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5 and 2 Sunday and Monday games gets the record to 51 and 12. It was a very strange week Bama almost lost to Ole Miss and I was wanting it to happen badly even though I picked Bama to win I would gladly forsake a win to see them lose to hapless Ole Miss. Their players put out little effort unless the opponent is Tennessee then they are ready to go seems we have that effect on everyone even the top teams. I also took Arkansas but was wanting Missouri to win and they had it if they had anyone that could've gotten the ball to half court the press killed them and so one choked away great comeback by Arkansas. I had us losing by 11 to SC but of course 21 turnovers later and shot deficit of 17 we lose by 21. So next up Miss St big game for us at home less than a 50 percent we'll win and I expect turnovers again will be the reason so here are the picks for Thursday.

MIss St at Tennessee I expect all the experts say we lose and I should say it also but I think I'll take a shot and say Tennessee 69 Miss St 65

Alabama at Kentucky this could be an interesting game as Kentucky is a one trick pony and when Howard doesn't play they can be inept. I don't know if Alabama will come to play or not. Hard one for me Kentucky 65 Alabama 64

Missouri at Georgia Missouri is not a very good team Georgia is a decent team Georgia 69 Missouri 62

South Carolina at Arkansas no upset here South Carolina 85 Arkansas 70

There is only four games this Thursday let's hope we can win and tie for second place.
 

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I think MSST wins. I’m just not seeing improvements from the Lady Vols. We struggle with securing the ball and moving on offense. MSST lost to SC by 2, Stanford by 5 and West Virginia by 6. So I’m hoping UT can split TAMU and Arkansas because I don’t see a win. Hope I’m wrong. I think we have a better chance beating TAMU than Arkansas. I think the Razorback offense will give us fits.
 
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No way Tennessee even comes close to beating Miss St. First, they make way to many mistakes and second they are way to offensively inconsistent and if anyone thinks that will change overnight is kidding themselves. Miss st is a great defensive team as well and expect as much pressure from them as UCONN put on the vols in the second half of that game. I am not even sure Tennessee can get to 50 points in this game..
 

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I dunno. Missouri handled Arky pretty well.
Arkansas won, even with Dungee stinking it up. Other players stepped up.

If Arkansas has Dungee, Tolefree and Ramirez on their games at the same time, and there have been games this season where that happened, they will be a tough outing for anyone.
 

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Every game can be a win if you find some way to play an efficient game. We probably want do that we give away to many possessions to stay with the best teams. I'm not counting us out against Miss St they are not as good as they were, but I agree that it will take a decent effort 21 turnovers and were dealing with the same thing as past games. A high shot differential in the favor of the opponent is not the way to win against the better teams. It works against the likes of Vandy and others because you shoot a lot higher field goal percentage but when your playing these teams their defense is gonna hold you down so you must keep everything even in possessions and shot attempts at least to have a chance.
 
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Arkansas won, even with Dungee stinking it up. Other players stepped up.

If Arkansas has Dungee, Tolefree and Ramirez on their games at the same time, and there have been games this season where that happened, they will be a tough outing for anyone.
Oh, Arkansas is a dangerous team, no doubt. My point was that they had to go to OT to beat Mizzou, and that was only because Mizzou missed a FT at the end of reg.

I believe we're a better defensive team than Mizzou. Our problem is...well, you know our main problem.

It should be a close, tough game.
 
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Every game can be a win if you find some way to play an efficient game. We probably want do that we give away to many possessions to stay with the best teams. I'm not counting us out against Miss St they are not as good as they were, but I agree that it will take a decent effort 21 turnovers and were dealing with the same thing as past games. A high shot differential in the favor of the opponent is not the way to win against the better teams. It works against the likes of Vandy and others because you shoot a lot higher field goal percentage but when your playing these teams their defense is gonna hold you down so you must keep everything even in possessions and shot attempts at least to have a chance.
The biggest worry with MSST is their ability to draw charges and create turnovers. They can foul Burrell/Horston out in the first half just from offensive fouls alone. If Tennessee plays under control and limits turnovers (especially live ball turnovers), they have a real chance. I think that Key can make things difficult for Carter inside, and the MSST guards are not long ball specialists. As long as Danberry doesn't go off like she did last year, I think this is a winnable game. The xfactors are the MSST 3-ball (Bibby, Mathuru and AEH) and probably Kushkituah for Tennessee. They need to be relentless inside, because I think Carter will be able to go all game and Key will need to come out for breathers. The play can't drop off when KK comes in.
 

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The biggest worry with MSST is their ability to draw charges and create turnovers. They can foul Burrell/Horston out in the first half just from offensive fouls alone. If Tennessee plays under control and limits turnovers (especially live ball turnovers), they have a real chance. I think that Key can make things difficult for Carter inside, and the MSST guards are not long ball specialists. As long as Danberry doesn't go off like she did last year, I think this is a winnable game. The xfactors are the MSST 3-ball (Bibby, Mathuru and AEH) and probably Kushkituah for Tennessee. They need to be relentless inside, because I think Carter will be able to go all game and Key will need to come out for breathers. The play can't drop off when KK comes in.
Everything is based on not turning it over and getting an equal amount of shots at the basket for a change. SC 69 shots to our 52 no way to win. Last night Georgia got something like 43 shots to their 69 if the game is anything like that we don't have a chance. The shot differential has been the largest problem for Tennessee this season. The defense is better but were defending to much of the game because of bad decisions and turnovers. I hope just once we can play a competent game for forty minutes.
 

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The biggest worry with MSST is their ability to draw charges and create turnovers. They can foul Burrell/Horston out in the first half just from offensive fouls alone. If Tennessee plays under control and limits turnovers (especially live ball turnovers), they have a real chance. I think that Key can make things difficult for Carter inside, and the MSST guards are not long ball specialists. As long as Danberry doesn't go off like she did last year, I think this is a winnable game. The xfactors are the MSST 3-ball (Bibby, Mathuru and AEH) and probably Kushkituah for Tennessee. They need to be relentless inside, because I think Carter will be able to go all game and Key will need to come out for breathers. The play can't drop off when KK comes in.
Key needs to stay on the floor that`s the only she makes mistakes but she will learn from them.
 

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A personal speculation is that Kellie is also looking to prevent possible wear-and-tear injuries by limiting and/or spreading minutes, although the bench has shortened considerably since the season began.

Nice to have Jaiden back available. Wish we could utilize her back-door cuts more.
 

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The biggest worry with MSST is their ability to draw charges and create turnovers. They can foul Burrell/Horston out in the first half just from offensive fouls alone. If Tennessee plays under control and limits turnovers (especially live ball turnovers), they have a real chance. I think that Key can make things difficult for Carter inside, and the MSST guards are not long ball specialists. As long as Danberry doesn't go off like she did last year, I think this is a winnable game. The xfactors are the MSST 3-ball (Bibby, Mathuru and AEH) and probably Kushkituah for Tennessee. They need to be relentless inside, because I think Carter will be able to go all game and Key will need to come out for breathers. The play can't drop off when KK comes in.
The game between South Carolina and Mississippi State was won at the free throw line, where the Gamecocks made 13 of 19 while the Bulldogs made 10 of 12. The completion % is of no importance here: it is the number of completions. Miss. State score 69 points from the field (30 from 2-pt. range, 3 from 3-pt.), compared to the Gamecocks scoring 68 (28 from the 2, 4 from the 3). So the 3 extra points from the charity line explains the 2-point win.

Both teams had a solid FG completion % upwards of 50%, and were even in rebounding (38 to 35 in the Gamecocks' favor). The Bulldogs relied on isolation dribble-drives by their guards all game long, and the Gamecocks were somehow unable to stop them. They used the zone very sparingly. Meanwhile, the Gamecocks had solid ball distribution and spread the scoring as they tend to do this season: the Gamecocks had 17 assists to the Bulldogs only having 5 dimes. Both teams were equal in turnovers with USC having one more than MSU 11-10, but 9 of those 11 turnovers were from 9 Bulldog steals.

This will be a serious issue for the Lady Vols, as strong perimeter defense and guard play is a Vic Shaefer trademark, So Horston and Massengill will have their work cut out for them. But if the Lady Vols use their great post presence and defense, and protect the penetration into the paint better than the Gamecocks did (they didn't do so well at that), they could contain the Bulldog offense. But again, need to protect the ball - if Miss State steal the ball all game long, those Lady Vols bigs won't be able to get back in time to help.

In regards to Key: Boston surprised Dawn Staley with her shot-blocking skills, and to start the season Boston was a ball-bludgeoning beast, but she was also picking up fouls in a pretty decent rate. The lone loss the Gamecocks have this season to Indiana, was the one game Boston fouled out, and was in foul trouble all game long.

Not sure if the staff talked with her or not, or if it was something she chose on her own, but as the season progressed, Boston has not been as focused on going after shot attempts as she was earlier in the season. Before the SEC schedule began, Boston had collected 41 blocks, for nearly a 3.2 bpg average, and averaged 12.6 ppg and 7.6 rebounds. In SEC play, she's raised her numbers to 13.7 ppg and 10.2 rpg, but her block average has dipped to 1.9 bpg. A a result, her fouls were 2.6 per game prior to SEC play, but has dropped to 1.8 per game since, which is remarkable when you consider how physical the SEC typically is.

Perhaps Key should focus more on not so much going after shots as much as just presenting herself as a presence - she's tall with great length, and has other long players on her team playing alongside her: focus more on controlled team defense, distract opponents, and let her teammates clean up. She'll perhaps reduce the fouls and stay on the floor longer in games.

The Arkansas game for South Carolina is one to watch here, IMO. The Gamecocks narrowly beat the Hogs in Colonial Life Arena earlier in the season 91-82: the Gamecocks were able to score pretty much at will thanks to Boston dominating the glass - she had 25 rebounds in the game, and the Gamecocks out-rebounded the Hogs 63-33 overall. Arkansas won't provide much of a challenge in the paint, but they are a strong offensive team and shoot the ball well from the perimeter. Strong games from the 3-pt. arc and the FT line by the Gamecocks helped their cause in the 1st game. Boston being available for the game is still a question, and Amihere will still be in Ostend, Belgium with the rest of her Canadian National Team.

The Gamecocks were up by 21 pts at the start of the 4th Qtr., and Staley usually tends to bring in her bench in those occasions and she did, and they extended the lead to 25 early on on back-to-back scores from Amihere. Then Alexis Tolefree hits 4 of her 5 3-pt. shots from there on, score 14 of her 22 pts for the game, and the Hogs out-score the Gamecocks 29-17 to make the final score close. That's how explosive the Razorbacks are offensively.

If Howard doesn't play it will hobble Kentucky at home against Alabama, but the Tide have yet to beat a Q1 opponent in 6 tries, and UK is always tough at home. I think the Wildcats win this.

Missouri almost escaped with a upset win over Arkansas at home, and UGA has played both Texas A&M and Mississippi St. tight before losing on the road their last 2 games. This game will be in Athens, and I think UGA wins this....
 

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USC may be without Boston for the Ark game, if she plays it might be limited and only as needed. No info from SC on that at all which makes me lean towards thinking they may need to keep her off the court if possible for the UCONN game...if so, that changes things a bit for USC in the Ark game as another post player (Amihere) is currently away playing for her national team (Canada). Staley may need to adjust the lineup and try something new which is always worrisome. I think USC will still beat Ark even if Boston sits, but it gets a whole lot more interesting.

Edit: Just saw Lurker posted basically same info above, apologies
 
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USC may be without Boston for the Ark game, if she plays it might be limited and only as needed. No info from SC on that at all which makes me lean towards thinking they may need to keep her off the court if possible for the UCONN game...if so, that changes things a bit for USC in the Ark game as another post player (Amihere) is currently away playing for her national team (Canada). Staley may need to adjust the lineup and try something new which is always worrisome. I think USC will still beat Ark even if Boston sits, but it gets a whole lot more interesting.

Edit: Just saw Lurker posted basically same info above, apologies
Even without Boston or Amihere, SC should be fine. Arkansas doesn't have size. All this means is that Saxton, MHH and Grisette will all play alot of minutes, and all three are pretty good shot blockers so it's not like it's a free lane to the basket.
 
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Even without Boston or Amihere, SC should be fine. Arkansas doesn't have size. All this means is that Saxton, MHH and Grisette will all play alot of minutes, and all three are pretty good shot blockers so it's not like it's a free lane to the basket.
Agreed! I’m guessing everyone is forgetting that Saxton had 19 and 10 in Fayetteville last year and missed the SEC tournament game as well and I thought that was a big reason why we lost last year.
 

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USC may be without Boston for the Ark game, if she plays it might be limited and only as needed. No info from SC on that at all which makes me lean towards thinking they may need to keep her off the court if possible for the UCONN game...if so, that changes things a bit for USC in the Ark game as another post player (Amihere) is currently away playing for her national team (Canada). Staley may need to adjust the lineup and try something new which is always worrisome. I think USC will still beat Ark even if Boston sits, but it gets a whole lot more interesting.

Edit: Just saw Lurker posted basically same info above, apologies
Dungee has been in a shooting slump but Tolefree has been playing well. Missouri had them on the ropes, but they pulled it out at the end
 

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5 and 2 Sunday and Monday games gets the record to 51 and 12. It was a very strange week Bama almost lost to Ole Miss and I was wanting it to happen badly even though I picked Bama to win I would gladly forsake a win to see them lose to hapless Ole Miss. Their players put out little effort unless the opponent is Tennessee then they are ready to go seems we have that effect on everyone even the top teams. I also took Arkansas but was wanting Missouri to win and they had it if they had anyone that could've gotten the ball to half court the press killed them and so one choked away great comeback by Arkansas. I had us losing by 11 to SC but of course 21 turnovers later and shot deficit of 17 we lose by 21. So next up Miss St big game for us at home less than a 50 percent we'll win and I expect turnovers again will be the reason so here are the picks for Thursday.

MIss St at Tennessee I expect all the experts say we lose and I should say it also but I think I'll take a shot and say Tennessee 69 Miss St 65

Alabama at Kentucky this could be an interesting game as Kentucky is a one trick pony and when Howard doesn't play they can be inept. I don't know if Alabama will come to play or not. Hard one for me Kentucky 65 Alabama 64

Missouri at Georgia Missouri is not a very good team Georgia is a decent team Georgia 69 Missouri 62

South Carolina at Arkansas no upset here South Carolina 85 Arkansas 70

There is only four games this Thursday let's hope we can win and tie for second place.

A must win for Alabama tonight against Kentucky to keep there tournament hopes alive ?
 
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A must win for Alabama tonight against Kentucky to keep there tournament hopes alive ?
After the way they played against OIe Miss you wonder if they have packed it in. Kentucky is a one trick pony and she is injured right now if she is not playing they are vulnerable to lose very interesting game for sure.
 

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54 and 13 for the season.

Todays Sunday game

Texas A&M vs Miss St This looks like another Miss St win Miss St 68 Texas A&m 59

Georgia at Florida this game is a tossup matchup I usually take the home team Florida 67 Georgia 65

Auburn at Alabama Bama should win at home although they don't have much of home court advantage Alabama 70 Auburn 62

Kentucky at Arkansas Kentucky is still without Howard so Arkansas 80 Kentucky 77

Ole Miss at Vanderbilt Vandy should win one today Ole Miss surprised a couple times still no win Vandy 69 Ole Miss 60

I think I prefer for A&M to lose today and no matter someone has to lose the Kentucky Arkansas matchup cause looks like Tennessee is playing for third this season.
 
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54 and 13 for the season.

Todays Sunday game

Texas A&M vs Miss St This looks like another Miss St win Miss St 68 Texas A&m 59

Georgia at Florida this game is a tossup matchup I usually take the home team Florida 67 Georgia 65

Auburn at Alabama Bama should win at home although they don't have much of home court advantage Alabama 70 Auburn 62

Kentucky at Arkansas Kentucky is still without Howard so Arkansas 80 Kentucky 65

Ole Miss at Vanderbilt Vandy should win one today Ole Miss surprised a couple times still no win Vandy 69 Ole Miss 60

I think I prefer for A&M to lose today and no matter someone has to lose the Kentucky Arkansas matchup cause looks like Tennessee is playing for third this season.
We lost to Ky. , we still have to play Ark. and TA&M .... We want Ky. To lose as many games as possible! Arkansas has 4 loses and they still have to play Miss. St. and us ... so beating Ark will assure us above them ! TA&M still has to play us and USC and Miss.St. Again a win against them puts us ahead of Ark. and TA&M come tournament time ! Agree with us in third and USC and Miss. St. 1 & 2.
 

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We lost to Ky. , we still have to play Ark. and TA&M .... We want Ky. To lose as many games as possible! Arkansas has 4 loses and they still have to play Miss. St. and us ... so beating Ark will assure us above them ! TA&M still has to play us and USC and Miss.St. Again a win against them puts us ahead of Ark. and TA&M come tournament time ! Agree with us in third and USC and Miss. St. 1 & 2.
I agree and I think Arkansas beats them. Ky still has SC plus if they lose today. They are vulnerable every game they play until Howard gets back.
 

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