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SSVol said:
All were asymptomatic at the time of testing. Unless I missed it, it didn't say that they were never symptomatic.
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From the article: "All of the employees were asymptomatic at the time of testing, according to TDOC."

We really should be using the term presymptomatic until they go two weeks without symptoms.
 
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Kristy* said:
What about this one? SECDEF: Majority of Roosevelt sailors with COVID-19 are asymptomatic

“What we’ve found of the 600 or so that have been infected, what’s disconcerting is a majority of those, 350 plus, are asymptomatic,” Esper said in an interview with the “Today Show” on Thursday. “So it has revealed a new dynamic of this virus that it can be carried by normal, healthy people who have no idea whatsoever that they are carrying it.”

More than half tested are asymptomatic.
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I wish we could get a follow-up on these stories to see how many develop symptoms within the two weeks after testing. Only then do you start to get an idea where that asymptomatic number is.

I'm really hoping we get an accurate antibody test soon. That's going to help us figure out how best to start opening up things.
 
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Kristy* said:
Or either one of these?

Nearly all pregnant women in study who had coronavirus were asymptomatic

Asymptomatic cases pose challenge for Boston homeless shelters | Boston.com

Assymptomatic cases are missed right now because seemingly healthy people aren't getting tested. But there are obviously many out there.
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The argument won’t work because no one wants to believe that this virus isn’t as deadly as they think it is. (They also do not want to believe people have probably had it without realizing it even though they’ve been social distancing)
 
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WriterVol said:
I wish we could get a follow-up on these stories to see how many develop symptoms within the two weeks after testing. Only then do you start to get an idea where that asymptomatic number is.

I'm really hoping we get an accurate antibody test soon. That's going to help us figure out how best to start opening up things.
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Symptoms come on in approximately 5 to 7 days. Not 14. 14 is Approximately the time it takes to get rid of the virus and that is from Day one of infection.

Edit: Personally I would assume that these individuals had COVID-19 for a few days before they were ever tested considering they are asymptomatic and there wouldn’t be a need to test them.
 
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drvenner said:
We have not filed yet and we got ours yesterday. Sorry to bring you down.
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Yeah they will try to go off 2018 first. Not filing yet should not be a problem IF your 2018 return qualifies. If not, could be a waiting game. Think I am in the same boat as y'all. Filed last week...but they work SLOWLY.

Last year when they (irs) didn't apply our payment correctly and had to fix it...they said wait 6 weeks to see the change reflected 🤣
 
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Kristy* said:
What about this one? SECDEF: Majority of Roosevelt sailors with COVID-19 are asymptomatic

“What we’ve found of the 600 or so that have been infected, what’s disconcerting is a majority of those, 350 plus, are asymptomatic,” Esper said in an interview with the “Today Show” on Thursday. “So it has revealed a new dynamic of this virus that it can be carried by normal, healthy people who have no idea whatsoever that they are carrying it.”

More than half tested are asymptomatic.
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Every place I've seen those studies done, they've always been 50% or 55% asymptomatic. Most are using the "everybody has been exposed" thing to justify that we are near herd immunity, but there is a big difference between 2x and 10x. My point remains. Until and unless antibody testing shows far more exposure than it would appear, we are still a long way from herd immunity.
 
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cHiZzLeVOL said:
The argument won’t work because no one wants to believe that this virus isn’t as deadly as they think it is. (They also do not want to believe people have probably had it without realizing it even though they’ve been social distancing)
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I can't speak for anyone else, but I just want to see verified numbers. I think we'll have it within our ability to start seeing those numbers when we start getting accurate antibody tests.

When that happens, we won't have to speculate anymore, which is a win for everyone.
 
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WriterVol said:
I can't speak for anyone else, but I just want to see verified numbers. I think we'll have it within our ability to start seeing those numbers when we start getting accurate antibody tests.

When that happens, we won't have to speculate anymore, which is a win for everyone.
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Agreed. I just can’t believe how many people believe the current numbers out there after all the models have shown they were incorrect on predictions etc.
 
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kiloVOLt said:
UTC just announced that all away athletic competitions must be within 150 miles of campus and teams must travel to and return from the competition on the same day. This is for all sports in fall 2020 and spring 2021.

Looks like this would only affect football, although I’m not sure they travel the day before. Obviously if this type policy starts taking off UT would have to make some serious scheduling adjustments.
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So baseball teams with a three game series would have to travel back and forth three days straight? We have lost our minds.
 
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cHiZzLeVOL said:
Symptoms come on in approximately 5 to 7 days. Not 14. 14 is Approximately the time it takes to get rid of the virus and that is from Day one of infection.

Edit: Personally I would assume that these individuals had COVID-19 for a few days before they were ever tested considering they are asymptomatic and there wouldn’t be a need to test them.
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I know there is some number that stay asymptomatic. I just wish articles would follow up so we had a better idea where that number might sit.

Last I checked it took 2 to 11.5 days for that vast majority to exhibit symptoms after exposure. Few cases were outside that range. The median was 5-ish.

Here we go (I've Been Diagnosed With the New Coronavirus (COVID-19). What Should I Expect?):

Symptoms could appear as soon as two days after exposure to as long as 14 days later, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). A new study led by researchers at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health provides a median time of about five days. That is why the 14-day quarantine period is used by the CDC for people with likely exposure to the new coronavirus.
 
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Kristy* said:
19 TN correctional facilities employees test positive for COVID-19

Tennessee Department of Correction recently tested 1145 employees at two of their facilities. 19 tested positive, which is only 1.6%. But the noteworthy part to me was that all 19 were asymptomatic.

It is absolutely more prevalent than the data suggests.
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I have no doubt that there are many more cases than the totals listed. It is still a stretch to assume if you have been out in public, you are likely to have it or have had it.
 
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cHiZzLeVOL said:
Agreed. I just can’t believe how many people believe the current numbers out there after all the models have shown they were incorrect on predictions etc.
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I'm not sure which numbers we're talking about or which models (there are lots of both), but I think we'd all like to see how many already have antibodies. And we'd all like those people to be protected against reinfection.
 
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WriterVol said:
I'm not sure which numbers we're talking about or which models (there are lots of both), but I think we'd all like to see how many already have antibodies. And we'd all like those people to be protected against reinfection.
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The last part I suppose is the biggest thing. Can you be reinfected. It’ll be interesting to see that study. You would hope with such a slowly mutating virus that you wouldn’t have to worry about reinfection.
 
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Tennessee Golfer said:
So baseball teams with a three game series would have to travel back and forth three days straight? We have lost our minds.
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Yeah this will obviously raise a lot of questions. It seems as if UTC is the only one setting this policy. I haven’t seen the Southern Conference announce anything yet.
 
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MarcoVol said:
I’m not saying you’re wrong, but science is:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sc...ot-human-made-lab-genetic-analysis-nature/amp
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You realize you are a day late and a dollar short right?

Just because it escaped from a “virology lab” doesn’t mean it was a bio weapon or engineered by humans. Virology labs test all sorts of animals etc who have infectious diseases that weren’t man made. It is literally how they try and prevent things like this that can happen if that virus were ever to transmit.

Edit: Also, SARS escaped a virology lab in China twice. Causing it to spread as well. It wasn’t a bio weapon but it happened.

2nd Edit: No one finds it suspicious that without any type of prompt China released a statement that they were going to address and increase security measures at the Wuhan Virology Lab? That’s not a coincidence.
 
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It can be true that the virus is more widespread than confirmed by testing AND most of the population still hasn't been exposed. Depending on the what the basic R0 is, this thing may not get down to the level of seasonal flu until 50%-70% of the population is exposed. That may be soon, or not. We tend to have a very binary view of things, but reality is rarely so straightforward.

Widespread antibody testing ought to be a game changer, but you better be sure before making significant changes. Screw this up, and we'll back at home in a month and more pissed off than now.
 
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cHiZzLeVOL said:
You realize you are a day late and a dollar short right?

Just because it escaped from a “virology lab” doesn’t mean it was a bio weapon or engineered by humans. Virology labs test all sorts of animals etc who have infectious diseases that weren’t man made. It is literally how they try and prevent things like this that can happen if that virus were ever to transmit.

Edit: Also, SARS escaped a virology lab in China twice. Causing it to spread as well. It wasn’t a bio weapon but it happened.

2nd Edit: No one finds it suspicious that without any type of prompt China released a statement that they were going to address and increase security measures at the Wuhan Virology Lab? That’s not a coincidence.
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Could be right? That’s why I said I’m not saying you’re wrong. That article says it’s unlikely that the virus was kept in lab dishes bc the mutations to the virus that would only happen in nature.

But I sure as shite am no scientist so 🤷🏻‍♂️.

Here’s another one just for reading. Says they have no way to officially rule out that theory but it’s unlikely:

Theory that Coronavirus Escaped from a Lab Lacks Evidence
 
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