Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[PolkVol]

I’m trying to figure out what Lane Kiffin career coaching highlight was the best? It’s hard maybe the Kiffin fanboys can tell me....

Tn losing to Bama by a blocked Cody fieldgoal... closest we've been to besting Saban..loss yes...but dang to be competitive again

 

[BleedorangeinGA]

Minneapolis sports radio guy:

Reading the comments in his Twitter feed, Gopher fans don’t seem upset if he leaves. A lot of comments about slogans and none of them liked his “year zero” comments.

P.J. Fleck remaining patient at Minnesota after rough start in 'Year Zero'

 

[NMVol]

Same page. Enough coordinators. Get us a “more with less” ball coach who’s up for the challenge.

Had to like the Campbell quote about the steep challenge of turning the ISU program around in relation to his taking that job. Coaches are motivated by different things. Got to find a coach motivated by the adversity.

 

[tnhunter 10]

Callahan shared a post from his counterpart on Minnesota 247 site...

Fan base? We've done nothing but support looser coaches for 12 years. We give our all for a loosing program. If the coach wins, the fans will love him. Were a passionate and loyal fan base.

 

[BruinVol]

Shaw is so overrated

I agree

His offense is outdated

 

[Voljerm98]

just learned his wife loves Minnesota.

Is this their MIT BEAVER?

 

[Sleegro]

Elliott is not a Sexton client.

We need a stickied thread with a list of not sexton clients.

 

[BruinVol]

Dumb as hell for him to lead the team in minutes hurt

38 damn minutes tonight

 

[volswillrise12]

Tn losing to Bama by a blocked Cody fieldgoal... closest we've been to besting Saban..loss yes...but dang to be competitive again

Horseshoes and hand grenades. He’s mediocre. Great offensive mind, but a serial job hopper. He’s not going to get a sniff anyway because we have a competent AD that probably doesn’t read message boards.

 

[Sleegro]

I am not a Sexton client

Add to the stickied thread

 

[Glocker_Alum_2005]

Something to consider when evaluating coaches: it's not just about the record, but about how the record was made. Even for good coaches, improvement isn't always linear as reflected in the overall record (ie, 6-6, 9-4, 11-1, etc.). If we look at how many close games the team played, the record against ranked opponents, and the number of blowouts (wins and losses), that should take some of the noise/luck factor out of records.

For example, let's compare the best individual seasons for three head coaching candidates that have been discussed here:

• Coach A: overall record 10-2
  • against ranked opponents: 1-1
  • in one possession games: 3-1
  • wins by more than two touchdowns: 6
  • losses by more than two touchdowns: 1
• Coach B: overall record 9-3
  • against ranked opponents: 3-1
  • in one possession games: 4-2
  • wins by more than two touchdowns: 5
  • losses by more than two touchdowns: 1
• Coach C: overall record 10-4
  • against ranked opponents: 5-2
  • in one possession games: 7-3
  • wins by more than two touchdowns: 2
  • losses by more than two touchdowns: 0

Coach A blew out half of his opponents and only played four close games, winning three.
Coach B played more close games, probably because he played four ranked opponents to Coach A's two, but he blew out his remaining opponents.
Coach C played almost every game on his schedule within one possession. He played ton of ranked opponents, but played even his other opponents close, going 7-3.

Let's assume for the sake of argument that winning close games is replicable skill, instead of luck. Do we prefer playing close games or blowing out opponents? I would think that by year 3 or 4, we want to be blowing out lesser opponents like Vandy, South Carolina, and Mizzou.

If you go through coaching records game by game, I think it's easier to distinguish the mirages (Coach C, aka Tom Herman) from the actual program builders (Coach B, aka Matt Campbell and Coach A, aka Lane Kiffin).

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Solid analysis

 

[TheMookieMonster]

Reading the comments in his Twitter feed, Gopher fans don’t seem upset if he leaves. A lot of comments about slogans and none of them liked his “year zero” comments.

P.J. Fleck remaining patient at Minnesota after rough start in 'Year Zero'

90% of this fanbase would hate PJ Fleck from his first press conference onward. His Butchisms would make the majority of our fanbase furious.

 

[Orange Studs]

Pay sites reporting Fleck and Elliott have been contacted. VN insider says leader in clubhouse is not a Sexton agent.

Thanks Jimmy !! HAHA I got to do it again! Man this is fun!

 

[m1al]

just learned his wife loves Minnesota.

Somebody has to, right?

 

[Orangeredblooded]

80 pages behind. What’s happened since 4 today?

Absolutely nothing, It helps to just scroll through or skip. It’s still the same ole same since Friday.

 

[butchna]

I am not a Sexton client

I am Spartacus!

 

[give_him 6]

That guy was relentless with trolling that Pruitt was going nowhere.

 

[Sleegro]

Not to be one to point out anything but, I did say a grown ass man.

This is my car.

 

[NMVol]

Absolutely nothing, It helps to just scroll through or skip. It’s still the same ole same since Friday.

AD did not exercise his 3 day cancel option.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

We would have a very nice First Lady of Vol football.

 

[Nashvegas31]

That Minnesota 247 post sounds like what we all figure. Their is a top target identified that is expected to be the guy but if it falls through then that is when Fleck/Eliot become options for offers

 

[TheMagnificantOne]

Elliott is not a Sexton client.

Hiring him Immediately

 

[InVOLuntary]

We would have a very nice First Lady of Vol football.

I'm sold.

 

[Jackcrevol]

We would have a very nice First Lady of Vol football.

good lord! absolutely beautiful! that tree is top notch.

 

[m1al]

I'm sold.

$100 body and a $10 face....