Second round of stimulus; gamesmanship

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USAFgolferVol said:
No, most proud Trump supporters....mainly evangelicals.....that large group is this country's biggest disgrace...72% of that group believe Trump to be honest
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Those people were voting for him regardless. This EO wasn’t about them.

Or are you moving the goalposts?
 
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utvolpj said:
Then let people go back to work. That's the easiest and cheapest solution
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Unless your business has already closed permanently. My wife is currently still working (retail management) but they 1st shutdown doomed her store. She will be job hunting in a couple of months, just in time for the holidays. My brother in law worked at Domtar in Kingsport and they just announced they aren't opening until 2023. And my sister is 6 months pregnant.

Just saying, its easy to say "let everyone go back to work", but a lot of people don't have a job to go back to.
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
No, most proud Trump supporters....mainly evangelicals.....that large group is this country's biggest disgrace...72% of that group believe Trump to be honest
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That’s not his target bc those people are already voting for him....I find it hilarious that you all believe voters will realize what he is doing when you think voters fell for Russian Facebook memes.
 
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volbeast33 said:
That’s not his target bc those people are already voting for him....I find it hilarious that you all believe voters will realize what he is doing when you think voters fell for Russian Facebook memes.
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Mic Drop!
 
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volbeast33 said:
That’s not his target bc those people are already voting for him....I find it hilarious that you all believe voters will realize what he is doing when you think voters fell for Russian Facebook memes.
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Lately he's playing to his base, which isn't going to help him come November.
 
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hog88 said:
They were voting for him anyway, again you can’t see the forrest for the trees.
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You're funny. Who do you think he's playing to when he makes such an outrageously false claim as "Biden is again't God"

You're delusional about your info level
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
You're funny. Who do you think he's playing to when he makes such an outrageously false claim as "Biden is again't God"

You're delusional about your info level
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This conversation is only about his EO. Nothing else, stop moving the goalposts.
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
BS....there's actually a poll which I was referring to in my post. You're just making it up as you go
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Posting polls from sites or media that hate Trump doesn't make it factual.

So basically you find polls and stories that fit the liberal narrative. Essentially making it up as you go.

Also I was commenting on honesty or lack there of. Take the border wall for instance. Plenty of videos out there of democrats calling for a border wall that are now vehemently against it. Get that plank out of your eye my friend.
 
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MontyPython said:
Trump's "Executive Orders" appear to be smoke and mirrors.

Only 1 of his actions is actually an EO, the remaining are memoranda.

Expect a legal challenge for any re-purposing funds already approved by the Congress.

Net/Net result:

* No more federal unemployment funds (a la the prior $600/wk), as this will be tied up in courts until (probably) after the elections;
* No more PPP for small businesses; and
* No more ban preventing landlord evictions of non-paying tenants.

In sum, Trump has removed the net from under the trapeze act. Barring any unannounced Fed action, we'll now start to feel the true effects of a sharp recession.
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I guess that’ll stop the complaining about spending though right? I’m just kidding. They all spend like there no tomorrow and Trump is not fiscally conservative in the least. I think all of these people pretty equally look bad. The bottom line is they couldn’t come to an agreement on how to help the American people due to political posturing all the way around and we ended up with a mess. No one escapes blame on this nor shares more or less of the blame, Trump included. They all failed and an F is an F.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Unless your business has already closed permanently. My wife is currently still working (retail management) but they 1st shutdown doomed her store. She will be job hunting in a couple of months, just in time for the holidays. My brother in law worked at Domtar in Kingsport and they just announced they aren't opening until 2023. And my sister is 6 months pregnant.

Just saying, its easy to say "let everyone go back to work", but a lot of people don't have a job to go back to.
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Unfortunately true but the only way to get more available jobs is to let people go back to work and get things moving again.

Sorry about your wife and family.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Unless your business has already closed permanently. My wife is currently still working (retail management) but they 1st shutdown doomed her store. She will be job hunting in a couple of months, just in time for the holidays. My brother in law worked at Domtar in Kingsport and they just announced they aren't opening until 2023. And my sister is 6 months pregnant.

Just saying, its easy to say "let everyone go back to work", but a lot of people don't have a job to go back to.
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Which is why everything should have opened much sooner once the virus was more understood. Do you support those politicians who favored full shutdowns? If so you should rethink the effect your votes have on others
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Unless your business has already closed permanently. My wife is currently still working (retail management) but they 1st shutdown doomed her store. She will be job hunting in a couple of months, just in time for the holidays. My brother in law worked at Domtar in Kingsport and they just announced they aren't opening until 2023. And my sister is 6 months pregnant.

Just saying, its easy to say "let everyone go back to work", but a lot of people don't have a job to go back to.
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Im sorry for your brother in law and wife. I live in the KPT area, and when the news came out about Domtar my jaw hit the floor.
 
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