Respect for Rock fuels strong summer

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Boca Vol said:
The previous guy, Szerszen, was with Butch at Cincy since he arrived there. All last summer we saw tweets and vids of players looking jacked. Even rival fans I would talk to said that UT "looks" like a football team.

So was UT a Ford F350 with a Yugo engine?

Here's to Rock building them from the inside out! Go get 'em Rock!
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Not yugo..just an ecoboost..
 
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vol2002 said:
Mike Griffith said on the Vols SEC country podcast (a good podcast by the way) that Butch told him he did not want to call last year a disappointment because it would send the wrong message to his team. He was proud of how they fought through injuries. He also thought there were very good personal achievements (Barnett, etc.). He didn't think it was appropriate to throw all of them under the bus to placate the media and Volnation's football forum (a direct quote by the way).

Makes sense to me.
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Yeah, I said that a few days ago in another thread. If you look at it from his perspective it wasn't completely disappointing. If you think logically and not always trying to analyze Butch's words from a negative perspective then you could definitely see where it makes sense. Butch has a million and one things he has to do right to appease the vocal minority who rip him. God, I want him to make it to 10 wins so bad this year just to shut a lot of these a$$hats on Twitter and here up.

QUOTE=Bigworm87;13904735]To players, if you didn't win enough, that's all that matters to them.

I'm sure Butch wasn't happy with the win loss record. However, he has to think of everything as a whole. We set records on offense, graduated all seniors, and still won 9 games with a severely depleted roster. He's not going to say yeah it was a disappointment and then everyone runs around saying he threw his players under the bus because he didn't take accountability.

I'm sure there's a few calls he wished he wouldn't have made. That's every coach. He didn't fumble 6 times or commit 12 penalties at a&m, quit the team midway through the season, injure all of his starters, or throw balls 10 yards in the ground at SC.

I think he's an above average coach who just brought in a hell of a coaching lineup. It would be nice to just sit back and wait and see how things go instead of fishing for sh!t to dissect everyday.[/QUOTE]
 
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When Butch was announced at media days by the commissioner he made a statement that Butch challenges him to read books and that he just finished a book that Butch had recommended. It was some book on "Positivity" so that's another reason Butch is not going to publically say he was disappointed. He is trying to keep his positive mantra going. Let's hope it pays off. excuse me.....I know it's going to pay off!! (positivity)
 
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Shadowboxer said:
Every strength coach we hire has been the best strength coach ever. We hear the same type of stories each year.
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Yeah we always hire an nfl strength coach of the year that is respected and acknowledged as one of the best in the game. Same ole same ole am i rite?
 
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Bigworm87 said:
Yeah, I said that a few days ago in another thread. If you look at it from his perspective it wasn't completely disappointing. If you think logically and not always trying to analyze Butch's words from a negative perspective then you could definitely see where it makes sense. Butch has a million and one things he has to do right to appease the vocal minority who rip him. God, I want him to make it to 10 wins so bad this year just to shut a lot of these a$$hats on Twitter and here up.

QUOTE=Bigworm87;13904735]To players, if you didn't win enough, that's all that matters to them.

I'm sure Butch wasn't happy with the win loss record. However, he has to think of everything as a whole. We set records on offense, graduated all seniors, and still won 9 games with a severely depleted roster. He's not going to say yeah it was a disappointment and then everyone runs around saying he threw his players under the bus because he didn't take accountability.

I'm sure there's a few calls he wished he wouldn't have made. That's every coach. He didn't fumble 6 times or commit 12 penalties at a&m, quit the team midway through the season, injure all of his starters, or throw balls 10 yards in the ground at SC.

I think he's an above average coach who just brought in a hell of a coaching lineup. It would be nice to just sit back and wait and see how things go instead of fishing for sh!t to dissect everyday.
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"just sit back and wait", that's no fun.

I want to talk trash about all of the teams on our schedule. Say how they have loser fans and an inferior team.

I want to talk about how 121 is going to pull together, work all summer and show out starting Sept. 4th all the way thru till Atlanta Jan. 8th.

I have yet to see a player's interview from SEC MD 17. Could someone please direct me to them or link somewhere on Volnation.
Google is my friend but has been on vacation(Unsuccessful attempts have been made.).
 
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Boca Vol said:
This is true. All of a sudden the previous guy sucked and had no idea what the bench press is, and the new guy will have the team moving mountains.
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I agree with you but in this case there was NO previous guy last season. Dave Lawson came with Butch and he did a great job. In 2015 season the VOLS looked as tough as anybody in Nation. However, he was known to be too hard on the guys and had philosophical differences with Butch.
He quit 2016 spring and TN went whole offseason with a deputy guy. They did not have a SC guy which showed immediately.
I remember after 2015 game against Bama, Kirby Smart said Vols were the physically toughest team they faced all year. Hope we get back to that level of toughness.
 
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You can't argue with Rock's pedigree. I have to imagine the players know that if they want to be physically ready to play the next level, they will need to meet the expectations and hold themselves accountable to Rock's standards.

In the very least I am hoping this hire leads to a more healthy season and leads to us bruising up other teams than vice-versa.
 
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This is where Butch failed last year. He had the talent and let it slip away without maximizing what he had. This year is opposite, not as much talent but at least he is trying to get the most out of it.
 
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Boca Vol said:
No...not really! Just go back through history.
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Yeah really. Every season there's optimism from one side and the other side says "we hear the same thing every year". They usually EXAGGERATE what they "hear every year". The one year with Mckeefery, we never figured out who the hell he was. :)
 
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westennvol said:
This is where Butch failed last year. He had the talent and let it slip away without maximizing what he had. This year is opposite, not as much talent but at least he is trying to get the most out of it.
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We don't know what the talent ceiling is this season. May or may not be upgrades at position you wouldn't think.
 
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volmandu said:
I agree with you but in this case there was NO previous guy last season. Dave Lawson came with Butch and he did a great job. In 2015 season the VOLS looked as tough as anybody in Nation. However, he was known to be too hard on the guys and had philosophical differences with Butch.
He quit 2016 spring and TN went whole offseason with a deputy guy. They did not have a SC guy which showed immediately.
I remember after 2015 game against Bama, Kirby Smart said Vols were the physically toughest team they faced all year. Hope we get back to that level of toughness.
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He had been with Butch for 6 years. His role at Cincy was Director of Football Strength & Conditioning.

2010-12 Cincinnati Dir. of FB Strength & Cond.
2013-15 Tennessee Assoc. Strength & Cond.
2016 Tennessee Assoc. Dir. of Strength & Cond.

Go back and look at the threads from a year ago when players were tweeting pics and vids. No one was saying that S&C was an issue.
 
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butchna said:
Yeah really. Every season there's optimism from one side and the other side says "we hear the same thing every year". They usually EXAGGERATE what they "hear every year". The one year with Mckeefery, we never figured out who the hell he was. :)
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First of all, it's not a UT issue regarding "we hear the same thing every time there's a S&C change". It's every school/team that says that. I have a healthy level of skepticism when I saw a SunBelt team whip us on the lines last year or when Vandy whipped us along both lines in the 2nd half. I'm hopeful that Rock is the answer but I think it's fair to take a wait and see approach.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
First of all, it's not a UT issue regarding "we hear the same thing every time there's a S&C change". It's every school/team that says that. I have a healthy level of skepticism when I saw a SunBelt team whip us on the lines last year or when Vandy whipped us along both lines in the 2nd half. I'm hopeful that Rock is the answer but I think it's fair to take a wait and see approach.
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And it's "fair" for other fans to get excited and take the opposite approach...good talk. :thumbsup:
 
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butchna said:
And it's "fair" for other fans to get excited and take the opposite approach...good talk. :thumbsup:
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And you are right, it's fair for fans to take the opposite approach. There's not really a wrong answer.

By the way, I'm out in your neck of the woods this week/weekend. The wife thought that going out and seeing family in TX in mid-July was a great idea.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
And you are right, it's fair for fans to take the opposite approach. There's not really a wrong answer.

By the way, I'm out in your neck of the woods this week/weekend. The wife thought that going out and seeing family in TX in mid-July was a great idea.
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Tropical climate...don't pack a jacket. :) Supposed to rain heavy on Sunday tho.
 
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sjt18 said:
Glass half full- Jones has grown as a coach and had the horsepower to hire a solid NFL level S&C coach.

Glass half empty- Why didn't Jones know that the staff he brought with him wasn't SEC caliber?
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This is it exactly!!!


I'm glass half full!
 
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"just sit back and wait", that's no fun.

I want to talk trash about all of the teams on our schedule. Say how they have loser fans and an inferior team.

I want to talk about how 121 is going to pull together, work all summer and show out starting Sept. 4th all the way thru till Atlanta Jan. 8th.

I have yet to see a player's interview from SEC MD 17. Could someone please direct me to them or link somewhere on Volnation.
Google is my friend but has been on vacation(Unsuccessful attempts have been made.).[/QUOTE]

I've been watching for our player interviews, andI didn't find anything on google. I'd also appreciate a link, if anyone has one!
 
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Boca Vol said:
The previous guy, Szerszen, was with Butch at Cincy since he arrived there. All last summer we saw tweets and vids of players looking jacked. Even rival fans I would talk to said that UT "looks" like a football team.

So was UT a Ford F350 with a Yugo engine?

Here's to Rock building them from the inside out! Go get 'em Rock!
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I'm all good with Rock and believe he has the experience and bona fides to do a great job with our players

That said, gonna hold my powder until I see the results in September. Here's one reason why....

https://www.google.com/amp/s/tennes...chael-Szerszen-as-strength-coach-45181591/Amp

“Mike’s been an individual who’s been in our program and understands it, but he’s also been a student of strength and conditioning. He had numerous opportunities this year in the National Football League, and our players believe in him.”

“Trust is very important in any organization, obviously, but in our football program, you know, that’s the lifeline of our football program, is trust,” Jones said. “Trust is earned over time, and Mike has earned that trust, and he’s earned the trust of our players. I know they’re excited about training, and then the individuals that aren’t, obviously they’re back home training, as well. There’s a commitment level like no other that we’ve had so far going into the summer."
 
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