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I haven’t watched an episode until tonight and was reminded why I shouldn’t. They listed the top 5 quarterbacks and Joey wasn’t on either guys list.

At the end of the segment Dari asked who leads the SEC in passing yards. Roman answered Joey Aguilar. Then he said but that’s the offense.

Joey has threw for at least 200 yards in every game of his career. He threw for 6760 yards in 2 seasons at App State but I guess that was CJH offense too.


Sorry for the rant but the SEC bias is always evident.
 
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Where do they come up with this crap?

I saw where top Heisman contenders include Ty Simpson, Marcel Reed, and Go Diego Go, of all people.

What in the world? Aguilar is ranked higher than all of them in all passing stats. And if you only include conference games, Pavia is like 13th. What an idiotic take.

Pavia is about to run out of house money. He’s hard to take, what a cocky insufferable player.
 
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ETSU VOL said:
I haven’t watched an episode until tonight and was reminded why I shouldn’t. They listed the top 5 quarterbacks and Joey wasn’t on either guys list.

At the end of the segment Dari asked who leads the SEC in passing yards. Roman answered Joey Aguilar. Then he said but that’s the offense.

Joey has threw for at least 200 yards in every game of his career. He threw for 6760 yards in 2 seasons at App State but I guess that was CJH offense too.


Sorry for the rant but the SEC bias is always evident.
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But "that's the offense" doesn't hold water because it wasn't there the last 2 seasons. CJH can scheme guys open all day, and often does, but have to have a QB to make the throws.
 
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ETSU VOL said:
I haven’t watched an episode until tonight and was reminded why I shouldn’t. They listed the top 5 quarterbacks and Joey wasn’t on either guys list.

At the end of the segment Dari asked who leads the SEC in passing yards. Roman answered Joey Aguilar. Then he said but that’s the offense.

Joey has threw for at least 200 yards in every game of his career. He threw for 6760 yards in 2 seasons at App State but I guess that was CJH offense too.


Sorry for the rant but the SEC bias is always evident.
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I don't see how anyone watches this channel unless UT is playing live. I can't stand other SEC teams (except Auburn) and the excessive goober-smooching of UAT disgusts me. Plus seeing these other conference teams that I loathe put on a pedestal makes me gag. The only time I see it is if I'm in a sports bar.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
But "that's the offense" doesn't hold water because it wasn't there the last 2 seasons. CJH can scheme guys open all day, and often does, but have to have a QB to make the throws.
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Yeah you can’t just attribute the offense to Aguilar’s success. We had a couple guys with “arm talent” who couldn’t run the offense. It isn’t fool proof.
 
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No respect bc we have beaten zero quality teams. We got a chance to fix that to end the year.
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you make a true point, but what hes done this year, given he was only on campus for 3 months before the season started is pretty impressive, and he should at least be in top 5 right now.

Now, to your point. If he leads us to 10-2 despite the near Sal Sunseri level defense we have, theres no reason he shouldn't be thought of as one of the top 2 or 3 QBs in the conference.
 
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I feel like the gap between the numbers Hooker and Aguilar put up and the numbers that Milton and Iamaleava put up should illustrate that the system isn't enough to account of QB stats on its own. The latter two aren't even bad QBs, but Hooker and Aguilar both played well in different systems and put up gaudy numbers in very different iterations of Heupel's system.
 
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Where do they come up with this crap?

I saw where top Heisman contenders include Ty Simpson, Marcel Reed, and Go Diego Go, of all people.

What in the world? Aguilar is ranked higher than all of them in all passing stats. And if you only include conference games, Pavia is like 13th. What an idiotic take.

Pavia is about to run out of house money. He’s hard to take, what a cocky insufferable player.
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Dollar tree version of manziel
 
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Commentators and analysts are always going to knock players in Heupel's offense because those great college qbs, rbs, and wrs don't go on to do much in the NFL. He gets great production out of his players in college but that's often the peak for the player. The ones that do go to the NFL end up washouts, backups, or maybe contributors at best.

After a while they start looking at it as "his system of offense" vs the player being coached up to excel. So is it he isn't working with NFL quality college players and his offense makes them look better than they really are? Or is it more his offense doesn't prepare players for NFL football and they struggle to adapt? It's not just one or the other, but I'm guessing 70-30 talent vs NFL prep.

I don't think it's always deserved though. Don't take this a just a bunch of Heupel hate.
 
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ETSU VOL said:
I haven’t watched an episode until tonight and was reminded why I shouldn’t. They listed the top 5 quarterbacks and Joey wasn’t on either guys list.

At the end of the segment Dari asked who leads the SEC in passing yards. Roman answered Joey Aguilar. Then he said but that’s the offense.

Joey has threw for at least 200 yards in every game of his career. He threw for 6760 yards in 2 seasons at App State but I guess that was CJH offense too.


Sorry for the rant but the SEC bias is always evident.
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Yep I heard Roman say that, at Bama it’s Ty but with us it’s the offense. I thought it was a dumb comment. GBO
 
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Joey has gotten plenty of flowers from lots of pundits this year. I don’t feel like he has been slighted. That Bama pick 6 has folks cooled on him a bit, but he has a chance to change the perception back. Win this weekend and he’s back in the conversation, I think.

Edit: and if there is a reason to blame for Joey not getting more accolades, look no further than our defense, and the effect on the entire narrative of our team. Their foibles are dragging everything down.
 
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Anyone who wants to run their mouth about "the system" can pound sand. Nico Iamaleava was in "the system" and he threw for 9 touchdowns in conference play - four of which came against Vanderbilt. Screw that noise. Stats are stats. So what if Heupel's good at offensive planning? What a pathetic excuse.

Do these studio stooges ever say it's "the system" that made Alabama quarterbacks great -- the "system" being all the five star linemen and receivers Saban put around them every year? No? Of course not. And Harper is just another ultra-biased Bammer jerk running his mouth. Getting on the SECN waving his cigar around with that smirk on his face. Hell, half the SEC Network had cigars, I'm sure. Between Bammers and Gators, I don't know who else even gets representation on the damn thing. It's disgusting that we have to get our team's SEC Network coverage from representatives of our rivals, who want nothing more than to see us lose.
 
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