Revised SEC Scheduling

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I hate that GA only has to play Bama like once a decade in the regular season now.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
How is LSU and Texas A&M a rivalry bigger than LSU and Auburn?
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LSU and A&M have actually played more than LSU and Auburn. 57 to 53, and they've got to give everybody permanent rivals. LSU is high up on A&M's list, and Auburn has bigger historic rivals than LSU by a wide margin.
 
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VolRoger said:
Another article about SEC Scheduling has been written online, this time by Bill Connelly of ESPN. I reference the article's url address just below along with pasting the main highlights of the article in case some doesn't wish to or can't use the link. I think most on the board have seen these kinds of suggestions before, but I thought his points in the article and the solution given was actually pretty good as it keeps each team at an 8 game SEC schedule and ensures that they get to play every one in the conference home and away at least once every four years. I'd be interesting in what you think. BTW, he had Bama on our every year pod schedule along with Florida and Vandy. Since we would get to play them twice every four years anyway, I changed out the Tide for the Wildcats to make things a little more balanced.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/27759331/why-sec-needs-scrap-divisions-more-week-6-college-football-thoughts

Just ban divisions altogether.
I've written about this before, but it has picked up steam in the run-up to Auburn-Florida. Let's walk through the basics of what we'll call the conference pod structure.
1. Instead of divisions, each team has a set of three permanent rivals. We have taken to calling them pods. Having three for each team satisfies most rivalry needs, as you'll see below.
2. You play your three permanent rivals every year, and you rotate between the other 10. Home-and-homes against five of them for two years, then home-and-homes against the other five the next two years. Within a student's four years on campus, you have played everyone in the league at least twice. Now that's a conference.

Hypothetical SEC rivalry pods

Alabama: Auburn, LSU, Kentucky
Arkansas: Missouri, Ole Miss, Texas A&M
Auburn: Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi State
Florida: Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee
Georgia: Auburn, Florida, South Carolina
Kentucky: Alabama, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
LSU: Alabama, Ole Miss, Texas A&M
Mississippi State: Auburn, Missouri, Ole Miss
Missouri: Arkansas, Mississippi State, Texas A&M
Ole Miss: Arkansas, LSU, Mississippi State
South Carolina: Florida, Georgia, Vanderbilt
Tennessee: Kentucky, Florida, Vanderbilt
Texas A&M: Arkansas, LSU, Missouri
Vanderbilt: Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee
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FORGET IT!!!!! The SEC is NOT going to get rid of the title game! It would result in a loss of way too much money and exposure to the playoff. If anything the SEC needs to add 2 more teams and go to a 4 division set up. The winners of each division play to determine the SEC winner. Imaging if all 5 power conferences did this. There would be a 20 team playoff, if you added 4 other schools who are not in power 5 conferences, then you have a 24 team playoff and a true national champion....all with only adding 1 more game to everyones schedule.
 
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Who is the decision maker when it comes to rivals? Somebody decides who our rivals are, I think we can decide for ourselves, thank you very much. I know about as many fans consider Bama our number one rival,
as do FL, with Vandy in TN they are a natural, but for someone's committee, to decide who Our rivals are, doesn't sit well with me.
 
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VolBricks said:
I say we scrap the NCAA altogether and pay VolNation to come up with new conferences and a true playoff system.
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A TRUE play off system, now we're talking. It is always argued, due to the money involved, we will never see a True Playoff system, because some of the favored conferences and teams might not get the money they feel they deserve, and they may not win as many championships. This may be the reason, but in any case, it would be great! The AP and coaches polls would mean close to zero, as the best teams would move forward, and those that can't seem to win, would not. Love it.
 
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I'm a cranky old man with only a few years left. I want to see the "TSIO" til I die and then ya'll can change it. :)
 
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VolRoger said:
Another article about SEC Scheduling has been written online, this time by Bill Connelly of ESPN. I reference the article's url address just below along with pasting the main highlights of the article in case some doesn't wish to or can't use the link. I think most on the board have seen these kinds of suggestions before, but I thought his points in the article and the solution given was actually pretty good as it keeps each team at an 8 game SEC schedule and ensures that they get to play every one in the conference home and away at least once every four years. I'd be interesting in what you think. BTW, he had Bama on our every year pod schedule along with Florida and Vandy. Since we would get to play them twice every four years anyway, I changed out the Tide for the Wildcats to make things a little more balanced.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/27759331/why-sec-needs-scrap-divisions-more-week-6-college-football-thoughts

Just ban divisions altogether.
I've written about this before, but it has picked up steam in the run-up to Auburn-Florida. Let's walk through the basics of what we'll call the conference pod structure.
1. Instead of divisions, each team has a set of three permanent rivals. We have taken to calling them pods. Having three for each team satisfies most rivalry needs, as you'll see below.
2. You play your three permanent rivals every year, and you rotate between the other 10. Home-and-homes against five of them for two years, then home-and-homes against the other five the next two years. Within a student's four years on campus, you have played everyone in the league at least twice. Now that's a conference.

Hypothetical SEC rivalry pods

Alabama: Auburn, LSU, Kentucky
Arkansas: Missouri, Ole Miss, Texas A&M
Auburn: Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi State
Florida: Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee
Georgia: Auburn, Florida, South Carolina
Kentucky: Alabama, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
LSU: Alabama, Ole Miss, Texas A&M
Mississippi State: Auburn, Missouri, Ole Miss
Missouri: Arkansas, Mississippi State, Texas A&M
Ole Miss: Arkansas, LSU, Mississippi State
South Carolina: Florida, Georgia, Vanderbilt
Tennessee: Kentucky, Florida, Vanderbilt
Texas A&M: Arkansas, LSU, Missouri
Vanderbilt: Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee
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SEC needs to play nine conference games. The non conference schedule for most schools in the SEC is an absolute joke.
 
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volfannbama said:
How is alabama / kentucky.considered a rivalry? Put Tennessee Alabama back on there and I would like it.
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No way Alabama should stay, it’s a disadvantage to us and gives our division an advantage. Don’t want to hear about dodging anyone or not being manly enough to play them. It’s time to level the playing field.
 
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airvols said:
No way Alabama should stay, it’s a disadvantage to us and gives our division an advantage. Don’t want to hear about dodging anyone or not being manly enough to play them. It’s time to level the playing field.
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The rivalry has a name, we need to drop the loser mentality. Teams have ups and downs and alabamas will come again.
 
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airvols said:
No way Alabama should stay, it’s a disadvantage to us and gives our division an advantage. Don’t want to hear about dodging anyone or not being manly enough to play them. It’s time to level the playing field.
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Make sure we all get a trophy, right? This mentality chaps my a$$. Football is cyclical. When we were beating them in the 90's, there were articles lamenting the "loss of the rivalry" because Alabama was a pushover, and "it's just not fun anymore". One truth remains the same no matter what... Want to be the man, beat the man.
 
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volfannbama said:
How is alabama / kentucky.considered a rivalry? Put Tennessee Alabama back on there and I would like it.
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Our three biggest rivals are Bama, Florida, and Georgia. We can’t beat them anymore but they are still the teams our fans most want to play and someday best again.
 
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BogeyVol said:
Make sure we all get a trophy, right? This mentality chaps my a$$. Football is cyclical. When we were beating them in the 90's, there were articles lamenting the "loss of the rivalry" because Alabama was a pushover, and "it's just not fun anymore". One truth remains the same no matter what... Want to be the man, beat the man.
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See this is the problem this mentality is why we need to change you are looking at this like it’s darn wrestling match, sorry bud you need to use that brain and realize it gives our regular season division teams an advantage. When we hire coaches it’s a disadvantage. You can pump up your Testosterone filled ego all you want to the fact remains it’s not a level playing field.
 
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Vfl2407 said:
Our three biggest rivals are Bama, Florida, and Georgia. We can’t beat them anymore but they are still the teams our fans most want to play and someday best again.
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Yeah, I think its funny that people want to avoid alabama. That game has cost us nothing in the last decade. With that mentality we need to avoid vandy as well.
 
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airvols said:
See this is the problem this mentality is why we need to change you are looking at this like it’s darn wrestling match, sorry bud you need to use that brain and realize it gives our regular season division teams an advantage. When we hire coaches it’s a disadvantage. You can pump up your Testosterone filled ego all you want to the fact remains it’s not a level playing field.
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Name the year that losing to alabama has cost us anything the last 10 years?
 
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volfannbama said:
The rivalry has a name, we need to drop the loser mentality. Teams have ups and downs and alabamas will come again.
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The only loser mentality is the one that believes it’s a level playing field. Does Georgia playBama every year NO, does Florida play BAMA every year NO, do think their record would be different if they did. YES. If we are good enough, we will get them in the championship game anyway. Use you head and not your ego.
 
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#42
I’m in the minority. I’ve been a Tenn fan for 30-40 years but have never seen Ala as any bigger rival than Flor or even Ga. Maybe the split divisions has caused that, but even before the split I didn’t really care. Whoever Tenn is playing is the team I want to beat. Before or after that, I don’t care what they do. Everyone is correct about the cyclical talent levels, but I doubt the majority of Ala fans (and probably Fl) think of Tenn as their most hated rival. Ala has Aub and Fl has Ga. Tenn’s probably is Vandy. Even when Tenn was beating them regularly. Almost positive Vandy thinks this way. They played a lot of close games with Tenn even when the Vols way out talented them.
 
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airvols said:
The only loser mentality is the one that believes it’s a level playing field. Does Georgia playBama every year NO, does Florida play BAMA every year NO, do think their record would be different if they did. YES. If we are good enough, we will get them in the championship game anyway. Use you head and not your ego.
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Has nothing to do with my ego. The point of the article is to keep rivalries. Tenn / alabama is one of the best. Being scared to play someone is a loser mentality. In this instance you wouldnt have the divisions. And as a reminder, losing to alabama has cost us 0 trips to atlanta the last decade.
 
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volfannbama said:
Has nothing to do with my ego. The point of the article is to keep rivalries. Tenn / alabama is one of the best. Being scared to play someone is a loser mentality. In this instance you wouldnt have the divisions. And as a reminder, losing to alabama has cost us 0 trips to atlanta the last decade.
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I can think of two occasions if we had one more win we would have been to a bowl game, one being the Sugar bowl. Not afraid to play them, just want it equal across the conference and it’s not right now. We have had at least four SEC coaches say the same thing, this is just ego and not common sense.
 
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airvols said:
I can think of two occasions if we had one more win we would have been to a bowl game, one being the Sugar bowl. Not afraid to play them, just want it equal across the conference and it’s not right now. We have had at least four SEC coaches say the same thing, this is just ego and not common sense.
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Its never going to be an equal playing field unless everyone plays the exact same teams.
Its never cost us a chance at being sec champs.
 
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piratelifeforme said:
FORGET IT!!!!! The SEC is NOT going to get rid of the title game! It would result in a loss of way too much money and exposure to the playoff. If anything the SEC needs to add 2 more teams and go to a 4 division set up. The winners of each division play to determine the SEC winner. Imaging if all 5 power conferences did this. There would be a 20 team playoff, if you added 4 other schools who are not in power 5 conferences, then you have a 24 team playoff and a true national champion....all with only adding 1 more game to everyones schedule.
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The writer of the article does not propose getting rid of the SEC Championship, and I doubt few would. The writer as well as the most of us know that it's a big money maker. You take the top two teams at the end of the regular season and let them play. Probably would have some tie breakers to deal with in most years, but that's certainly doable. Your proposal for the SEC is a solution I've heard and might work to achieve your aim of a fairer national champion. I doubt it proves the best SEC team though unless you really mix up those four divisions to make each division winner earn it unlike Georgia for example.
 
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I hate that a kid can come in here for four even five years and never get to play at Death Valley or A&M. I'm in favor of no out of conference games. Everyone plays everyone and the OOC games are bowl games. Number one in one conference plays number one in another, number 3 plays number 3 and so on. That way you can tell who is the best conferences. I want an All SEC schedule.
 
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Hard to regard the SEC as a "conference" when teams can practically go a decade without playing each other on a home and away basis. The pods idea is interesting and worth exploring. As someone posted above, the Vols will play Oklahoma more frequently than some of the SEC west division teams.
 
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