Scores for 2012 Season

#77
#77
bleedorange0037 said:
In 2010, having a coach who wasn't even fully committed to being their coach probably played a role. Last year, they were in the midst of a coaching change. Normally it's the second year under a coaching staff where you tend to see the most improvement, and UF should fall squarely into that trend this year. It's not like they haven't been recruiting with the best of them. Aside from the 2011 class where recruiting between the two was essentially a push, UF has consistetly crushed us on the recruiting trail for the past 5 years. For people to claim that UF is less TALENTED this coming season is beyond absurd. Maybe we're more experienced at some positions, but aside from WR and QB, I'm not sure where we're more talented.
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On one hand you say that we have been crushed in recruiting yet you say because we didn't win last year CDD sucks. On one hand you say the 2nd year a new coach wins (don't know where that one comes from) however you fail to take into account that is with a decent team to start with and CDD had nothing. You admit up until last year our recruiting sucked for 5 years. I am beginning to think you just like to complain. You try to argue a point from both sides.....it just doesn't work!!
 
#78
#78
GoBigOrange86 said:
I don't see us beating Georgia, USCe, or Alabama (definitely not Alabama). Florida, NC State, Mizzou, Mississippi State are all toss-ups. The rest we should win. So between 5-7 and 9-3. That's right. I gave a range. A wide one.
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Probably the most accurate post yet.
 
#80
#80
TNGlen said:
On one hand you say that we have been crushed in recruiting yet you say because we didn't win last year CDD sucks. On one hand you say the 2nd year a new coach wins (don't know where that one comes from) however you fail to take into account that is with a decent team to start with and CDD had nothing. You admit up until last year our recruiting sucked for 5 years. I am beginning to think you just like to complain. You try to argue a point from both sides.....it just doesn't work!!
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Twice during Saban's career, his teams made the jump from mediocrity to conference champs in his second year on the job. Urban Meyer won a NC in his second year at UF. I was just saying that the second year under a new coach and a new system is often when you will see the greatest improvement. UF will be in their second year under Muschamp this coming season, so it wouldn't surprise me to see them take a big step forward.

Also, it's possible for a team to show progress without actually winning games. I've NEVER said that Dooley should have won more than 6 or 7 games last year. UF, UGA, USCjr, Alabama, LSU and Arkansas all looked like losses to me before the season. It was the way they lost the games that proved to me how much Dooley sucks. He failed to make a decent halftime adjustment for the entire season, didn't have the team ready to play against UK, and lost his cool with Simms in the Alabama game and wasted Worley's redshirt. Add to that, his fellow coaches don't really seem to respect him, how else do you explain the mass exodus this year of guys leaving for equal or lesser positions at other schools? Same thing goes for his players, but then again, constantly throwing players under the bus to excuse away your own failures isn't going to command a lot of respect. Throw in the fact that no matter what crisis arises, he always chooses to simply not speak on the problem, causing UT to end up with egg on its face in the media, and you've just got a guy who has no business coaching in the SEC. But, he couldn't even win in the WAC, so what did people really expect?
 
#81
#81
bleedorange0037 said:
In 2010, having a coach who wasn't even fully committed to being their coach probably played a role. Last year, they were in the midst of a coaching change. Normally it's the second year under a coaching staff where you tend to see the most improvement, and UF should fall squarely into that trend this year. It's not like they haven't been recruiting with the best of them. Aside from the 2011 class where recruiting between the two was essentially a push, UF has consistetly crushed us on the recruiting trail for the past 5 years. For people to claim that UF is less TALENTED this coming season is beyond absurd. Maybe we're more experienced at some positions, but aside from WR and QB, I'm not sure where we're more talented.
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I totally agree that their talent level has been stellar and consistent. I just don't agree that with that talent that Muschamp could not have been able to produce a much more successful team. It isn't like he installed a system that these stellar athletes couldn't adapt to. Basically I think we agree on the situation, but disagree on the potential outcome.
 
#82
#82
beavbullvol said:
We've had multiple "How Many Games Will TN Win?" threads, but I haven't seen any that predicts scores in those games. I'll say 10-2 and here are the scores:

NCSt: 35-21 UT

DaRick U: 55-14 UT

UF: 31-24 UT

Akron: 70:7 UT

Georgia: 42-35 UT

MSU: 24-21 UT

Bama: 17-14 Bama

USCe: 21-17 USCe

Troy: 41-17 UT

Mizzu: 38-31 UT

Vandy: 28-14 UT

UK: 56-10 UT


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Seems very realistic.
 
#83
#83
DjCrenshaw said:
Mizzou will have had their @$$es smacked red by the time they play the Vols. I would imagine that Mizzou will be limping into knoxville.
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^Agree.

By the time Mizzou gets to Neyland the SEC welcome mat will not only have been rolled out, it will have rolled over them.
 
#84
#84
daj2576 said:
Interesting point. But, didn't they have as much or more talent/experience the last two years? So, what caused their problems? Or to reverse the question, what has changed that should signify improvement?
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Problems? Didn't notice that UT was one of them. Shouldn't the question be, "What has happened at UT to reverse an ingrained trend?"
 
#85
#85
Ancient Reptile said:
Problems? Didn't notice that UT was one of them. Shouldn't the question be, "What has happened at UT to reverse an ingrained trend?"
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Sure, a legitimate question. However, we were speaking of the Gators, specifically. There have been a number of other posts and threads on here addressing your question of the Vols.
 
#86
#86
NCSt: 32-28 UT
Ga St: 42-10 UT
UF: 28-24 UF
Akron: 35-14 UT
Georgia: 27-21 GA
MSU: 35-28 UT
Bama: 38-21 Bama
USCe: 24-21 UT
Troy: 28-0 UT
Mizzu: 34-27 UT
Vandy: 21-7 UT
UK: 36-14 UT

I dont know why i even did this. There is no way in hell anyone on this forum can predict with the slightest confidence how this year will turn out hah
 
#87
#87
UT should have a 1-0 vs. Bye. Never can get that game on tv, should be a great game to go see. UT always wins.
 
#90
#90
daj2576 said:
Sure, a legitimate question. However, we were speaking of the Gators, specifically. There have been a number of other posts and threads on here addressing your question of the Vols.
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All right, here's an answer. The play of the UF OL was horrible last year. All reports from the spring say a vast improvement. Time will tell. The OL always had talent (starters: 4+*, 5*, 3*, 4+*, and 5*). Humphries and Dunker were early enrollees and have apparently earned spots in the rotation.

Secondary was playing very well by the end of the year. We should be two deep with SEC quality players at all four positions before talented freshman enroll in the summer.

The LBs are very good: a UT poster picked two of them for ALL SEC in a competing thread.

The first team DL is excellent. Depth could be a problem, but the JC guy will get playing time, Hunter started 3 years ago and is said to be playing his best FB and Floyd may be the best defensive player. Easley was picked in the other thread as ALL SEC.

Weaknesses include QB, WR, and lack of depth at RB; interetingly, places UT seems strong.

Pretty reasonable explanation of why UF should be better. NOt to rub it in, but I will remind you that UF has been good enough for several years.

Oh, maybe the short answer is that they have a coach who is engaged with the team and has had a year to install his system.
 
#91
#91
You have to remember that this schedule does not include Auburn, Arky, or LSU. UGA always underwhelms in years like this. I think we could easily win 10. What worries me is we always underperform against UF, but luckily we do not have to play them in the 100% humidity. This could be the yr. we finally get UF.
 
#92
#92
Florida is going to have a dysfunctional offense next year with a new OC and a new quarterback. The only way they beat us is if our passing game has a complete breakdown.
 
#93
#93
The only team I see us losing to next year for certain is Alabama. I think we can beat everyone else, but I don't think we have a legitimate shot at beating back the Tide.
 
#94
#94
On any given Sunday, even the lesser team can prevail. Coaching and game prep are always the key, but in a couple of games, there may be some clear focus points

NcSt: see t his like the Cinc. game last year. Be wary, but we have more weapons on both sides of the ball

Florida - referendum on our offense. If it clicks and holds the ball, we win - TD plus.

Georgia - referendum on Georgia and its character. If the Ga's A team arrives, will be a solid game and more of a toss-up, maybe slightly favors the puppies.

MSU - not sure of what to say. Hard for my to believe that they are that solid across both sides of the ball.

Bama - referendum on our total team: Requires top level coaching and play on both sides to keep within a single play/score.

S Car - referendum on coaching. Requires top performance by coaches.

Mo - not sure, but think that our coaches will be key.
 
#95
#95
allenrikvik said:
On any given Sunday, even the lesser team can prevail. Coaching and game prep are always the key, but in a couple of games, there may be some clear focus points

NcSt: see t his like the Cinc. game last year. Be wary, but we have more weapons on both sides of the ball

Florida - referendum on our offense. If it clicks and holds the ball, we win - TD plus.

Georgia - referendum on Georgia and its character. If the Ga's A team arrives, will be a solid game and more of a toss-up, maybe slightly favors the puppies.

MSU - not sure of what to say. Hard for my to believe that they are that solid across both sides of the ball.

Bama - referendum on our total team: Requires top level coaching and play on both sides to keep within a single play/score.

S Car - referendum on coaching. Requires top performance by coaches.

Mo - not sure, but think that our coaches will be key.
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Are we playing on the 3rd of 4th Sunday of October now?
 
#96
#96
beavbullvol said:
We've had multiple "How Many Games Will TN Win?" threads, but I haven't seen any that predicts scores in those games. I'll say 10-2 and here are the scores:

NCSt: 38-28 UT

DaRick U: 55-14 UT

UF: 24-20 UT

Akron: 59-13 UT

Georgia: 27-21 UGA

MSU: 28-20 UT

Bama: 31-17 Bama

USCe: 24-21 UT

Troy: 41-17 UT

Mizzu: 31-27 UT

Vandy: 28-14 UT

UK: 38-10 UT


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My picks. OK, really this is more a list of hopes. SC and UF could be L's
 
#97
#97
My picks based on what I see as potential:

NC State: Tennessee 42, NC State 21
Georgia State: Tennessee 72, Georgia State 0
Florida: Tennessee 27, Florida 17
Akron: Tennessee 77, Akron 0
Georgia: Tennessee 21, Georgia 20
Mississippi State: Tennessee 38, Mississippi State 17
Alabama: Tennessee 10, Alabama 27
South Carolina: Tennessee 23, South Carolina 13
Troy: Tennessee 63, Troy 9
Missouri: Tennessee 41, Missouri 31
Vanderbilt: Tennessee 49, Vanderbilt 17
Kentucky: Tennessee 52, Kentucky 9

SEC Championship Game: Tennessee 14, LSU 24

**Possible New Years Day Bowl Games: Sugar Bowl, Capital One Bowl, Outback Bowl, Cotton Bowl**

Most likely regular season losses: Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina
 
#98
#98
Rudy123 said:
I don't see a score can be predicted,however; a win or loss can usually be predicted with some certainty.


NCS Loss
UF Loss
Akron win
UGA Win
MSU win
O Bama Loss
USCe win (we should have won the last two
USCe games)
Troy Win
Missouri Loss
Vandy win
UK Win
Georgia State win



The past few UGA and USCe games, should have been ours but our luck wasn't there. 2010 USCe Simms threw interceptions and by the time Bray entered the line up, we didn't have enough time to win it.
2011 Worley played that game and the offense was conserative for him.
We should have won the UGA 2010 & 2011. This season, our luck changes and we win both of them.
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Actually, ref the last 2 games vs USCe, here is the truth:

2010: USCe rushed for 212 yards (Lattimore had 184 himself). UT rushed for 82. USCe won by two TD's.

2011: Game @ UT and USCe is without lattimore and their 2nd string RB, they start their 3rd string RB (a true frosh) who runs for 137 yards and USCe runs for sa toatal of 231 yards. UT runs for 35 yards. USCe also starting a fairly new QB and only attempts 18 passes compared to UT's 35 pass attempts. USCe wins 14-3.

I don't see where any resonable fan thinks UT was unlucky and should have won both those games. UT was outrushed a combined 443 yards to 117. That my friends is getting beat up in the trenches. That is not bad luck.:loco:
 
#99
#99
NCSt: 41-24 UT (I think this will be alot like the Cincy game last year)
Ga St: 54-10 UT
UF: 27-21 UT
Akron: 48-13 UT
Georgia: 31-28 UGA
MSU: 24-20 UT
Bama: 30-17 Bama
USCe: 24-21 USCe
Troy: 45-14 UT
Mizzu: 38-35 UT
Vandy: 21-17 UT
UK: 32-10 UT

I have us with a 9-3 regular season record with a strong showing in a bowl game to finish at 10-3.
 
#100
#100
Personally, my favorite offensive philosophy is one where the the team lines up and runs right at the defense. I know this isn't Woody Hayes/Bo Schembechler/Tom Osborne style of ball that we play now, but I liked how Tennessee used to win games back in the late 1980s/early 1990s: with a relentless ground attack that set up the pass. It worked in 1989 and 1990 when we won SEC Championships as well as major bowl games. We also were strong for years after that based on those parameters.

I do know that we went back to running the ball more so in the late 1990s/early 2000s, but not as effectively as we had done ten years earlier with the exception of 1998.
 
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