Rivals has us at 11th ranked class now.. [9th with the late addition]

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ptcarter said:
I have to admit, for a brief moment, I was Joe fan. VOLS football has had many low points in the last few years. September was a train wreck. Just when you thought (Brady Hoke games) it couldn't get worse, the season started on on the same track it was on.

Fast forward to today. Do we have a recruiting class the caliber of Bama, LSU, Georgia? Not exactly, but I think this staff, if it stays intact, CAN coach this group up into a pretty good team. Rich get richer in this world and there is a threshold you have to get over to really get elite. It took a lot of years for the VOLS to deteriorate, and it'll take time to get it back to what we all want. This class is a stepping stone in that direction. If you were impressed by last years recruits, you should be happy about this bunch. We just might have a whole new flock of To'tot'os that can play with passion and get us back to where we need to be. 1 year from now, let's just see what this staff can recruit. I think you will see some really good results. Just my 2 cents.
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For better or worst Pruitt is a second year HC that is learning about as much as hes teaching right now. He has made plenty of mistakes along the way.

Right, wrong or sideways, that's just what it is.

The fact he held this team together and kept them bought in is pretty remarkable. It's not like he has a track record he can sell in a situation like that. And for that matter he had to convince himself without having that experience.

The start sucked and it cant happen again. But he should get a ton of credit for what happened after that.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
Just noted a couple of difference in ratings between Rivals & 247. I’ll
Check some of the others later. Rivals has HB as our No 1 recruit, 247 has him at 4th. Rivals has Whitehead at 18 out of 23 recruits, 247 has him at # 5. I just find it amusing. Recruiting rankings can be a source of hope for a program but you have to look at each recruit and how they fill the position needs to determine the real value of a recruiting class. To complain how we finish compared to the Florida’s, Georgia’s , etc is just silly. As long as we stay close we are in good shape. Player development and in-game coaching have as much value as the recruits we sign.
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I agree, stay close and we are doing that, I just looked at Clemson recruiting since dabo 09 was 37th
10 was 19th, 11 was 8th, 12 was 14th, 13 was 14th, 14, was 13th, 15 was 4th, 16 was 6th, 17 was 22nd, 18 was 8, and 19 was 5th. They have done pretty well, measure the first 3 years he was there ut is ahead of that schedule. And I would take clemsons success. Good coaching can take some 3 and 4 star recruits and play with anyone, especially if you have some great performers in skilled positions. And we have several 4 stars, which can compete with 5 stars with good coaching. I think we have a great coaching staff who will coach them up to be competitive. And also look at okl. their recruiting classes do not come near what a lot of the other top 10 schools are doing and they are successful. Look everyone can't win nc. I am happy to be in the top ten and also be able to compete with anyone and occasionaly be in the playoffs and win sec every few years.
 
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DaddyChad said:
No. Not right now.

Fun fact is teams like Georgia, Bama, Ohio State, Clemson have recruits ratings adjusted when they offer and more so when they commit to them. It makes sense for a recruiting service to bump these kids bc these programs have a history of developing kids and sending them to the league. A few years ago Clemson didn’t get that bump as much. Tennessee still needs success on the field to get into that top group. Top five to seven is pretty much usually going to include in some orderBama, Ohio State, Clemson, LSU, Georgia, Oklahoma.
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Absolutely correct. Our 4 stars may be just as good as their 5 stars, because of the way they do the rankings. From Bailey's stats he should be a 5 star and probably would if any of the teams you mentioned had got him to sign. On the field performance is what counts.
 
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ptcarter said:
I'm impressed with this staff. Just throwing this out there for folks to chew on. What's the chance this staff stays intact? And if not, who will be the defectors?
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The second Tee is offered an OC or HC position he is gone.
 
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I may be a sunshine pumper, but there is very little separating 6 thru 10 in these class ratings, a case could be made by those in the know that any 1 of us, barn, aTm, the gators could be ranked 6th or 10th. They are that close . At this point who can get the best production out of their class is what sets the real pecking order...and that will depend on player development and amount of need the player met at his position (or improvement over whoever was there).

The way I saw this staff take Warrior who was an absolute liability at the beginning of the year, and coach him into an All SEC safety and strength of our defense tells me we can develop talent. The fact that last years class produced 5 players that contributed bigtime as starters immediately and should start for 3 more years , and several more that were solid rotation players, shows me that this staff is damn near amazing at filling holes and meeting needs in our roster. My glasses arent so orange that I think we are already back..I get it. The schedule gets tougher this year by quite a bit and we are looking at 8 and 4 if win all the ones we should. History of SEC teams as well as Clemson and others has shown me that 3 good top 15 or so classes in a row with good coaching makes for a top 10 caliber team though. 1 more good class like this after a decent season in 2020 and we should be fielding a top 15 team to start the year and a top 10 team to end it if we knock off an UF or UGA...or Bama. Top 10 guys. That's when we are "back" IMO.

If CJP keeps us on this trajectory and has us a top 10 or 15 caliber team after only 3 or 4 full seasons on the Hill...we need to back a Brinks truck up to his house and lock him down for another 5 years or more. It means he has done what the last 4 staffs couldnt do...and done it faster than most ever expected. We are about halfway there in recruits, need improvement steadily on the field and we will get there. I was like everyone else...not sure about him at first. The guy has done exactly what we hoped he could do since we hired him though. Losing a couple more than we should to start this season sucked majorly...but what he and the team pulled off afterwards is one of the most impressive seasons I have seen in my 42 years. It took heart, ballz, and the staff and team being 100% sold out to Give Their All For Tennessee.

I am very happy for our staff and team. I want to wreck Indiana and send a message.
GBO WGWTFA
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think Wisconsin has had a top 30 class in the last decade...yet they flirt with the CF playoffs almost every year. I realize if they played in the SEC they don't win near as many games....I don't think....but still....they perform WAAAY ahead of their "star" rankings every year. Its the program...the coaching...the whole deal. If we can at least be close in the star rankings...and add superior coaching and a "program"....we should be able to compete with the biggies in the big bad SEC.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
..and we still have 3 more open slots. That's with 22 committed.

We may very well pull off a top 10 class guys. More importantly, CJP absolutely killed it at filling in the holes in our roster at WR...LB...DB...and RB.

Couple of good 4 star surprises today.

We are on the way BACK TO THE TOP!!!

GO VOLS!!! WGWTFA!!

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Up to 9th now with Joseph as 23rd!!! Thanks Freak for updating title.
Who do yall think the 3 big fish might be?

Who will be the standout from this class?
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I like this class as #4 in SEC behind Bama, LSU and GA. JMHO

Washington gets us to #6
 
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cgrish said:
I agree, stay close and we are doing that, I just looked at Clemson recruiting since dabo 09 was 37th
10 was 19th, 11 was 8th, 12 was 14th, 13 was 14th, 14, was 13th, 15 was 4th, 16 was 6th, 17 was 22nd, 18 was 8, and 19 was 5th. They have done pretty well, measure the first 3 years he was there ut is ahead of us.I would take Clemson’s Conference. Good coaching can take some 3 and 4 star recruits and play with anyone, especially if you have some great performers in skilled positions. And we have several 4 stars, which can compete with 5 stars with good coaching. I think we have a great coaching staff who will coach them up to be competitive. And also look at okl. their recruiting classes do not come near what a lot of the other top 10 schools are doing and they are successful. Look everyone can't win nc. I am happy to be in the top ten and also be able to compete with anyone and occasionaly be in the playoffs and win sec every few years.
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