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You may not call yourself a Democrat, but you sure sound like one. Here's a test: If you think the tea party is an ignorant, racist group but think anyone in the Democrat party right now is centered, you're a Democrat.
Conservatism is not "far out there" It's what used to be called normal and common sense. What's wrong with the Republican party now is that they've gone too far left following the Democrat Party.
Today's Democrat Party is an old school, hate traditional America, Marxist party. The leadership consists of people who were raised and taught and mentored by card carrying communists. Being half Marxist and half traditional America hating is not being "center" or moderate. Trying to pander to the "center" lost the Republicans the last two elections. Mitt Romney won the vote amongst the coveted "independents" yet still lost the election because he's a RHINO and Republican voters stayed home. If a real conservative runs we can and will win. If people who call themselves independents who will knowingly never vote Republican anyways influence the Republican party nominee resulting in a Jeb Bush or John Kasich we will most certainly lose. Again.

I changed from being a Republican when they went totally insane . If you hear a guy talking about RINO's blabbering about the " liberal media " " REAL conservatives" . You are not talking to a Republican .

I told you up front I was not a Dem I did that just for people like you . I can get everything you just said by turning on Fox .
Edit : The trying to pander to the center thing . 37% will vote pubbie across the nation . NO questions asked .

You need some help from somebody , alienating the rest of the population is not going to get that for you . That whole democrat socialist communist thing you got going ? Is not the answer .
 
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Go Cruz!
 
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I changed from being a Republican when they went totally insane . If you hear a guy talking about RINO's blabbering about the " liberal media " " REAL conservatives" . You are not talking to a Republican .

I told you up front I was not a Dem I did that just for people like you . I can get everything you just said by turning on Fox .
Edit : The trying to pander to the center thing . 37% will vote pubbie across the nation . NO questions asked .

You need some help from somebody , alienating the rest of the population is not going to get that for you . That whole democrat socialist communist thing you got going ? Is not the answer .

No. I strongly disagree. You absolutely cannot get what I said on Fox. Fox is actually pretty simpatico with you overall.
 
I don't get what the pyramids have to do with anything about running for President.

Destroying emails and lies about an attack on Benghazi should be a focus instead of pyramids.

Infadelity in one's household another. Can't run a home but going to run a country.

This is jumping way back in conversation, but I felt the need to clarify that I wouldn't vote for Hillary if I was on fire and the voting booth was equipped with a bucket of water that would extinguish me with her vote.
 
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Pretty sure I would go third party if bush wins. Trump too.

I disagree on your take on Cruz. I think he would dominate, I mean absolutely destroy, hilary in debates. The question would be if enough of the voters would even pay attention or if they would just tune out and remain ignorant on issues and just pull the lever to brag that they voted, and that they voted for hilary Clinton.

Carson does make me nervous in the way he communicates and debates. I agree with him on almost everything. But I just don't think he is clear on getting his points across (maybe he should enlist bruin as his debate prepper. Haha)

Debates have never mattered in the general election, unless someone says something massively stupid.
 
This country has seen its best days fellers..the majority of the population is going to keep voting Democrat. The Repubs will have to disavow any connection to socially conservative Christian belief to win. The core values of the USA has changed, we are as ancient Israel...A nation who has not only forgotten God, but openly mock him and his truths...this makes me sad beyond any words to express, so much potential wasted..��
 
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this country has seen its best days fellers..the majority of the population is going to keep voting democrat. The repubs will have to disavow any connection to socially conservative christian belief to win. The core values of the usa has changed, we are as ancient israel...a nation who has not only forgotten god, but openly mock him and his truths...this makes me sad beyond any words to express, so much potential wasted..��

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This country has seen its best days fellers..the majority of the population is going to keep voting Democrat. The Repubs will have to disavow any connection to socially conservative Christian belief to win. The core values of the USA has changed, we are as ancient Israel...A nation who has not only forgotten God, but openly mock him and his truths...this makes me sad beyond any words to express, so much potential wasted..��


I am deeply disturbed at how many openly embrace socialism and mock the principles and foundations this country was founded on.
 
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True Christianity is pure compassion and care fir your fellow man, Philippians 2:4-5 "Look not every man in his own things, but every man also on the things of others...Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus."...but the government taking your money, and giving it to causes you don't believe really help anybody is theft. Call it Socialism or whatever you want.
 
True Christianity is pure compassion and care fir your fellow man, Philippians 2:4-5 "Look not every man in his own things, but every man also on the things of others...Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus."...but the government taking your money, and giving it to causes you don't believe really help anybody is theft. Call it Socialism or whatever you want.

Exactly
 
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True Christianity is pure compassion and care fir your fellow man, Philippians 2:4-5 "Look not every man in his own things, but every man also on the things of others...Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus."...but the government taking your money, and giving it to causes you don't believe really help anybody is theft. Call it Socialism or whatever you want.

Taxes going toward corporate welfare being a good example
 
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True Christianity is pure compassion and care fir your fellow man, Philippians 2:4-5 "Look not every man in his own things, but every man also on the things of others...Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus."...but the government taking your money, and giving it to causes you don't believe really help anybody is theft. Call it Socialism or whatever you want.

Didn't Jesus also say give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to submit to authority?:ermm::ermm::ermm:
 
Didn't Jesus also say give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to submit to authority?:ermm::ermm::ermm:

Yes. That's why we pay the taxes we legally owe. However, we also (for now) have the freedom to say that the way the government is being run is wrong and why it is wrong.
 
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What about all the "socialist" policies FDR enacted? We have had socialist ideas applied to capitalism for over 70 years now. Without it you have fascism.

I despise fdr for that reason. People celebrate social security like it's a good thing to get about 1/4 of the return on investment you could get in the private sector. His socialist policies were awful.

And no, you don't have fascism. Is that like the new trendy catch all that's supposed to mean "any form of government that I don't like?"

Fascism involves massive amounts of government power, intervention, and control, which is the opposite of capitalism. Interventionist policies is a foundation of fascist economy.
 
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Yes,and we do..or we're supposed to. But I was under the impression none of us wants the USA to be a evil despotic dictatorship like the Roman Empire. Also that submission only goes so far. We will not deny God, or his word in submission.
 
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