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ok, that's true. but iirc we ran the ball ok the first part of last year and didn't have much, if any, success the rest of the year. maybe I'm not remembering correctly. either way, I'm mostly curious why we can pass block but not run block.No, we didn't. Poole broke one run and probably averaged 2 yards a carry the rest of the game, and that's being generous.
ok, that's true. but iirc we ran the ball ok the first part of last year and didn't have much, if any, success the rest of the year. maybe I'm not remembering correctly. either way, I'm mostly curious why we can pass block but not run block.
thanks, this is the kind of answer I was looking for. not knowing much about the nuances of the game, I just assumed if an OL can pass block they should be able to run block too.Pass blocking requires plugging gaps, identifying rushes, fending off attacks and remaining on your feet.
Run blocking requires attacking the line, blowing open gaps and flattening a few specific defenders on their butts.
thanks, this is the kind of answer I was looking for. not knowing much about the nuances of the game, I just assumed if an OL can pass block they should be able to run block too.
This has been talked about over and over and over but we do not agressively run block we use a zone blocking scheme. As long as Chaney is the OC we are not going to have a good running game unless we get a great back with tremendous burst similar to Hardesty.
Zone Blocking Tutorial: Inside Zone Runs - Rocky Top Talk
This has been talked about over and over and over but we do not agressively run block we use a zone blocking scheme. As long as Chaney is the OC we are not going to have a good running game unless we get a great back with tremendous burst similar to Hardesty.
Zone Blocking Tutorial: Inside Zone Runs - Rocky Top Talk
Honestly, there aren't many similarities between run blocking and pass blocking except for use of the term "blocking".
Even then, there are several different theories on run blocking. True man blocking is non-existent ("you block #58 no matter where he goes"), and almost every team uses some type of zone blocking. What's generally referred to as "zone blocking" is what I call "swoop blocking", where everyone goes one way, seals gaps, and gets upfield. Swooping isn't about blasting someone off the ball, it's more about crossing the face of the defender and getting upfield. I never minded facing a scheme like that; it relies entirely on a back with good vision and acceleration, and even a mediocre defensive line can contain this type of scheme with relative ease.
The biggest difference, however, is that 99% of pass blocking is passive. It's more about catching the defender and shielding him until the ball is released; most guys are taught to cede ground as long as the defender doesn't get past the OL. This is really only effective if there's no blitz and if the QB releases the ball on time as planned. If there's a blitz, it's usually a running back who's somehow supposed to arrest the forward progress of a charging linebacker. And if the ball isn't released on time or from the spot it's supposed to be, the OL goes from sitting pretty to panicking quickly.
In summation, here is the general idea with both:
Run blocking - Fire off low, lock onto a defender, and drive him out of the hole
Pass blocking - Drop back high, slap fight a defender, and keep shadowing him while continually dropping backwards
Excellent summary.
I would add that there is a different mind-set for each and the footwork is completely different as well. I have to wonder how much time Tennessee's OL spent on the old-fashioned blocking sled. The ONLY way you move that thing is to keep your feet under you and drive low and up. In my HS days (back in the time of Giant Lizards) we had a steel seven-man sled that weighed about 1000lbs, the damned thing used old truck springs and the pads were small and always struck me as being designed more to keep our shoulder pads from breaking than anything else. As an added attraction out OL coach weighed about 300lbs and loved to ride that thing. But, by Thunder, we learned how to run block! You learn to move a sled like that and you learn how to move the line of scrimmage.
Honestly, there aren't many similarities between run blocking and pass blocking except for use of the term "blocking".
Even then, there are several different theories on run blocking. True man blocking is non-existent ("you block #58 no matter where he goes"), and almost every team uses some type of zone blocking. What's generally referred to as "zone blocking" is what I call "swoop blocking", where everyone goes one way, seals gaps, and gets upfield. Swooping isn't about blasting someone off the ball, it's more about crossing the face of the defender and getting upfield. I never minded facing a scheme like that; it relies entirely on a back with good vision and acceleration, and even a mediocre defensive line can contain this type of scheme with relative ease.
The biggest difference, however, is that 99% of pass blocking is passive. It's more about catching the defender and shielding him until the ball is released; most guys are taught to cede ground as long as the defender doesn't get past the OL. This is really only effective if there's no blitz and if the QB releases the ball on time as planned. If there's a blitz, it's usually a running back who's somehow supposed to arrest the forward progress of a charging linebacker. And if the ball isn't released on time or from the spot it's supposed to be, the OL goes from sitting pretty to panicking quickly.
In summation, here is the general idea with both:
Run blocking - Fire off low, lock onto a defender, and drive him out of the hole
Pass blocking - Drop back high, slap fight a defender, and keep shadowing him while continually dropping backwards
Posted via VolNation MobileWhy is it that the O-Line does a really good job with the pass blocking but the run blocking is so bad? What are the different skill sets required between the two?
I'm also wondering why we did fairly well running the ball last year prior to Bray taking over; even against the likes of Alabama.
Hate to down my vols but we looked like a bunch of high schoolers against all Americans. We better improve our O line and learn how to tackle or we will be a second ter sec team @ best .
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