Rick Barnes discussion (merged)

[Owl-flavored]

I was there and it’s the worst I’ve ever seen them play in person. Totally took the crowd out of it.

 

[D3Athlete]

Ok. You still had a W in the bag and me and you could've been just as productive on O as our senior-laden team for a 7 minute stretch.

We all knew the offense was gonna be the downfall, and no ZZ made it even stronger possibility. Is what it is. It sucks, but FAU isn’t a scrub team.

 

[MOOOOONEY]

That is a ludicrous comment. Barnes hasn’t missed all those wide open shots or gotten out rebounded by a bunch of midgets.

Remove Barnes and insert Dooley, Lyle Jones, or Jeremy Pruitt. This was the same message when football was underperforming.

Isn’t ironic that once we hired a football coach who could actually coach all the player problems disappeared.

 

[volsforever27]

You need to rethink your life choices if somebody else’s money makes you that upset.

This keeps getting dumber. Good on Rick for getting paid, but if you threaten to leave to get a raise you better expect to be held to the standard you're being paid.

I can't believe this is even an argument.

 

[VolGee4]

Remove Barnes and insert Dooley, Lyle Jones, or Jeremy Pruitt. This was the same message when football was underperforming.

Isn’t ironic that once we hired a football coach who could actually coach all the player problems disappeared.

Lol…comparing Barnes to those guys? That’s rich and dumb.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

I agree that Bruce needed to be a salesman. But the narrative that Barnes inherited a better situation is just not true. The roster he was handed was bad. That’s why it took 2 years to develop 3 stars.

I didn’t think Martin’s lucky run to the SS had any bearing on our program. It was headed down until Martin left. He was not sustaining it.

Martin took advantage of the improved program to get players that someone with his level of charisma would not normally get (unless he hired their daddy).

Bruce inherited players that had not won crap and a program that had not won crap in 2 decades (other than a blip from Green). Barnes inherited a bad team but we are underselling what Bruce did in Y1...

 

[VolsSportsFan]

As much as I hate this thread, that point may well be true. But I even if that’s the case, there are a lot worse places the program could be than to have a coach like that.

So we need to hire a dude with a goofy haircut?

 

[Voltopia]

The good news is death will one day find each of us and wrap us in its warm embrace

Not me. I'm going to hide in the closet where Barnes keeps all his leftover timeouts. One look and Death'll say "Oh good grief I'm not digging through all those" and move on to the next guy.

 

[VolGee4]

This keeps getting dumber. Good on Rick for getting paid, but if you threaten to leave to get a raise you better expect to be held to the standard you're being paid.

I can't believe this is even an argument.

That’s the market. I can’t believe it’s even an argument either. After each year, he moves down the list as others get new jobs. But VN loves to bring it up.

 

[volsarelife1]

You need to rethink your life choices if somebody else’s money makes you that upset.

I didn't mention anything about money.

Just playing off your bitching doesn't change anything. And neither does pumping or positive messages either

 

[VolGee4]

Martin took advantage of the improved program to get players that someone with his level of charisma would not normally get (unless he hired their daddy).

Bruce inherited players that had not won crap and a program that had not won crap in 2 decades (other than a blip from Green). Barnes inherited a bad team but we are underselling what Bruce did in Y1...

Both did a good job but let's not turn what Bruce inherited into the 1998 Bulls either

Never said that. But people who want to compare the two want to be dishonest and say that Pearl inherited a bad roster. His roster had talent. In fact, historical talent,

 

[Jxn Vol]

Barnes=Richt

 

[VolFreakJosh]

This keeps getting dumber. Good on Rick for getting paid, but if you threaten to leave to get a raise you better expect to be held to the standard you're being paid.

I can't believe this is even an argument.

Ok?

That’s not my problem.

Again, take it up with Danny White if you’re bothered by it.

Im sure life will go on regardless Barnes is making millions or two dollars.

 

[volsforever27]

That’s the market. I can’t believe it’s even an argument either. After each year, he moves down the list as others get new jobs. But VN loves to bring it up.

He ranks behind Cal, Self and Izzo. It's worth talking about.

 

[volsforever27]

Ok?

That’s not my problem.

Again, take it up with Danny White if you’re bothered by it.

Im sure life will go on regardless Barnes is making millions or two dollars.

Yep that was my point. Lord.

 

[VolArmy74]

Look at Memphis. Just like us, 5 coaches there in past 25 years (more than 1 year). Only one coach (Cal) made it to the 2nd weekend.

In the same timespan, we've had 4 coaches do that.

I never said Bruce inherited a worse team but he inherited a far worse program than Barnes....

I can only assume some of the people are young and don't realize or remember how bad it was under Buzz. And how the image of our program was just trash. Roy Williams was on ESPN trashing us for thinking we were better than NIT level Buzz.

Barnes inherited a program that had shown what it could be in the prior 10 years. The rosters were more similar than some want to admit. The program was on about the same level as current South Carolina when Bruce arrived.

 

[white65]

Firing Barnes is a stupid idea. He's done more for Tennessee basketball than any coach without the court named after them.

Losses always bring out the worst in people. I'm upset but who would we even get?

 

[VolsAgainstTheWorld15]

Remove Barnes and insert Dooley, Lyle Jones, or Jeremy Pruitt. This was the same message when football was underperforming.

Isn’t ironic that once we hired a football coach who could actually coach all the player problems disappeared.

Attempting to throw Barnes in the same category as those buffoons is ludicrous.

 

[berryvol]

He ranks behind Cal, Self and Izzo. It's worth talking about.

The top 4 highest paid coaches in the S16 all lost today.

 

[MOOOOONEY]

Anyone can flip frozen burgers. Add 7 more zeros to your paychecks and you can compare to Barnes

I bet UCLA is elated that Tennessee overpaid to keep him.

At some point when you are paid final 4 money you have to produce final 4 results.

 

[jaguinn5]

March Madness strikes again.

Rick Barnes strikes again.

 

[VolGee4]

He ranks behind Cal, Self and Izzo. It's worth talking about.

What’s Ed Cooley now making at Georgetown? What did Pitino get at St. John’s (this hasn’t been reported yet)? What does John Scheyer make at Duke? What did Chris Beard make at Texas? What does Cronin make?

Let’s keep talking.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

Remove Barnes and insert Dooley, Lyle Jones, or Jeremy Pruitt. This was the same message when football was underperforming.

Isn’t ironic that once we hired a football coach who could actually coach all the player problems disappeared.

This take is stupid. Jeremy Pruitt and Derek Dooley were two of the worst hires in SEC history for any sport....

 

[volsforever27]

The top 4 highest paid coaches in the S16 all lost today.

And what are their overall records? Lucky for them, they've coached more than one season.

 

[volsforever27]

What’s Ed Cooley now making at Georgetown? What did Pitino get at St. John’s (this hasn’t been reported yet)? What does John Scheyer make at Duke? What did Chris Beard make at Texas? What does Cronin make?

Let’s keep talking.

Did they make more than Barnes?