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McDad said:
When those happened on Twitter, Meta, Reddit and other platforms, those complaining were told those are private platforms and can make the rules they want to.

That is still true.
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The point is that they aren't complaining now because they never cared about speech. We had MFers threatening section 230 because they thought Zuck's property was the public square, and now they don't say anything about free speech with Musk's twitter. They are more likely to claim he is a free speech champion than to acknowledge his attacks on speech. Nobody is saying threaten section 230, or advocate for any type of compulsion. But shouldn't we complain about it? Should we not call it out?

I protested pre-Musk speech problems on Twitter. I didn't advocate for force. I protest post-Musk speech problems and do not advocate for force. I'm flabbergasted at the community's response here.
 
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n_huffhines said:
The point is that they aren't complaining now because they never cared about speech. We had MFers threatening section 230 because they thought Zuck's property was the public square, and now they don't say anything about free speech with Musk's twitter. They are more likely to claim he is a free speech champion than to acknowledge his attacks on speech. Nobody is saying threaten section 230, or advocate for any type of compulsion. But shouldn't we complain about it? Should we not call it out?

I protested pre-Musk speech problems on Twitter. I didn't advocate for force. I protest post-Musk speech problems and do not advocate for force. I'm flabbergasted at the community's response here.
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I understand your reaction at the inconsistency. I'm surprised you're taken aback though. You've seen countless iterations of squishy principles based on politics.
Many of us didn't care then. We don't care now. Maybe those people are the only consistent ones you'll find.🤷‍♂️
 
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C-south said:
I could have sworn one of those people was huffy. If someone pointed out a particular bias he said it was a private company and people didn’t have to use it.
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It wasn't about Twitter it was YouTube..
n_huffhines said:
Youtube is private business and they care about their reputation. Let's wait and see how this actually works in practice before we start acting like this is communist China.

It's fear-mongering...seriously "scare away youtubers"? What is scary about having content removed?
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n_huffhines said:
You're missing the point....they can remove whatever they want, including opinions they don't want espoused on their platform. Translation: "Take your neo-nazi promoting music video elsewhere...here is the fine print that now exists."
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hog88 said:
Of course, there is more to the story than your screenshot provides.

https://www.ccn.com/news/technology...ders-block-700-accounts-free-speech-backlash/

X Suspends Accounts in Turkey After Government Removal Requests
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Where did you find this article, LOL? Crypto is the first link in the top nav, LMAO.

Let's go through this.

The only time you pipe in to say something about free speech and Musk is when you think you can defend him against speech criticisms. You don't criticize, and you don't say anything when there is nothing to defend. Why? What is the motive?

Now to your defense in this case....that's a glowing article you found there. Incredible that its entire focus is what Musk is doing to push back and makes no mention whatsoever of his failures in this regard. It paints him as a consistent defender of free speech. It's amazing that he didn't mention that X complied with 86% of Turkey's requests to down content in the 2nd half of 2024. He didn't mention that X was restricting content during the Turkish elections in 2023. Cool that X is pushing back in some cases. Fkn great. It's not a free speech platform and Musk isn't a free speech absolutist.

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transparency.x.com
 
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n_huffhines said:
Where did you find this article, LOL? Crypto is the first link in the top nav, LMAO.

Let's go through this.

The only time you pipe in to say something about free speech and Musk is when you think you can defend him against speech criticisms. You don't criticize, and you don't say anything when there is nothing to defend. Why? What is the motive?

Now to your defense in this case....that's a glowing article you found there. Incredible that its entire focus is what Musk is doing to push back and makes no mention whatsoever of his failures in this regard. It paints him as a consistent defender of free speech. It's amazing that he didn't mention that X complied with 86% of Turkey's requests to down content in the 2nd half of 2024. He didn't mention that X was restricting content during the Turkish elections in 2023. Cool that X is pushing back in some cases. Fkn great. It's not a free speech platform and Musk isn't a free speech absolutist.

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transparency.x.com
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I posted 2 articles without comment other than that there is more to the story than your screenshot. It really wasn't in defense of Musk or X, it's a private company and can do what it thinks is best for it's shareholders. The reason behind my post was to point out your constant duplicity by only posting screenshots with dramatized headlines or snippets while hiding the rest of the story.
 
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hog88 said:
The reason behind my post was to point out your constant duplicity by only posting screenshots with dramatized headlines or snippets while hiding the rest of the story.
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Fair in this case, but I post plenty of links and people don't read them.

I also don't necessarily want to promote websites or accounts I'm quoting, like say the NYT. Scraping their content is better than "endorsing" (SEO stuff) them with a link. People think I agree 100% with everything I share and I do not.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Fair in this case, but I post plenty of links and people don't read them.

I also don't necessarily want to promote websites or accounts I'm quoting, like say the NYT. Scraping their content is better than "endorsing" (SEO stuff) them with a link. People think I agree 100% with everything I share and I do not.
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No it's not. People ignore you because they feel they can't trust you for reasons listed.

Also, it's funny that you attack Trump, Musk and other private orgs due to "free press/speech" issues while also refusing to link to your less favored sources even though you're using them as sources, presumably as some activity to limit the circulations of sources you disfavor.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Where are the fakeass free speech warriors today?

Dropkick Murphys suspended from Twitter on St. Patty's day of all days, apparently for exercising free speech at a concert.

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www.dailywire.com

Dropkick Murphys Singer Berates Fan In MAGA Hat At Boston Show: ‘Shut The F*** Up’

Ken Casey, lead singer of the Celtic punk rock band Dropkick Murphys, didn’t hold back his opinion of a fan who attended a show in Boston over the weekend with a MAGA hat in tow. He began his rant by saying that Republicans “all wear” a “Chinese f***ing red” MAGA hat, which he claims is ...
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Not even remotely true, but I guess some people like you and Nash believe anything you see from random posters
 
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Vol8188 said:
Not even remotely true, but I guess some people like you and Nash believe anything you see from random posters
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Thanks for the clarification. I read whole articles about it, not just tweets.

- One problem is you don't know why someone was suspended, and that's as much due diligence as you can do.
- Another problem is Elon got rid of verified accounts and I've been confused ever since.
- The other problem is Elon has a habit of suspending accounts for speech, making this totally believable, so pardon my confusion at this happening.

And lastly, one problem is that you don't care even when these stories are true. You literally said you don't care if Musk is telling monumental lies, so kindly **** off with this post admonishing me for believing something that turned out false. You admitted that you don't mind misinformation at all.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Thanks for the clarification. I read whole articles about it, not just tweets.

- One problem is you don't know why someone was suspended, and that's as much due diligence as you can do.
- Another problem is Elon got rid of verified accounts and I've been confused ever since.
- The other problem is Elon has a habit of suspending accounts for speech, making this totally believable, so pardon my confusion at this happening.

And lastly, one problem is that you don't care even when these stories are true. You literally said you don't care if Musk is telling monumental lies, so kindly **** off with this post admonishing me for believing something that turned out false. You admitted that you don't mind misinformation at all.
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So you read false articles about it? Am I supposed to be impressed?

Didn’t say I “don’t mind misinformation at all”. If anything I said the opposite given I stated I’d prefer to get the same policies without nonsense.
 
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www.bbc.com

Elon Musk's X to clamp down on parody accounts

Some users have complained about Elon Musk parody accounts on the platform.
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From 10 April, accounts which impersonate another user or person must use key words such as "fake" or "parody" at the start of their account names.

The platform will also require parody account holders to use different images to the X accounts belonging to those they seek to represent.
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CagleMtnVol said:
I don't like being fooled.

When they intentionally hide that they are a fake account that is wrong.
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But it's absolutely free speech. You just don't like the fact you have to check and see what's true and what's not. Don't allow your laziness to trump our speech
 
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utvolpj said:
But it's absolutely free speech. You just don't like the fact you have to check and see what's true and what's not. Don't allow your laziness to trump our speech
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I have no problem with parody/spoof accounts that make fun of someone, it's when they intentionally hide that they are a parody and post as if they are the real person.
 
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CagleMtnVol said:
I have no problem with parody/spoof accounts that make fun of someone, it's when they intentionally hide that they are a parody and post as if they are the real person.
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How is that anything but a you problem? Most are ridiculously obvious and even those that aren't just take a basic search to verify.

I'm guessing when you said "I don't like to get fooled" you really meant "I fall for so much fake stuff"
 
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