Recruiting forum off topic thread (merged)

[WinginFlorida]

Well remember he is gonna cut the dept of commerce twice. Haha

In seriousness, though, a LOT of cuts are needed. IMO anyways

I have a very good friend of mine who is a leading surgeon in Central Florida. A very intelligent, pragmatic and down-to-earth guy. You talk to him about this and he just shrugs. His feeling is America is going to have to completely break before it gets fixed. It's been about 2 years since he said that to me...and as time slips by, I'm beginning to think he's right.

 

[volssam]

I have a very good friend of mine who is a leading surgeon in Central Florida. A very intelligent, pragmatic and down-to-earth guy. You talk to him about this and he just shrugs. His feeling is America is going to have to completely break before it gets fixed. It's been about 2 years since he said that to me...and as time slips by, I'm beginning to think he's right.

Sadly, he probably is right. People as a whole are too self-serving and self-interested and self-absorbed either to realize that the country is on the brink, or to even care that it is as long as they keep getting what they want.

 

[74volz]

74volz -

On your post earlier about Cruz and him not being liked by republicans (and it goes without needing to be said, democrats)...

Again that's what I like about him. What has been being done is. Not. Working. And we always hear we need someone who can compromise and work with everyone and yada yada. Again that's always said and what's going on is not working. We need someone with new ideas and sticks to his guns IMO. We need to try something new.
Our country is at a critical dire crossroads and we need someone who has big ideas for big solutions. Cruz is that guy IMO.

But alas, as you said, you likely won't change your opinion on him. And many won't. But I encourage everyone who will be voting to look at each candidate's ideas and also at their track record to determine if they will back up what they're saying or if they're just talking to attract votes.

Well, that's the point. If he's not respected on both sides of the party how is he going to get anything done? I understand standing up for what you believe in, but I do believe in flexibility. Not one person/candidate is ever right in every single topic/idea/"promise if I make office" they come up with. Every candidate has an agenda to become the most powerful person in America or the world. They all say whatever it takes to gain that power. Why do you think Trump is in it? Simply for power. You have to bend not break, but the Washington dance is with congress not us the people. Cruz is so rigid in his beliefs that when a lot can be wrong and proven wrong it seems he won't care. Sorry just can't support that at all.

But I'd like to know what seems to be so critical in terms of the country to you. Debt? Spending? Economy? Handling of wars right now? You have 4 kids, does global warming concern you for the future for your kids? Monsanto, creators of Agent Orange and GMO's proven to be cause major health problems found in all our food now concern the health of your kids, friends and family? There's plenty more topics, but just curious.

Please, by all means don't take this as attacking questions. A message board can get out of hand quickly. I've done that stupidly on here. I'd be asking these questions very calmly face to face..

 

[Tennessee Golfer]

Well, that's the point. If he's not respected on both sides of the party how is he going to get anything done? I understand standing up for what you believe in, but I do believe in flexibility. Not one person/candidate is ever right in every single topic/idea/"promise if I make office" they come up with. Every candidate has an agenda to become the most powerful person in America or the world. They all say whatever it takes to gain that power. Why do you think Trump is in it? Simply for power. You have to bend not break, but the Washington dance is with congress not us the people. Cruz is so rigid in his beliefs that when a lot can be wrong and proven wrong it seems he won't care. Sorry just can't support that at all.

But I'd like to know what seems to be so critical in terms of the country to you. Debt? Spending? Economy? Handling of wars right now? You have 4 kids, does global warming concern you for the future for your kids? Monsanto, creators of Agent Orange and GMO's proven to be cause major health problems found in all our food now concern the health of your kids, friends and family? There's plenty more topics, but just curious.

Please, by all means don't take this as attacking questions. A message board can get out of hand quickly. I've done that stupidly on here. I'd be asking these questions very calmly face to face..

Economy, National Security, Healthcare

 

[Skullbone]

:rock:

74volz -

On your post earlier about Cruz and him not being liked by republicans (and it goes without needing to be said, democrats)...

Again that's what I like about him. What has been being done is. Not. Working. And we always hear we need someone who can compromise and work with everyone and yada yada. Again that's always said and what's going on is not working. We need someone with new ideas and sticks to his guns IMO. We need to try something new.
Our country is at a critical dire crossroads and we need someone who has big ideas for big solutions. Cruz is that guy IMO.

But alas, as you said, you likely won't change your opinion on him. And many won't. But I encourage everyone who will be voting to look at each candidate's ideas and also at their track record to determine if they will back up what they're saying or if they're just talking to attract votes.

:salute: Hi five! I definitely will be voting for Ted Cruz.

 

[volssam]

Well, that's the point. If he's not respected on both sides of the party how is he going to get anything done? I understand standing up for what you believe in, but I do believe in flexibility. Not one person/candidate is ever right in every single topic/idea/"promise if I make office" they come up with. Every candidate has an agenda to become the most powerful person in America or the world. They all say whatever it takes to gain that power. Why do you think Trump is in it? Simply for power. You have to bend not break, but the Washington dance is with congress not us the people. Cruz is so rigid in his beliefs that when a lot can be wrong and proven wrong it seems he won't care. Sorry just can't support that at all.

But I'd like to know what seems to be so critical in terms of the country to you. Debt? Spending? Economy? Handling of wars right now? You have 4 kids, does global warming concern you for the future for your kids? Monsanto, creators of Agent Orange and GMO's proven to be cause major health problems found in all our food now concern the health of your kids, friends and family? There's plenty more topics, but just curious.

Please, by all means don't take this as attacking questions. A message board can get out of hand quickly. I've done that stupidly on here. I'd be asking these questions very calmly face to face..

The first issues for me for any candidate are religious/morality issues. If a candidate doesn't pass my standards there, they can't get my vote.

After that:
Economy, taxes, debt, healthcare, national security, immigration, energy independence, limited government, entitlement reform, religious freedom/right of conscience are all yuuuuge issues.

Global warming/climate change/whatever they're calling it now is a hoax and a power grab for more control and for more money from gullible and/or blind followers, in my opinion. I don't think there is actual science/facts to back it up. In fact the data suggests the opposite. From what I understand, The "science" they claim to use are computer models and a conglomerate of scientists hypothesizing on what they think/believe about it.

 

[74volz]

The first issues for me for any candidate are religious/morality issues. If a candidate doesn't pass my standards there, they can't get my vote.

After that:
Economy, taxes, debt, healthcare, national security, immigration, energy independence, limited government, entitlement reform, religious freedom/right of conscience are all yuuuuge issues.

Global warming/climate change/whatever they're calling it now is a hoax and a power grab for more control and for more money from gullible and/or blind followers, in my opinion. I don't think there is actual science/facts to back it up. In fact the data suggests the opposite. From what I understand, The "science" they claim to use are computer models and a conglomerate of scientists hypothesizing on what they think/believe about it.

Ahhhhhh. Ok. Got it. All I needed. Thanks man.

 

[volssam]

Ahhhhhh. Ok. Got it. All I needed. Thanks man.

I will not respond to what I perceive as a sarcastic type post from you (unless I am mistaken. If so I apologize). I believe I know what you're thinking about me. And that's ok. Everyone has the right to their opinion.

So What about you?

What issues are you basing your vote on?

 

[volssam]

So many people seem to just accept global warming as a true fact now. The liberal educators and media and politicians have done a good job with it in that respect.

But where is the hard and fast data to actually back it up? It's missing. It drives me crazy how people assume it's true and allow people to get away with stating it like it's a
real thing.

 

[volssam]

Anyways, I think I am done with checking this thread. I have too much already going on in my life to worry about a political debate on a message board where no one is likely to change their opinion anyways.

Guys, seriously, If I offended anyone with my perceived tone (hard to get across the intended tone of a post in a format like this, ha, which 74 volz alluded to earlier also),
I apologize.

Also, I apologize if I got any info that I posted wrong, If it was wrong I didn't intend it to be. I strive to be honest in my life, and to teach my kids that always telling the truth is a must, no matter what.

Anyways, So I'm done with checking back here, at least for several days. May God bless America with good leaders. Go Big Orange!

 

[WinginFlorida]

But I'd like to know what seems to be so critical in terms of the country to you. Debt? Spending? Economy? Handling of wars right now? You have 4 kids, does global warming concern you for the future for your kids? Monsanto, creators of Agent Orange and GMO's proven to be cause major health problems found in all our food now concern the health of your kids, friends and family? There's plenty more topics, but just curious.

I'd settle for a leader. I look back on my life (60+ years) and I can't recall a time when we were so desperately in need of leadership, and this extends to to the rest of the world as well. To me, this explains why our government accomplishes very little and an individual like Vladimir Putin becomes powerful.

I'm not saying Putin is our biggest problem or issue, I'm simply using him as an example...if you create a void or allow one to exist, you can expect someone or something is going to come along to fill it and it's not going to be in everyone's best interests.

 

[74volz]

I will not respond to what I perceive as a sarcastic type post from you (unless I am mistaken. If so I apologize). I believe I know what you're thinking about me. And that's ok. Everyone has the right to their opinion.

So What about you?

What issues are you basing your vote on?

No no, my bad. I was just taking in the information. You're totally right to believe in what you believe. I'm fine with it. Typing it out came across as sarcastic. Didn't mean to. I was just curious and now I see why you like Cruz so much. Which is fine.

 

[Vols4us]

So many people seem to just accept global warming as a true fact now. The liberal educators and media and politicians have done a good job with it in that respect.

But where is the hard and fast data to actually back it up? It's missing. It drives me crazy how people assume it's true and allow people to get away with stating it like it's a
real thing.

You are not checking back for awhile - but you are correct. They theorize everything, then the "theory" slow evolves into a fact that has never been proven. They use flawed dating processes to tell everybody the age of universes spotted from a telescope in space when that cannot even properly age fossils on earth. They cannot even accurately predict the weather day to day. They call it science before and after they are proven wrong. Yet when faced with the evidence of creation and of God, they cry out in anger and hate.

Nothing new under the sun. They did it thousands of years ago, they do it now. It's about power and financial gain. Many people have limited ability to think for themselves and believe anything that is said without questioning and proof being required.

 

[engineerVOL]

Clay Travis examines the Mizzou claims...

Is the entire Mizzou Protest Based on Lies? | FOX Sports

 

[beachbums624]

First let me say . I am not a hillary supporter , I am not on welfare , hell i am not even a democrat . The pubbies have gone so far out there . I see no way a Pub candidate can go looney tunes right enough to excite the libertarians/teaparty , christianity is the only religion group . To ever come back to center enough to win a National election .

 

[volatil]

Clay Travis examines the Mizzou claims...

Is the entire Mizzou Protest Based on Lies? | FOX Sports

This is exactly what I posted the other day that I hoped to be the case. I hoped the President had zero to do with anything and files a huge suit against the university and state.

Everyone involved should be expelled or fired. Looking at you Gary Pinkel

 

[engineerVOL]

This is exactly what I posted the other day that I hoped to be the case. I hoped the President had zero to do with anything and files a huge suit against the university and state.

Everyone involved should be expelled or fired. Looking at you Gary Pinkel

Gary Pinkel definitely needs to address this if it all turns out to be a hoax. Now I know he's not on the university payroll nor is he under contract to the president but it still smells like insubordination. Definitely for r professor who helped the protest.

 

[Skullbone]

First let me say . I am not a hillary supporter , I am not on welfare , hell i am not even a democrat . The pubbies have gone so far out there . I see no way a Pub candidate can go looney tunes right enough to excite the libertarians/teaparty , christianity is the only religion group . To ever come back to center enough to win a National election .

You may not call yourself a Democrat, but you sure sound like one. Here's a test: If you think the tea party is an ignorant, racist group but think anyone in the Democrat party right now is centered, you're a Democrat.
Conservatism is not "far out there" It's what used to be called normal and common sense. What's wrong with the Republican party now is that they've gone too far left following the Democrat Party.
Today's Democrat Party is an old school, hate traditional America, Marxist party. The leadership consists of people who were raised and taught and mentored by card carrying communists. Being half Marxist and half traditional America hating is not being "center" or moderate. Trying to pander to the "center" lost the Republicans the last two elections. Mitt Romney won the vote amongst the coveted "independents" yet still lost the election because he's a RINO and Republican voters stayed home. If a real conservative runs we can and will win. If people who call themselves independents who will knowingly never vote Republican anyways influence the Republican party nominee resulting in a Jeb Bush or John Kasich we will most certainly lose. Again.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Anyways, I think I am done with checking this thread. I have too much already going on in my life to worry about a political debate on a message board where no one is likely to change their opinion anyways.

Guys, seriously, If I offended anyone with my perceived tone (hard to get across the intended tone of a post in a format like this, ha, which 74 volz alluded to earlier also),
I apologize.

Also, I apologize if I got any info that I posted wrong, If it was wrong I didn't intend it to be. I strive to be honest in my life, and to teach my kids that always telling the truth is a must, no matter what.

Anyways, So I'm done with checking back here, at least for several days. May God bless America with good leaders. Go Big Orange!

I agree with you Sam. Is the world getting warmer? I think the data shows it. Heck, not to long ago, relatively speaking, we were in an ice age and wooly mammoths were roaming north America. I guess the question is, what caused/is causing it. Obviously human generated green house gases wasn't the cause 20,000 years ago. I think the earth's climate is cyclical over 1000s of years. JMO

 

[InVOLuntary]

Also Sam, I don't know how you could have been less confrontational and offensive than you were.

 

[Vol464]

Also Sam, I don't know how you could have been less confrontational and offensive than you were.

Anybody that has a problem with Sam it's their problem.

 

[Dust10]

Glad to see this thread get more action, even if it is politics. Hopefully this will be a fun place for the RF regulars this offseason.

 

[SmokeyX]

You may not call yourself a Democrat, but you sure sound like one. Here's a test: If you think the tea party is an ignorant, racist group but think anyone in the Democrat party right now is centered, you're a Democrat.
Conservatism is not "far out there" It's what used to be called normal and common sense. What's wrong with the Republican party now is that they've gone too far left following the Democrat Party.
Today's Democrat Party is an old school, hate traditional America, Marxist party. The leadership consists of people who were raised and taught and mentored by card carrying communists. Being half Marxist and half traditional America hating is not being "center" or moderate. Trying to pander to the "center" lost the Republicans the last two elections. Mitt Romney won the vote amongst the coveted "independents" yet still lost the election because he's a RHINO and Republican voters stayed home. If a real conservative runs we can and will win. If people who call themselves independents who will knowingly never vote Republican anyways influence the Republican party nominee resulting in a Jeb Bush or John Kasich we will most certainly lose. Again.

What does an ideal presidential candidate look like to you?

 

[74volz]

So many people seem to just accept global warming as a true fact now. The liberal educators and media and politicians have done a good job with it in that respect.

But where is the hard and fast data to actually back it up? It's missing. It drives me crazy how people assume it's true and allow people to get away with stating it like it's a
real thing.

Well here's one of my beliefs/issues. Yes, I believe humans on this earth have made an impact to cause global warming. There's plenty of scientific facts and documentaries. A great one is Years of Living Dangerously. I could post links all day long showing proof, but it probably won't convince you. You're already convinced it doesn't exist. And I get it.

The number one pollution in the world is over population. And to think that as much as we pump toxic smoke in the air from industrialization, coal, oil etc., the thickness of smog that hovers over major cities all over the country/world and especially in China, polluting the waters, oceans, constant deforestation, greenhouse gases, etc.... that everything is just fine. Is just crazy talk. We are definitely contributing there's just no way around it. The pollution of people the more resources are needed. The more resources the more dirty coal and oil and fracking are needed that cause major harm to the environment. Humans cause pollution, it's what we do and have always done especially since the start of the industrial revolution. There's no slowing down in population hence there'll be more pollution that will affect the earth. But none of that matters cause it's all "lies", right? The Koch brothers are the huge component in these lies being pumped out cause they don't want anything to happen to their billion dollar industry. Keep that in mind.

Bottom line is I believe in global warming cause I care about the only planet we live on and I understand why you don't. But could we agree, belief or myth, that using renewable sources like wind and solar, becoming less dependent on foreign oil, off shore drilling and dirty coal could be the best strategy for this country. To be more dependent on our own renewable resources that doesn't impact the environment/earth/ people's health in a horrible way. And especially go to war for oil. The technology is there, the millions of new jobs are there and to be more of a independent country for our own energy sources could be beneficial in a major way to so many people. There's a future to cleaner energy just have to get it started.

 

[Skullbone]

What does an ideal presidential candidate look like to you?