I think we'd all capitulate that a pencil is capable of piercing the trachea. The debate however is about how to stop people from using firearms to shooting people en masse. This is the argument that's being had, not taxi's, pressure cookers or pencils.

This really shouldn't be that hard to grasp. I've spelled it out for you, linked it for you and spoon fed the reasoning behind your error - it may be time for you to phone a friend.
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That's not what this has been about. At all! It's about feeling threatened by someone open carrying. That's what started it all. It was about fear of someone that had a gun in public. Maybe you should go back and read.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Your post are incoherent. Not sure why your even arguing that Luther is a socialist by any means necessary.
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lawgator1 said:
Open carry is about image, not practicality. Those yahoos might as well be wearing Ferrari jackets.
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Caring a holstered pistol is one thing. I agree though about the guys slinging rifles over their shoulders. It looks ridiculous.
 
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I wonder why our resident libs focus more on the motives of this shooter yet ignore who the OH shooter supported.
 
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volfanjustin said:
I wonder why our resident libs focus more on the motives of this shooter yet ignore who the OH shooter supported.
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My focus on motive extends to the Ohio shooter. These people have terroristic motives. They want to be remembered and have people be in fear to do normal things.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
That's not what this has been about. At all! It's about feeling threatened by someone open carrying. That's what started it all. It was about fear of someone that had a gun in public. Maybe you should go back and read.
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LOL, I see.

Is it your assertion then that people shouldn't be threatened by open carry because taxis and pressure cookers are "open"?
 
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MercyPercy said:
Not trying to offend any bluehairs on here, just something I've noticed with older relatives and individuals I work with. Let's just say that they are the ones most likely caught by the security traps that Infosec sends out lol. There is a general naivety about the internet for users that haven't been immersed with it their whole lives.
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Wow, hardly a blue hair..lol

There's a general naivety/gullibility about the internet for users who grew up on it as well.

Have you actually seen some of the crap they post simply by believing an engineered media clip or an agenda driven headline without looking for the truth behind it? It's the I saw it on the internet so it must be true mentality.
 
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