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volssam said:
But it's the party in each individual state making their own rules. It's not like the national party people got in years ago and said let's set up Colorado to be a firewall against trump. The state level people set up their own system.

If the people of Colorado don't like it, it's up to them to change it. It is what it is.

One of my main issues is, don't try to pile on Cruz and say he's corrupt when he is simply working within the parameters already set up and he's simply outworking trump
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You say he's not corrupt when he is simply working within, etc. Is that what you meant, that he's not corrupt if he doesn't break the parameters, follows the rules as they are, etc? What happens if the parameters are corrupt and he chooses not to take the high road, but to take advantage to the fullest extent possible? Please explain how that is not corrupt? Then go make sure you understand the definition of corrupt. The people of CO had no choice in changing it, another one of your suggestions above. The establishment party controlled it with the help of the elected party senators. It takes a little time and some elections to move them out.

in writing, there is verification of Cruz delegates getting listed twice and Trump's being deleted. The establishment GOP killed a vote in 2015 to correct the non-caucus caucus and make it a primary like it had been previous to 2004. Strange - didn't hear him voicing concerns about the process and voters' voices not being heard when that happened. We know why; it worked to his political advantage. He could have added his influence and expertise into helping CO making the change. He didn't. There have been many voting groups, GOP party members and citizens around the country pointing the issue out in the media for years, yet, they still cut out the voters and citizens of CO while Ted stood by and gloried in his "victory". C'mom man. You are a principled good guy. But, your arguments lack credibility when you ignore the obvious.
 
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Catbone said:
Ted Cruz getting elected will actually further destroy the future of the Republican party. The candidate we elect NEEDS to have some proven successes and ability to evolve the platform. Cruz exemplifies every negative stereotype that republicans have, and he is a hardline ideologue who happens to have a history of obstructionism.

His term would undoubtedly lead to an even worse PR situation for republicans as a whole, and close opportunities for republicans to get elected down the road.

Trump's ability to work across the aisle if need be to get things done and working again is imperative to restore the republican party's image in the eyes of the american people, liberals and conservatives alike. Additionally, Trump is bringing millions of new people into the party, which is critical to counteract the pure demographical outnumbering of conservatives in the US population right now.

Cruz will not bring new people in, represents no modern evolution of the conservative movement, and represents what the american people at large dislike about republicans. Nominating him would be a disaster.

He did not outwork anyone in Colorado or anywhere else delegate fraud is taking place. The corruption is deeper than he could possible leverage.

These people wrote the GOP delegate rulebook. No one knows it at the local level but them. You had to be involved in your local Republican Party for YEARS to get a delegate slot. People who are attracted to Trump don't waste their time like that. Slimy establishment Republicans do.

Cruz became their best shot to beat Trump based on his wins in Iowa and Texas. If Marco had come to this point ahead, this exact delegate tinkering would be happening for him. The local delegates sensed Cruz as their way to stop Trump, and they're flocking without any direct influence from the Cruz campaign.
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The Washington political machine cannot stand Cruz because he pushes the constitution. He is anathema to the politicos

Trump may not have a clue what the constitution represents.
 
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I guess Ted should have refused the delegates then?

As a possible future scenario, if it gets to the convention, and Kasich chooses to direct his delegates to Trump in exchange for a VP slot, I wonder if Trump will refuse them and say that that would disenfranchise the voters who voted for Kasich? Or disenfranchise the voters who would have picked Cruz as a second choice instead of Trump?

And again, I have said it is not the fair or legit way to do it. At least twice. So please be clear in that. I don't think it's fair.

And actually the most fair way would probably be to have all of them be proportional. But we don't see either Trump or Cruz or Kasich relinquishing their delegates won in winner-take-all states, do we? What about the 50+ % voters in FL who didn't vote for Trump? Are their voices to just be ignored? Or the 50+% voters in Ohio who didn't pick Kasich? Is it not fair that they don't get an equal say as those in other states who are proportioned out?

It is not a fair system all the way around. But it's the way it is set up. It doesn't make sense. But it is what it is. Trump and Cruz and Kasich all knew it or should have known it. I don't expect any of them to just sit by and let it go however it goes. You gotta fight for it. Now if there were dirty tricks, that would be disappointing and it shouldn't happen.
 
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Catbone said:
Your boy cruz will not be the nominee
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Not my boy.

I am saddened by the options for the next American President.

It's as if we had to choose from amonst donnie, azzanni, jancek, Sal, dooley, or kiffin to be the next Tennessee head coach in football. It would horrify me at the future of our program.

That's how I feel about this Presidential election, horrified.
 
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VolsDoc81TX said:
Not my boy.

I am saddened by the options for the next American President.

It's as if we had to choose from amonst donnie, azzanni, jancek, Sal, dooley, or kiffin to be the next Tennessee head coach in football. It would horrify me at the future of our program.

That's how I feel about this Presidential election, horrified.
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I yearn for the time when I can vote for someone that I truly believe in instead of voting for the least of two evils.
 
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Ron Swanson said:
"We will see Tee this weekend and catch up with him at the Rivals camp.

I still think it will be tough for anyone to end up with him besides Tennessee."

- Fortenberry
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Can we turn all the chicken littles into Nashville Hot Chicken, Colonel Sanders style?
 
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After having McCain and Romney the last two cycles, we have someone in Cruz who is a truly proven conservative to vote for, not someone pretending to be one just to court the base.

I will be beyond excited to vote for him, because I really believe in him and that he is very much what the country needs right now. Even Rush Limbaugh has said he is the closest to Reagan that we have had in our lifetime.

Other words from Rush on Cruz: (yes I know many are skeptical of Rush, as well, and even I get frustrated with him because he often takes up for Trump). But his words on Cruz:
"He understands conservatism because he is. And he is a nice guy, he's a likable guy. He's not crazy. He's not nasty and he certainly is -- he's not a liar. He's a down the middle guy that anybody could trust. He has got plenty of integrity. This is what happens in politics. Establishment doesn't like him either. It's not just Trump. And that's because he is who he is. He is conservative. He does want to get government out of people's lives, and that, we can't have that if you're the establishment."

Before anybody freaks out, if you check the context, when he says "down the middle" I believe he is not saying that about his policies/ideology but speaking more to his truthfulness/integrity.

Anyways, I think I'm gonna step away from the off-topic thread for a while, for a few days at least. I have way too much going on right now in life to keep up with and participate in the convos in here, even though I do feel these are important issues.

Anyways, I hope each person does their own research of the candidates before just believing what is coming from the media or social media or their friends or one site or other candidates. Look personally into them and their stances and their proven records. And then decide. And be thankful that we can do that and have the freedom to vote (unless you're in a primary in Colorado. 😜)

Take care, volnation. God bless you and America. Go Cruz! And Go Vols!
 
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InVOLuntary said:
I yearn for the time when I can vote for someone that I truly believe in instead of voting for the least of two evils.
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This, a thousand times over. The worst part is it does not have to be this way.

None of them fully realize how changes in communication are rocking the world. Instantaneous interaction with literally billions of people around the planet. They think they have to play the worldly game and they don't. It is in our nature to seek truth, whether we choose to believe it or not. It is a huge platform that can be used to consistently pound out the message. But it has to be committed to long term. This sound bite method will not win the war. Trump did well in terms of being heard because of all the work he put in doing other things for decades that were publicized. He developed his following and brand way before he ran for office. Those that would govern would be wiser to use that approach. He morphed his into a movement because of the groundwork. Whether the GOP does it for their anointed or the individuals do it for themselves, that is the way to create a groundswell of support. The traditional "ground game" of Cruz will only take you so far.
 
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VolsDoc81TX said:
Not my boy.

I am saddened by the options for the next American President.

It's as if we had to choose from amonst donnie, azzanni, jancek, Sal, dooley, or kiffin to be the next Tennessee head coach in football. It would horrify me at the future of our program.

That's how I feel about this Presidential election, horrified.
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Outstanding analogy, Doc. :good!:
 
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Ok, I personally think this was one the best lot of candidates to choose from in a Republican primary in along time. I hear a lot of you think it stinks, so I'm curious, who is it that each of you wish was running?
 
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butchna said:
Crap is hot garbage! Toxic paste. KFC blocked me on Facebook after a few of my "reviews". :yuck:
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Had some "Nashville Hot Chicken" at Jim N Nicks here in Suwanee. That stuff was horrible. I couldn't even eat it because of the spice. Whatever they did, they did it wrong.
 
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highspeed said:
It's pretty great. Be warned though, I have a pretty high tolerance for spiciness, and the medium is plenty hot.
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I have a weird threshold on that. Sometimes I can consume ghost peppers and other times jalapeños have me drinking a lot of water. Medium should be fine.
 
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butchna said:
I have a weird threshold on that. Sometimes I can consume ghost peppers and other times jalapeños have me drinking a lot of water. Medium should be fine.
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Last week I had their standard Xtra Hot. Wasn't hot enough for me. Next time I'm doing their XXX Hot. Mmmmm ghost peppers. I have a few ghost pepper plants growing currently :yes:
 
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bignewt said:
20% is 100% better than those other clowns I'm guessing.
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Major issues I have with him:

Wants to raise the retirement age to 70 or 72. That's akin to companies robbing people of their pension. Average age of death is 75. People get to draw for three years after paying in over a lifetime?

Reducing our military by 43%? Really?

Wants to reduce the federal budget by almost 50%? I'm all for a smaller government but that's laughable.

Wants to open the borders with Mexico? This stands on its own.

Wants Dr's to be able to prescribe heroin?

I've seen enough. And, my leanings are libertarian.
 
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