Recruiting Forum Off Topic Thread III

[UTProf]

Safe spaces and participation trophies aren't limited to well-off white people.

No, but I don't think it's nearly as prevalent as it's portrayed and the label itself tends to denote being spoiled. However, every generation claims the next one is spoiled.

 

[VolGee4]

How do you embed twitter again? Gen Xers aren’t great with change

That's why I am not a mellenial. I have no clue.

 

[UTProf]

That's why I am not a mellenial. I have no clue.

You and Volatil:

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[butchna]

How do you embed twitter again? Gen Xers aren’t great with change

When you paste the Twitter link, delete all but the numbers...then put the [ Twitter][/ Twitter] on the front and end (without spaces of course).

 

[ChismsHeadband]

This exactly.

Technology reaches us at different paces. Sort of like me learning computer programming in middle school while orangeblood79 had typewriting in high school. Using those two bits from our past you'd think orangeblood was older but I'm older than him. I just happened to have access.

Also even though I had dial-up as a teen/young adult, I quickly moved onto ADSL and made use of UT's T-lines. Living in Knoxville meant that was available but elsewhere ADSL wasn't accessible and T-lines are still rare outside of college campuses and silicone valley.

As for Millenials... I think the problem with that label is that an entire generation got stereotyped based on the behavior of very well-off/upper class white kids and their parents (e.g. helicopter parents) behaviors. There's an upper middle class/private school/Ivy League feel to the label put on that generation that isn't fair. It's probably the most unfairly maligned generation right now. I don't know many who actually fit the stereotypes we have of that generation.

People like to pretend that only Millennials "require" praise and instant gratification.

Everyone needs some praise, and anyone who has a microwave is conditioned towards instant gratification.

A lot of Millennials are resourceful, hardnosed, determined, too. But some of those adjectives are perceived to "better describe" older generations.

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

Yea, I understand. I know it's subjective. But I was shocked to see a mellenial as starting in 1981.

I won't get into economic disparities, but there aren't many people who are in their mid 20's who had dial up in middle school. Once I got to UT in 1998, things were moving on from dial up. I saw a star that only about a third of the population was using dial up in 2000.

There are plenty, actually. Mostly people who didn’t grow up in cities or suburbs. I think geographic disparities is probably a bigger issue than economic disparities. Of course a college campus was moving on more quickly and a lot of businesses upgraded because of the phone line hassle, but broadband didn’t become the household standard in a lot of places until a few years into the 2000s. I grew up in a town of about 30-40 thousand and didn’t have broadband at home until 2005, which wasn’t uncommon there.


I’d be interested to see that stat. By 2000 I’m not sure what percent of the population was even using the internet that regularly anyway. It would be high, of course, but nowhere near what it is today. In 2000 there were still plenty who thought the Internet was a fad that would die out.

 

[Brillovol]

There are plenty, actually. Mostly people who didn’t grow up in cities or suburbs. I think geographic disparities is probably a bigger issue than economic disparities. Of course a college campus was moving on more quickly and a lot of businesses upgraded because of the phone line hassle, but broadband didn’t become the household standard in a lot of places until a few years into the 2000s. I grew up in a town of about 30-40 thousand and didn’t have broadband at home until 2005, which wasn’t uncommon there.


I’d be interested to see that stat. By 2000 I’m not sure what percent of the population was even using the internet that regularly anyway. It would be high, of course, but nowhere near what it is today. In 2000 there were still plenty who thought the Internet was a fad that would die out.

Count me as one born in 1981 with dial up until 22 years of age in 2003 (commuted from home to college), although I used the internet in the computer labs at Tech frequently. Heck we had rabbit ears and no internet at all until about 2000.

Frankly I don’t identify with either X or Millenials, though my older coworkers like to call me a Millenial when I use Excel instead of a calculator.

 

[VolGee4]

There are plenty, actually. Mostly people who didn’t grow up in cities or suburbs. I think geographic disparities is probably a bigger issue than economic disparities. Of course a college campus was moving on more quickly and a lot of businesses upgraded because of the phone line hassle, but broadband didn’t become the household standard in a lot of places until a few years into the 2000s. I grew up in a town of about 30-40 thousand and didn’t have broadband at home until 2005, which wasn’t uncommon there.


I’d be interested to see that stat. By 2000 I’m not sure what percent of the population was even using the internet that regularly anyway. It would be high, of course, but nowhere near what it is today. In 2000 there were still plenty who thought the Internet was a fad that would die out.

Yea, I understand. I just happened to start college when it was becoming popular to use the internet on a daily basis. You also have to take into consideration that older people weren't taking to the internet because they weren't changing their ways. That would skew the overall numbers.

Here is something I found with statistics regarding use of the internet since 2000 based on age groups.

• U.S. internet penetration by age group 2000-2016 | Statistic

Bottom line is I hadn't heard the term "mellenial" until just a few years ago, and I will believe them to be the tech savy youngsters who are around 30 and under. I don't use FB, Twitter, or Instagram, and that really doesn't mean much, but I just don't consider myself close to that group.

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

Yea, I understand. I just happened to start college when it was becoming popular to use the internet on a daily basis. You also have to take into consideration that older people weren't taking to the internet because they weren't changing their ways. That would skew the overall numbers.

Here is something I found with statistics regarding use of the internet since 2000 based on age groups.

• U.S. internet penetration by age group 2000-2016 | Statistic

Bottom line is I hadn't heard the term "mellenial" until just a few years ago, and I will believe them to be the tech savy youngsters who are around 30 and under. I don't use FB, Twitter, or Instagram, and that really doesn't mean much, but I just don't consider myself close to that group.

That wouldn’t really skew the numbers, though. It would just reflect them.

Those stats are interesting though (though they say nothing about household internet connections, just internet use). Someone who was in middle school/high school in the early 2000s lived in a world where a sizeable minority of people 50+ years old and very few over 65 used the Internet.

People in middle and high school today virtually everybody under 65 uses the Internet and a majority over 65 do as well.

I don’t really disagree with your definition of millennial. I just think it’s pretty subjective is all. You can come up with a lot of different reasons (all of which can be both valid and conflicting) on where exactly to draw a cutoff or starting line for a generation.

 

[Sleegro]

Yea, I understand. I just happened to start college when it was becoming popular to use the internet on a daily basis. You also have to take into consideration that older people weren't taking to the internet because they weren't changing their ways. That would skew the overall numbers.

Here is something I found with statistics regarding use of the internet since 2000 based on age groups.

• U.S. internet penetration by age group 2000-2016 | Statistic

Bottom line is I hadn't heard the term "mellenial" until just a few years ago, and I will believe them to be the tech savy youngsters who are around 30 and under. I don't use FB, Twitter, or Instagram, and that really doesn't mean much, but I just don't consider myself close to that group.

I'm in that same between age. And I never heard the term millennials till recently either. Growing up they grouped me in x. I've tried to figure out when they came up with the label millennials but haven't been able to narrow it down. Probably because I'm not millennial enough to properly Google. I'm only half good at it. Haha

 

[ChattaTNVol]

Yea, I understand. I just happened to start college when it was becoming popular to use the internet on a daily basis. You also have to take into consideration that older people weren't taking to the internet because they weren't changing their ways. That would skew the overall numbers.

Here is something I found with statistics regarding use of the internet since 2000 based on age groups.

• U.S. internet penetration by age group 2000-2016 | Statistic


Bottom line is I hadn't heard the term "mellenial" until just a few years ago, and I will believe them to be the tech savy youngsters who are around 30 and under. I don't use FB, Twitter, or Instagram, and that really doesn't mean much, but I just don't consider myself close to that group.

I had compuserve in 1983 I think and a short time later signed up for prodigy. I think I was late to AOL but eventually made the jump. Those were the horse and buggy days. I went from dial-up to ISDN then to DSL & Cable with a Dual Wan Router (backup internet).

I remember when my brother-in-law bought his family their first computer in '99. I figured the tech boom was over at that point because he was someone I thought would be the last adopter.

My first cell phone was I think '94 and by '99 I had a not so dumb phone. I could get news and stock quotes and stuff when I was on the golf course.

In 2009 my niece made a facebook page for me but after a few weeks of witnessing the online social behaviors of my friends and family, I figured that was just too much information for me. A couple years later after having been a lurker for a number of years, I join the whacko bunch here at VolNation. This way I can still be considered a participant in social media - just in my case, someone with exceptionally refined and cultured taste.

 

[tomq_123]

Count me as one born in 1981 with dial up until 22 years of age in 2003 (commuted from home to college), although I used the internet in the computer labs at Tech frequently. Heck we had rabbit ears and no internet at all until about 2000.

Frankly I don’t identify with either X or Millenials, though my older coworkers like to call me a Millenial when I use Excel instead of a calculator.

Ah, youngters. My first home computer (Atari 800) in 1982 had a 300 baud acoustic coupler modem (like in the movie War Games). I used to tie up our phone line for hours on BBS's and dowloading games.

 

[UTProf]

I'm in that same between age. And I never heard the term millennials till recently either. Growing up they grouped me in x. I've tried to figure out when they came up with the label millennials but haven't been able to narrow it down. Probably because I'm not millennial enough to properly Google. I'm only half good at it. Haha

Do either of you remember Generation Y? That's what they called non-Gen Xers until someone popularized Millennial.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I'm in that same between age. And I never heard the term millennials till recently either. Growing up they grouped me in x. I've tried to figure out when they came up with the label millennials but haven't been able to narrow it down. Probably because I'm not millennial enough to properly Google. I'm only half good at it. Haha

It seems like not that long ago I was reading a Time article on Gen X and realized that I was one of them...that was like 25 years ago and I blinked and now I'm 50 and staring old age in it's dark hollow eyes..

 

[drvenner]

I had compuserve in 1983 I think and a short time later signed up for prodigy. I think I was late to AOL but eventually made the jump. Those were the horse and buggy days. I went from dial-up to ISDN then to DSL & Cable with a Dual Wan Router (backup internet).

I remember when my brother-in-law bought his family their first computer in '99. I figured the tech boom was over at that point because he was someone I thought would be the last adopter.

My first cell phone was I think '94 and by '99 I had a not so dumb phone. I could get news and stock quotes and stuff when I was on the golf course.

In 2009 my niece made a facebook page for me but after a few weeks of witnessing the online social behaviors of my friends and family, I figured that was just too much information for me. A couple years later after having been a lurker for a number of years, I join the whacko bunch here at VolNation. This way I can still be considered a participant in social media - just in my case, someone with exceptionally refined and cultured taste.

I met my wife on AOL in 1997. 21 years and going strong.

 

[bignewt]

I met my wife on AOL in 1997. 21 years and going strong.

Met my wife on MySpace in 2006 lol going strong. I guess that's why I don't have facebook, no need.

 

[Sleegro]

Do either of you remember Generation Y? That's what they called non-Gen Xers until someone popularized Millennial.

Yeah I remember we made fun of generation Y because we were X, then millennial was made up and somehow included us according to some. I do find it weird that at least in my experience people my age and older don't refer to my age group as millennials but people younger than me always try to include me. I do feel like I'm between though. The best of both worlds. I like to tell people to get off my lawn but can also google how to say it in Canadian.

 

[jave36]

There is no way a person born from 1981-1985 can be considered a mellenial. One day, someone just picked out years out of thin air. I am just outside of it, but my peers are not mellenials. I was at least into my 30's until I even heard the word.

You can't be a teenager who had to use dial-up on AOL and IM others and still be a mellenial. Just can't.

That's actually exactly one of the defining traits of a millennial, having social interaction on the internet as a teenager.

 

[Sleegro]

That's actually exactly one of the defining traits of a millennial, having social interaction on the internet as a teenager.

I never did aol and didn't have a cell phone till sophomore year of college. Haha does a pager count?

 

[jave36]

I never did aol and didn't have a cell phone till sophomore year of college. Haha does a pager count?

LOL I didn't either, but being of an age where cell phones and internet social interaction were available is all that matters, even if some of us were late on adopting technology.

 

[VolGee4]

That's actually exactly one of the defining traits of a millennial, having social interaction on the internet as a teenager.

Someone just created that out of nowhere, and people ran with it. Millennials grew up with mostly broadband and wifi.

The only thing I did was be a member of VQ as a college student in 2000. Hubbs was a member of the Alliance Sports Network then. If that makes me a mellenial, then so be it.

 

[jave36]

Someone just created that out of nowhere, and people ran with it. Millennials grew up with mostly broadband and wifi.

The only thing I did was be a member of VQ as a college student in 2000. Hubbs was a member of the Alliance Sports Network then. If that makes me a mellenial, then so be it.

LOL no they didn't, demographers sat down and looked at some pivotal shifts in culture, like social internet interaction among others, and said that group is clearly different from Gen X. Old enough to remember pre-9/11 is another. Broadband vs dialup is no part of that discussion. In fact, if you don't remember dialup, only broadband and especially only Wi-Fi, you're probably more likely to be Gen Z, not Millennial.

There are some interesting articles about why 82 is approximately the cut off date for Gen X. Granted those people fit a closer stereotype to Gen X than Gen Y, but there ability to learn/comfort level with technology is usually a lot different.

 

[jakez4ut]

People can set the range at whatever they want but people born in the early to mid 80's aren't from the same planet as what I think of when someone says millenial.

here's what i think a millenial is...

anyone ranging from their mid 20's to early 30's that has finished their education and has continued to, or did, in any capacity, move back in with their parents for a year or longer, whilst also either not working, or working part time.

 

[Sleegro]

LOL no they didn't, demographers sat down and looked at some pivotal shifts in culture, like social internet interaction among others, and said that group is clearly different from Gen X. Old enough to remember pre-9/11 is another. Broadband vs dialup is no part of that discussion. In fact, if you don't remember dialup, only broadband and especially only Wi-Fi, you're probably more likely to be Gen Z, not Millennial.

There are some interesting articles about why 82 is approximately the cut off date for Gen X. Granted those people fit a closer stereotype to Gen X than Gen Y, but there ability to learn/comfort level with technology is usually a lot different.

Yeah that makes sense. I think the group between X and Y should be called the millennium falcons.

 

[VolGee4]

LOL no they didn't, demographers sat down and looked at some pivotal shifts in culture, like social internet interaction among others, and said that group is clearly different from Gen X. Old enough to remember pre-9/11 is another. Broadband vs dialup is no part of that discussion. In fact, if you don't remember dialup, only broadband and especially only Wi-Fi, you're probably more likely to be Gen Z, not Millennial.

There are some interesting articles about why 82 is approximately the cut off date for Gen X. Granted those people fit a closer stereotype to Gen X than Gen Y, but there ability to learn/comfort level with technology is usually a lot different.

You have added another generation in their. Gen Y? Gen Z? Where does millennial come in? Because the online definition of millennal is 1981 or 82, which is the very thing that I am disputing.

I keep seeing references to pre-9/11 as well, and I had almost graduated from college then. I was in Glocker watching the towers fall, so that is a vivid memory.

Anyway, it's interesting to discuss, but it is something that people create. I agree with one previous post is that some of it is probably for marketing reasons. The term millennial has not been around that long.