Serious question for the OU fans on the board

[Forever151]

As I've said multiple times. I truly believe Tennessee is the better team. But I have also reiterated that Oklahoma just poses a bad matchup for Tennessee. Oklahoma's strengths on Offense go up against Tennessee's weaknesses, as Tennessee's strengths on offense play into Oklahoma's strengths. Just looking at the entirety of the game, Tennessee's home field advantage and comfortableness will make up for any weakness. Oklahoma will have to be sharp to win against Tennessee, very sharp.

Reason's why OU and their fans are confident is because they think having a new offense changes anything. But nothing changes the game of the football. You win in the trenches, and I think it is even there when looking at both sides of each team. The difference between the two is that Oklahoma will utilize the short passing game, and Tennessee may or may not. Whoever makes the adjustments to carry-on long, sustaining drives will evidently win the game IMO. Which is why I think Oklahoma will win in a nail-biter, securing a win late with a Mixon-Perine touchdown to put them up by two possessions. I have 38-27 OU.

You are going to find every kind of fan on any board. There is tons of confident OU fans, like there is tons of wait-and-see pessimistic OU fans. Ala the same thing with Tennessee fans on this board. This game is going to be an all-out war, and no one knows how it is going to pan out.

Love reading and getting your perspectives on this game. Win or loss, you guys run a very quality board, and have a incredibly bright future. Trust in Butch Jones, the guy is running a clean and prosperous program.

As I said earlier, I expect the score to be 38-27 Sooners for those who missed it.

Great post but pass defense isn't our weakness . Last year we were number 5 in the SEC in pass defense

 

[meover]

Dude, just go back to the Dust Bowl. You are the biggest troll in the history of Volnation. And by the way, Stoops is 5-4 against the SEC in his career.....hardly an earth-shattering statistic.

5-4...Not bad. Isn't your coach 5-11 vs the SEC?


I get it, you think we're trying to be dicks but I'm really just trying to be clever. It's kind my M-O.

 

[VFL-82-JP]

Great post but pass defense isn't our weakness . Last year we were number 5 in the SEC in pass defense

That has become a common OU fan error, to look at the BGSU game and think they understand our defense. It would be like us looking at their Akron game and concluding that Perine and Mixon can't run out of the backfield. Both would be really bad assumptions.

The OU coaches aren't making that mistake. Defensive coordinator Mike Stoops said very clearly in an interview this week that the Vols pass defense is very good. He can see past the rough sketch of an opening game. Dunno why many of the OU fans can't. *shrug* It will be their surprise, come tomorrow.

 

[AWR90]

Go back to landthieves. Why are you here, trying to be rational when on LT you're talking about how you have a lot of money on OU winning big?

I did bet on OU for the first time ever for this game. I have a good feeling about it. Doesn't mean I don't think Oklahoma can lose man...

 

[ntxVOL]

As I've said multiple times. I truly believe Tennessee is the better team. But I have also reiterated that Oklahoma just poses a bad matchup for Tennessee. Oklahoma's strengths on Offense go up against Tennessee's weaknesses, as Tennessee's strengths on offense play into Oklahoma's strengths. Just looking at the entirety of the game, Tennessee's home field advantage and comfortableness will make up for any weakness. Oklahoma will have to be sharp to win against Tennessee, very sharp.

Reason's why OU and their fans are confident is because they think having a new offense changes anything. But nothing changes the game of the football. You win in the trenches, and I think it is even there when looking at both sides of each team. The difference between the two is that Oklahoma will utilize the short passing game, and Tennessee may or may not. Whoever makes the adjustments to carry-on long, sustaining drives will evidently win the game IMO. Which is why I think Oklahoma will win in a nail-biter, securing a win late with a Mixon-Perine touchdown to put them up by two possessions. I have 38-27 OU.

You are going to find every kind of fan on any board. There is tons of confident OU fans, like there is tons of wait-and-see pessimistic OU fans. Ala the same thing with Tennessee fans on this board. This game is going to be an all-out war, and no one knows how it is going to pan out.

Love reading and getting your perspectives on this game. Win or loss, you guys run a very quality board, and have a incredibly bright future. Trust in Butch Jones, the guy is running a clean and prosperous program.

As I said earlier, I expect the score to be 38-27 Sooners for those who missed it.

The Vols do not expect to come out and pound the rock against OU. We are not Alabama circa 2012. This has been one of the more frustrating points when discussing this game with the Sooners. Our WR corpse is at least top 3 in the SEC. Expect a balanced attack from the Vols on Saturday.

 

['Boro-vol]

Take off the hate glasses. At the end of the day, coaching is a job. Bob Stoops doesn't bleed Oklahoma but his kids were raised here and he's repeatedly said that he wants to be here until they graduate high school. He's mentioned that he would be very interested in moving around when that happens. You are really grasping at straws there.

The hate glasses are only for his overactive mouth. Outside of that he's fairly irrelevant. I don't much care if he comes to the SEC or not, we already have Stoops SR. coaching at USCjr. Just as insecure and cranky, just older with floppier bingo wings.

 

[AWR90]

That has become a common OU fan error, to look at the BGSU game and think they understand our defense. It would be like us looking at their Akron game and concluding that Perine and Mixon can't run out of the backfield. Both would be really bad assumptions.

The OU coaches aren't making that mistake. Defensive coordinator Mike Stoops said very clearly in an interview this week that the Vols pass defense is very good. He can see past the rough sketch of an opening game. Dunno why many of the OU fans can't. *shrug* It will be their surprise, come tomorrow.

I think us Ou fans are going off of the weaknesses we saw in the games last week. Your pass defense looked suspect and our Oline looked very inexperienced. If we are talking about last year OU had one of the best rushing attacks in the nation but all the TN fans say we cant rush :dunno:. So you guys have to look at it from both angles. This OU team is nothing like last year same goes for the UT team.

 

[meover]

That has become a common OU fan error, to look at the BGSU game and think they understand our defense. It would be like us looking at their Akron game and concluding that Perine and Mixon can't run out of the backfield. Both would be really bad assumptions.

The OU coaches aren't making that mistake. Defensive coordinator Mike Stoops said very clearly in an interview this week that the Vols pass defense is very good. He can see past the rough sketch of an opening game. Dunno why many of the OU fans can't. *shrug* It will be their surprise, come tomorrow.

Secondary doesn't play much of a role in the 5 yard completion game. We throw to a RB most likely being covered by a LB then run it through a hole opened by another WR blocking your DBs.

 

[terrypedigo]

Its time to put up or shut up, most of our fans myself included have ran there damn mouth all summer about how bad we are going to kick there azz and after last Saturday some myself included have second thought about the game, not going to back down now we TENNESSEE will kick there azz back to Norman Oklahoma come Saturday night by at least 14 points, dont jump on the wagon after we give them a azz whipping:bottom:Oklahoma is just another team that will get steam rolled by the BIG ORANGE on our way to a special season, we wont win them all but we will take care of Boomer Sooner and shut Strikers mouth shut, thats whats going to happen in KNOXVILLE,TENNESSEE, BIG ORANGE ROLLS 37-23, and we TENNESSEE FANS DONT HAVE TO TAKE BS anymore.:yahooGOING TO BE FIRE WORKS SATURDAY NIGHT IN K-TOWN.:fireworks::fireworks::fireworks::fireworks::fireworks:

 

[jordan4vols]

much like you guys tout your "entirely different team" aspect, so is OU. It's a different offensive scheme. We have 2 feature backs this year(3 really). Perine will NOT see the amount of carries he saw last season....and I'm happy about that. Less carries = less yards = less injury.

But to judge his performance against Akron is misleading, b/c he had limited carries due to the offense. He'll get his touches tho, just not all on runs.

Again, this is a serious question and is not meant to offend, but Tenn has been through the "scheme change" and had its fair share of awful offensive line play or play in the trenches in general which in the NFL, SEC, BIG 12, PAC 12 you name it is the sole reason many games are won and lost. Last year OU controlled the trenches from both sides, better offensive line than our defensive line and better defensive line than our offensive line.

Now fans can say what they want, but when you run for 100 yards on 33 carries against Akron your offensive line is getting no push. I saw many times from your game the tackle not even get a hand on the end and forgive me for not knowing names but the interior line getting blown up.

Akron wore down as the game wore on and OU won comfortably. I don't think that Tenn will wear down defensively against the OU offensive line.

It seems to me that OU fans would worry because it is not the short passing game that hurt UT, but the deep ball. When adding in crowd noise to the offensive snap count, normally there is a slower release from watching the ball snap for false starts etc, and with that added I don't know if Mayfield will have the time to throw.

Bowling green returned the second most starts along the o line in the NCAA if I remember correctly. Are they all NFL players, no of course not but having experience is a lot in college football.

I think the inexperience on the o line is what ends up hurting OU and helping UT to a victory.

 

[meover]

The hate glasses are only for his overactive mouth. Outside of that he's fairly irrelevant. I don't much care if he comes to the SEC or not, we already have Stoops SR. coaching at USCjr. Just as insecure and cranky, just older with floppies bingo wings.

So you're upset that he "trashed" your conference? The guy was asked a question about another conference's strength and he responded that they're top heavy. He basically said that you should look at each team individually instead of grouping them all together.

While he's certainly right (there are numerous "bad" teams in the SEC each year as well as some mediocre teams), the SEC has shown to be the best conference. That will probably never come out of his mouth, if that's what you're wanting.

IMO, what makes the SEC the best is that they have a rotation of top tier teams and not just the same ole one every year.

 

[DeepSpringsVol]

OU is not any good. They got destroyed by Clemson in the bowl game.

We will win by at least 3 touchdowns on sat. Their QB is a freakin Walk on for crying out loud

Their RB's are overrated. Their Oline sucks, and Boob Stoops is way past his prime.

Easy victory imo:rock:

Bowl game results, have nothing to do with next season.

 

['Boro-vol]

So you're upset that he "trashed" your conference? The guy was asked a question about another conference's strength and he responded that they're top heavy. He basically said that you should look at each team individually instead of grouping them all together.

While he's certainly right (there are numerous "bad" teams in the SEC each year as well as some mediocre teams), the SEC has shown to be the best conference. That will probably never come out of his mouth, if that's what you're wanting.

IMO, what makes the SEC the best is that they have a rotation of top tier teams and not just the same ole one every year.

It makes no difference to me that he trashes the conference...its why. He's obviously insecure about it, and always has been. I'm not a "conference" guy. Other teams in the conference winning does not benefit Tennessee. I dislike his sniping attitude and condescending mouth. That's all.

Defend him all you want....you should. He's your coach and has done an admirable job since he's been there. Nationally, though, he's viewed as a jerk....and as such he seems to represent a number if your fanbase pretty accurately.

 

[meover]

Again, this is a serious question and is not meant to offend, but Tenn has been through the "scheme change" and had its fair share of awful offensive line play or play in the trenches in general which in the NFL, SEC, BIG 12, PAC 12 you name it is the sole reason many games are won and lost. Last year OU controlled the trenches from both sides, better offensive line than our defensive line and better defensive line than our offensive line.

Now fans can say what they want, but when you run for 100 yards on 33 carries against Akron your offensive line is getting no push. I saw many times from your game the tackle not even get a hand on the end and forgive me for not knowing names but the interior line getting blown up.

Akron wore down as the game wore on and OU won comfortably. I don't think that Tenn will wear down defensively against the OU offensive line.

It seems to me that OU fans would worry because it is not the short passing game that hurt UT, but the deep ball. When adding in crowd noise to the offensive snap count, normally there is a slower release from watching the ball snap for false starts etc, and with that added I don't know if Mayfield will have the time to throw.

Bowling green returned the second most starts along the o line in the NCAA if I remember correctly. Are they all NFL players, no of course not but having experience is a lot in college football.

I think the inexperience on the o line is what ends up hurting OU and helping UT to a victory.

Akron didn't wear down. We decided to stop trying what wasn't working and go with something that was.... ya'know... adapting, being flexible and stuff.

I will be the first to tell you that we will not be able to win this game if we must rely on the OL run blocking. They might win some battles, but more often than not, they will lose. OL pass blocking was decent.. what we were running kind of masked any deficiencies there.

 

[Vol_is_Lyfe18]

I did bet on OU for the first time ever for this game. I have a good feeling about it. Doesn't mean I don't think Oklahoma can lose man...

But you said you have Oklahoma winning big. Hardly implies you think they could lose.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Owenfi3lddreams is a very classy poster and has been a great guy to communicate with in a respectful manner. He has knowledge and a great perspective about football and about the history of our programs. Respect.

Some of these young brash cats that have showed up in the last day or so have the class of a child molester. Why come to an opposing teams board to stir up trouble with strangers? Get a hobby...or a life. Good riddance as I know you will not be back after the game tomorrow.

GO VOLS. WIN EM ALL.

 

[Jasooner]

Again, this is a serious question and is not meant to offend, but Tenn has been through the "scheme change" and had its fair share of awful offensive line play or play in the trenches in general which in the NFL, SEC, BIG 12, PAC 12 you name it is the sole reason many games are won and lost. Last year OU controlled the trenches from both sides, better offensive line than our defensive line and better defensive line than our offensive line.

Now fans can say what they want, but when you run for 100 yards on 33 carries against Akron your offensive line is getting no push. I saw many times from your game the tackle not even get a hand on the end and forgive me for not knowing names but the interior line getting blown up.

Akron wore down as the game wore on and OU won comfortably. I don't think that Tenn will wear down defensively against the OU offensive line.

It seems to me that OU fans would worry because it is not the short passing game that hurt UT, but the deep ball. When adding in crowd noise to the offensive snap count, normally there is a slower release from watching the ball snap for false starts etc, and with that added I don't know if Mayfield will have the time to throw.

Bowling green returned the second most starts along the o line in the NCAA if I remember correctly. Are they all NFL players, no of course not but having experience is a lot in college football.

I think the inexperience on the o line is what ends up hurting OU and helping UT to a victory.

lol....yeah we know our O-line didn't look good against Akron, BUT again it's a different offense in general. He's simply not gonna get carries like he did last year. If it took him 19 carries to get 100 yrds last year, he might only get 10 by comparison in this offense. The only way we'll run the ball unmercilessly is if the opponent doesnt stop it.

I think we will use some different lineups from what you saw against Akron in order to run the ball, if it proves to be difficult

 

[james_govols]

There is no doubt we have questions at oline. I think, like you guys, we are looking for some answers this weekend as far as what we can expect this season and how bad the weaknesses really are. I think most OU fans recognize that. All that being said, I think you're reading too much into both teams' opening games. You say you called off the dogs and could have scored a lot more points, but we did the same. Overall, I think both teams will look a lot different this weekend on both sides of the ball.

If you spend all week reading the boards then it's easy to make a case for both teams being overconfident. That's the message board world for you. I'm not ready to talk any trash until I've seen some more of my team. Besides, I'm almost as excited about the match up of two of college footballs greatest ever programs as I am the result.

Boomer.

Hey, I'm a big Arsenal fan too.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

I like ice cream too.

Now let's kick some Sooner butt.

GO VOLS. WIN EM ALL.

 

[trjtrjtrj]

I'm a Sooner fan that thinks OU will likely win. I think that the Vols are a better team this year, and that Dodds makes their offense more potent than Worley. I also have a ton of respect for Hurd and the shifty one (Kamara?).

Yet I think history is a good way to project, and I think history favors the Sooners. The Sooners are probably better this year than last; Stoops has an excellent record in big games (there are a few exceptions); Oklahoma is very familiar with the Leach-style air raid offense (after all, Leach was at Oklahoma) and they know how to adjust it for the big stage.

I think both teams have areas that need to be shored up (I wouldn't put either team in the top 10 at this point). But my best guess -- and I do acknowledge that this could be easily be wrong -- is that OU wins by around 31 to 21.

Looking forward to a good game and prayers that no one gets hurt on either team;
Boomer Sooner!

 

[peppervol]

Listen man, every OU fan is not knowledgeable of what they're looking at beyond the final score, highlights, and stats. This is actually true of MANY football fans in general...including your own.

I've seen Tenn fans giving a "scouting" report on Perine, how to pronounce his name, and what kinda player he is......YET he ran for 70+ yards against Tenn last year.
I guess some of you missed that game, huh?

I'm not super confident in the way we played against Akron in some aspects. But at the same time, other areas looked good and it's still the first game with a new offensive scheme and new defensive scheme. There's no delegated pre-season in cfb to sharpen up.

My prediction for Sat., if we can run the ball, even moderately, we have a good chance to be successful b/c that will open up the passing game. That and limited turnovers.

Defensively is my main concern. Passes over the middle resulting in YAC, and Dobbs running on 3rd and 6-7's, etc. We HAVE to get off the field on 3rd down. The misdirection runs to the edges with Hurd/Kamara running at our CBs. That's a concern.

As an OU fan, this game is a toss up to me.

And every OU player or coach has mentioned Dobbs at some point this week with respect as someone to stop and theyre all super excited about playing in Neyland. On a personal note, it's probably my fav stadium outside of Oklahoma Memorial.

I'm not sure why you Tenn fans are attacking every OU fan on this board b/c your fans have been posting comfortably on our board for over a year. But do what you do.

This is one VFL that attacks noone. It's not my nature, unless, I'm attacked first. Agreed, Jasooner, every fan base has their share of jerks and the Volnation is no exception. What works for me is to simply ignore the ignorant. All your points are valid and I think your analysis is a good one for a Sooner victory. I happen to think you will not be able to run to set up your passing game, but, hey, that's just my opinion and nothing more. I, too, think it will be a close game and maybe one of the season's best. The vast majority of us Vol fans will be happy to welcome you folks to, what I consider, hallowed ground; beloved Neyland Stadium. Thank you for your comment. My dear Dad started taking me to Neyland in 1956. I was 11 and I turned 70 in June. I hope you and your friends have a safe trip to and from, and prepare to be amazed at our storied venue. I, for one, welcome you anytime to our board Thank you for your informed posts and may the best team win....

 

[ainge10heisman]

I'm a Sooner fan that thinks OU will likely win. I think that the Vols are a better team this year, and that Dodds makes their offense more potent than Worley. I also have a ton of respect for Hurd and the shifty one (Kamara?).

Yet I think history is a good way to project, and I think history favors the Sooners. The Sooners are probably better this year than last; Stoops has an excellent record in big games (there are a few exceptions); Oklahoma is very familiar with the Leach-style air raid offense (after all, Leach was at Oklahoma) and they know how to adjust it for the big stage.

I think both teams have areas that need to be shored up (I wouldn't put either team in the top 10 at this point). But my best guess -- and I do acknowledge that this could be easily be wrong -- is that OU wins by around 31 to 21.

Looking forward to a good game and prayers that no one gets hurt on either team;
Boomer Sooner!

It's Dobb's for crying out loud. That was a horrible first post BTW. The post in its entirety was extremely Terry Pedigo-esque. All in all, it was a huge, miserable fail.

 

[Volview]

Bowl game results, have nothing to do with next season.

except this time :rock:

 

[Biopsyman]

Jason White....C'MON Heisman

 

[Sandvol]

lol....yeah we know our O-line didn't look good against Akron, BUT again it's a different offense in general. He's simply not gonna get carries like he did last year. If it took him 19 carries to get 100 yrds last year, he might only get 10 by comparison in this offense. The only way we'll run the ball unmercilessly is if the opponent doesnt stop it.

I think we will use some different lineups from what you saw against Akron in order to run the ball, if it proves to be difficult

You guys are like one more recruiting class away from mediocrity aren't you? After this year it should be it.