Serious question: is hostessgate an issue anymore?

[kptvol]

And it's a ridiculous stat. For instance, it includes Tubberville when we happened to catch him three times with his, and probably, the SEC's best team of the decade.

You talking about that 2003 Auburn team that lost five games? Or the one that got Tubby fired in 2008? I'm fairly sure we didn't play the 2004 team three times.

 

[tvolsfan]

As I've said many times, we have a proper idolatry of the Neyland Era. However, the historical circumstances under which Fulmer had his run make many of his accomplishments more impressive, IMHO. I would still consider Neyland - because he was properly innovative and groundbreaking - our greatest coach (wins too, of course).

However, the greatest run in Tennessee history belongs to the Phil Fulmer era.

Maybe, but it was the second greatest run in the conference at the time.

 

[utgibbs]

Tuberville might have had something to do with that. That is what good coaches do.

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Actually, didn't we compare Tubby against those "mediocre" coaches Fulmer "feasted" upon? Oh right, not so hot.

The contradictions will never, ever end.

 

[utgibbs]

Maybe, but it was the second greatest run in the conference at the time.

Which makes the achievement all the greater, actually.

 

[VolDad]

Actually, didn't we compare Tubby against those "mediocre" coaches Fulmer "feasted" upon? Oh right, not so hot.

The contradictions will never, ever end.

Since when did the transitive property start working in sports? The only Tuberville/Fulmer stat that matters is head to head. Tuberville beat Fulmer.

But since you want to compare let’s compare Tubby to some of the 6 Coaches Fulmer had a losing record against.
Saban 3-3
Spurrier 3-1
Meyer 2-0

 

[utgibbs]

Since when did the transitive property start working in sports? The only Tuberville/Fulmer stat that matters is head to head. Tuberville beat Fulmer.

But since you want to compare let’s compare Tubby to some of the 6 Coaches Fulmer had a losing record against.
Saban 3-3
Spurrier 3-1
Meyer 2-0

Tommy Tubberville:

Ole Miss = 12 - 20 in the SEC

Auburn = 52 - 30 in the SEC

Fulmer = 98 - 34 in the SEC

In the same darn era, at a time when no one will reasonably argue (as today) the West > East, Tubberville managed to lose in two fewer seasons more SEC games than Fulmer lost in his whole career (I know it was 52, blah, blah, blah).

Please reconcile.

[Note: I believe Tubby is a real good coach. I think he was robbed of the BCS NC].

 

[VolDad]

Tommy Tubberville:

Ole Miss = 12 - 20 in the SEC

Auburn = 52 - 30 in the SEC

Fulmer = 98 - 34 in the SEC

In the same darn era, at a time when no one will reasonably argue (as today) the West > East, Tubberville managed to lose in two fewer seasons more SEC games than Fulmer lost in his whole career (I know it was 52, blah, blah, blah).

Please reconcile.

[Note: I believe Tubby is a real good coach. I think he was robbed of the BCS NC].

Once again the stat that matters is head-to-head. How did he do against Fulmer? Oh I forgot; those wins don’t count because he had better coached teams with more talent.

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[utgibbs]

Once again the stat that matters is head-to-head. How did he do against Fulmer? Oh I forgot; those wins don’t count because he had better coached teams with more talent.

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And now your decent into absurdity has been shown to be absolute. Absurdity, in fact, may just be your HQ.

To suggest you would be happier with a coach who, in two fewer seasons in the exact same era, in the weaker half of the conference managed 15 extra SEC losses (in TWO fewer years) is pretty much the definition of absurd. And to suggest his teams were "more talented" or "better coached" over this time period, given this damning indictment, is, well, beyond absurd.

Thanks for proving me Right as Rain. :hi:

Game, Set, and Match.

 

[VolDad]

....And to suggest his teams were "more talented" or "better coached" over this time period, given this damning indictment, is, well, beyond absurd.

Thanks for proving me Right as Rain. :hi:

Game, Set, and Match.

Stop lying and you will not have to remember what you said. You are the one claiming the stat that Fulmer had a losing record against 6 SEC Coaches when he was fired is ridiculous because Tubby had better teams.

And it's a ridiculous stat. For instance, it includes Tubberville when we happened to catch him three times with his, and probably, the SEC's best team of the decade.

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[tvolsfan]

Which makes the achievement all the greater, actually.

You've posted a lot of nonsensical jibberish, but this has to be one of the most laughable.

 

[kptvol]

Coaching at Ole Miss is really pretty
much the same as inheriting a pre-built SEC contender.
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[tvolsfan]

Coaching at Ole Miss is really pretty
much the same as inheriting a pre-built SEC contender.
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The Auburn team he inherited didn't win a whole bunch of game the previous year, either.

 

[Bleed-Orange]

This thread has confused me. Initially, utgibbs made perfect sense. I didn't understand why people were taking shots at him . . . Until the whole CPF debate at which point his previously rational thoughts turned to mush. Weird thread.
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[utgibbs]

You've posted a lot of nonsensical jibberish, but this has to be one of the most laughable.

Only those accustomed to posting a lot of ridiculousness, I'm afraid.

To the real world outside the back door crowd, it makes perfect sense. To overcome and achieve during a time when your top rival is also at the zenith of their success makes the achievement all the greater.

 

[utgibbs]

Tuberville might have had something to do with that. That is what good coaches do.
.

Since when did the transitive property start working in sports? (this is one of the most ridiculous of your litany of ridiculous points). The only Tuberville/Fulmer stat that matters is head to head. Tuberville beat Fulmer.

But since you want to compare let’s compare Tubby to some of the 6 Coaches Fulmer had a losing record against.
Saban 3-3
Spurrier 3-1
Meyer 2-0

Tommy Tubberville:

Ole Miss = 12 - 20 in the SEC

Auburn = 52 - 30 in the SEC

Fulmer = 98 - 34 in the SEC

In the same darn era, at a time when no one will reasonably argue (as today) the West > East, Tubberville managed to lose in two fewer seasons more SEC games than Fulmer lost in his whole career (I know it was 52, blah, blah, blah).

Please reconcile.

[Note: I believe Tubby is a real good coach. I think he was robbed of the BCS NC].

I see you are having trouble keeping up and reconciling.

I'll be waiting, but believe me, I won't be holding my breath. I'd die.

 

[VolDad]

I see you are having trouble keeping up and reconciling.

I'll be waiting, but believe me, I won't be holding my breath. I'd die.

And the Worlds IQ average would increase.

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[utgibbs]

And the Worlds IQ average would increase.

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And you would be wrong again, and there is plenty of proof from the real world on that account too.

GoF Consistency! :good!: Y'all would pass any quality control department. Six sigma enthusiasts should study the GoF for real world models of perfect consistency. 100% wrong all the time.

Like I said, I'm not going to hold my breath while you reconcile Tubby's record with Fulmer's. Another application of an above average IQ at work.

In fact, this is simply another nail in Hambone's coffin: Tubby was available for hire![/B]

Game, Set, and Match.

 

[kptvol]

Epic fail of the bold function.

I'm still waiting for a single poster on VN, or any other message board for that matter, to measure you up and regard you as anything but a fool. You ever wonder why you're one of the only people that agrees with Vegas Vol, yet he refuses to acknowledge your existence?

 

[VolDad]

And you would be wrong again, and there is plenty of proof from the real world on that account too.

GoF Consistency! :good!: Y'all would pass any quality control department. Six sigma enthusiasts should study the GoF for real world models of perfect consistency. 100% wrong all the time.

Like I said, I'm not going to hold my breath while you reconcile Tubby's record with Fulmer's. Another application of an above average IQ at work.

In fact, this is simply another nail in Hambone's coffin: Tubby was available for hire![/B]

Game, Set, and Match.

Still living in the 90's old green belt one (which explains your Fulmer love). Come into the 21st Century with the rest of us.

 

[BigPapaVol]

Only those accustomed to posting a lot of ridiculousness, I'm afraid.

To the real world outside the back door crowd, it makes perfect sense. To overcome and achieve during a time when your top rival is also at the zenith of their success makes the achievement all the greater.

Overcome what? Our rival wasn't at their zenith. That would come ten years later when we were at the bottom of the trash heap.

As to overcoming, I again ask what was overcome. We didnt get close to winning our statistical share of the games. I know you and a couple others don't want to a knowledge or atrocious gameplanning as a problem, but Spurrier will be the first to do so.
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[utgibbs]

Overcome what? Our rival wasn't at their zenith. That would come ten years later when we were at the bottom of the trash heap.

As to overcoming, I again ask what was overcome. We didnt get close to winning our statistical share of the games. I know you and a couple others don't want to a knowledge or atrocious gameplanning as a problem, but Spurrier will be the first to do so.
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Is that the Spurrier who coaches at USCe?

How many titles they have in their trophy cabinet?

 

[tvolsfan]

Overcome what? Our rival wasn't at their zenith. That would come ten years later when we were at the bottom of the trash heap.

As to overcoming, I again ask what was overcome. We didnt get close to winning our statistical share of the games. I know you and a couple others don't want to a knowledge or atrocious gameplanning as a problem, but Spurrier will be the first to do so.
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The opposing coaching staff of the 2001 SEC championship game would probably concur.

 

[utgibbs]

Epic fail of the bold function.

I'm still waiting for a single poster on VN, or any other message board for that matter, to measure you up and regard you as anything but a fool. You ever wonder why you're one of the only people that agrees with Vegas Vol, yet he refuses to acknowledge your existence?

I've never acknowledged his existence. But he makes some great points with data.

If "acknowledging" means "replying to your posts" he's done that with several of mine.

However, I'm certainly not looking for vindication or acknowledgment. My posts are among the most read and replied to on VN. That may change tomorrow. :dunno:

I can confess openly, I only need acknowledgment and vindication from you, KPT.

 

[utgibbs]

Overcome what? Our rival wasn't at their zenith. That would come ten years later when we were at the bottom of the trash heap.

As to overcoming, I again ask what was overcome. We didnt get close to winning our statistical share of the games. I know you and a couple others don't want to a knowledge or atrocious gameplanning as a problem, but Spurrier will be the first to do so.
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Please reconcile with the real world outside the back door.

 

[Tenacious D]

Overcome what? Our rival wasn't at their zenith. That would come ten years later when we were at the bottom of the trash heap.

As to overcoming, I again ask what was overcome. We didnt get close to winning our statistical share of the games. I know you and a couple others don't want to a knowledge or atrocious gameplanning as a problem, but Spurrier will be the first to do so.
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Hell, he did just that - not only as it was occurring, but both publicly and repeatedly.