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Haters gonna hate and show their silliness. Why don't you doubters mail in a list of appropriate drills the modern QB needs to work on so Coach DeBord can implement them posthaste.
 
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JAL said:
Yeah, because an OC is NEVER allowed to coach up his QBs. They have no idea what the position requires.
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That's like saying a DC can coach any defensive position. All coordinators coach all the mental aspects of positions, but every position has technical aspects that need a position coach who knows the technique of that position.

Surely you don't think any coordinator could easily coach any position just because he's a coordinator?
 
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JAL said:
Yeah, because an OC is NEVER allowed to coach up his QBs. They have no idea what the position requires.
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Exactly. Cheney was a "rb" coach here but spent his time with qbs. I do not believe CBJ would hire someone with no qb coaching experience. Jmo

Debord will be fine and will fit in. Most likely in it for the long haul. I didn't like the hire at first bc I wanted a homerun. Then I thought, What if that homerun left for another job or his dream of coaching in the nfl in a cpl years?
 
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jave36 said:
That's like saying a DC can coach any defensive position. All coordinators coach all the mental aspects of positions, but every position has technical aspects that need a position coach who knows the technique of that position.

Surely you don't think any coordinator could easily coach any position just because he's a coordinator?
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It's actually not as difficult as it might seem to learn and teach several positions. A good offensive coordinator knows every assignment and can assess technique for all his players. I believe it's a requirement to call a good game and evaluate your offense each week, jmo.
 
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jave36 said:
That's like saying a DC can coach any defensive position. All coordinators coach all the mental aspects of positions, but every position has technical aspects that need a position coach who knows the technique of that position.

Surely you don't think any coordinator could easily coach any position just because he's a coordinator?
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A DC does have knowledge regarding proper techniques at every position on the defense. Otherwise, they wouldn't be a DC.

Considering the QB position is the most important position on the offense, I am sure DeBord is more than qualified to point out flaws in delivery, decision-making, etc.

So coordinators only coach mental aspects of the game? Have you have never seen Saban, for example, working with his DBs on technique?
 
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JAL said:
A DC does have knowledge regarding proper techniques at every position on the defense. Otherwise, they wouldn't be a DC.

Considering the QB position is the most important position on the offense, I am sure DeBord is more than qualified to point out flaws in delivery, decision-making, etc.

So coordinators only coach mental aspects of the game? Have you have never seen Saban, for example, working with his DBs on technique?
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I didn't say coordinators only coach mental aspects. You're saying that every coordinator is as much of an expert on every position technique as position coaches. I'm saying that's not the case. I'm sure they're capable of doing an adequate job, but you're saying jancek would coach DL technique as well as Strip.
 
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jave36 said:
I didn't say coordinators only coach mental aspects. You're saying that every coordinator is as much of an expert on every position technique as position coaches. I'm saying that's not the case. I'm sure they're capable of doing an adequate job, but you're saying jancek would coach DL technique as well as Strip.
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Jancek can and has coached DL as good as Strip. I think any coordinator can coach any position on defense. I get what you're saying though, but what makes a coach an "expert?"
 
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catchnburn said:
Jancek can and has coached DL as good as Strip. I think any coordinator can coach any position on defense. I get what you're saying though, but what makes a coach an "expert?"
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Experience and practice. And no way jancek is as good a DL coach as strip. I'm not saying he's incapable, but definitely not as good.
 
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rape and religion have passed Memphis, and are closing fast with race, on the list of things that are most awkward to read about on vol nation.
 
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jave36 said:
I didn't say coordinators only coach mental aspects. You're saying that every coordinator is as much of an expert on every position technique as position coaches. I'm saying that's not the case. I'm sure they're capable of doing an adequate job, but you're saying jancek would coach DL technique as well as Strip.
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That's close to exactly what I'm saying. Haha. You act as if DeBord is completely ignorant.
 
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JAL said:
That's close to exactly what I'm saying. Haha. You act as if DeBord is completely ignorant.
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Where did I say that? He's inexperienced, so we're looking at an average QB coach whose specialty is OL for 3 4* freshmen QBs. I said it was too bad we didn't get a QB expert since we have such huge potential at QB with these freshmen, and it's a fair concern that they might not develop as well as if we had a QB expert.
 
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jave36 said:
Experience and practice. And no way jancek is as good a DL coach as strip. I'm not saying he's incapable, but definitely not as good.
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Ok. Fair enough. In my experience its not difficult to coach multiple positions if you are a solid coach, but coaches do have areas of expertise. Imo, Dormady Jones and Jennings will develop under Debord. As OC, Debord has worked with and developed qbs. It may not be his expertise but he knows the qb position, footwork and technique well enough to develop these young men. I don't think Butch would have hired him if he didn't believe that as well. Also, I like the fact Debord is an expert with the OLine and has qb coaching experience. The most important positions for a successful offense.

Edit: Debord has qb coaching exp
 
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jave36 said:
Where did I say that? He's inexperienced, so we're looking at an average QB coach whose specialty is OL for 3 4* freshmen QBs. I said it was too bad we didn't get a QB expert since we have such huge potential at QB with these freshmen, and it's a fair concern that they might not develop as well as if we had a QB expert.
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Your comment that I originally responded to insinuated that because DeBord hasn't exclusively been labeled a "QB coach" for a couple of decades means that he is incapable of coaching up the QBs, regardless of that fact that he has been an OC. That is bunk! Plain and simple.
 
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VolGee4 said:
I thought I recognized that name. She was the principal at Houston High School in Germantown, my alma mater. I now live about a half of mile from there. She came well after me, but the academics have always been very good, and I don't think her tenure was any different.
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What year did you graduate from Houston? I was '05. She ran off our cross country coach while she was there (about 2-3 years after I graduated) and coach Gibson won like 7 state championships in track and cross country and consistently had them ranked nationally. She's just an awful principal.
 
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