Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

[VolGee4]

Indoctrinated
If this minor **** is something we’re going to police, then it should be handed over to someone like a social worker. This is a waste of time for police officers and it’s ridiculous that they put banks in jail for it

Lol. You are something else. Bench (arrest) warrants are issued when you miss court. Police officers execute warrants. It’s their job. That’s all that needs to be said.

 

[nicksjuzunk]

I only have two issues with this whole thing:

1. Banks, for not knowing how to conduct himself.
2. The media, for creating drama for something that had been settled.

Cops and Pruitt, I'm ok with. Pruitt did not implicate himself with anything and the officer followed protocol... fair game. Everyone asks to be let off with a warning.

I only hope that this public embarrassment brings about a desire to change in Banks.

 

[TrippieRedd]

I only have two issues with this whole thing:

1. Banks, for not knowing how to conduct himself.
2. The media, for creating drama for something that had been settled.

Cops and Pruitt, I'm ok with. Pruitt did not implicate himself with anything and the officer followed protocol... fair game. Everyone asks to be let off with a warning.

I only hope that this public embarrassment brings about a desire to change in Banks.

This.

Edit: Just pretend this has 10,000 likes.

 

[VolGee4]

I have no issue with the cops, or CJP in this case. I think both handled the situation well. The issue is with the Knox County court system. The minute there was a warrant issued for Banks arrest the authorities at UT should of been contacted. Then the warrant would of never been outstanding it could of been handled peacefully. The cop was just doing his job.

I don’t think you can blame the court system. They can’t ask someone to contact you. That’s not a good look. Someone in the AD should monitor the players and know when court is set and then it can be taken care of.

 

[SamRebel35]

Will West was saying that we shouldn't be mad at KNS because it is their job to uncover crimes. What crimes did the body cam footage uncover, Will West? Seems to me that the KNS is more interested in dragging a kid through the mud who has served his penance rather than uncovering crimes.

 

[RikidyBones]

Pruitt thought it was handled. I'd like to know why it wasn't. If the PD was going to help Banks with the process, who dropped the ball and why?

 

[WriterVol]

It's like some of y'all don't realize that these kids come from communities that have a ton of not-so-fun interactions with police. I recently had a 11 year old tell me that he didn't talk to police...made me sad. I stopped what I was doing and told him that we're not his enemy and that, if he ever needed our help, we would be there, regardless of who you are, what you've done in your past or who your family and friends are...but sometimes we have to arrest people. That's life. That's the game. He shook my hand and didn't say anything but...I tried.

Thank you, and don't stop trying. It can only help.

 

[JohnD13]

I heard a conspiracy yesterday that it's Fulmer trying to sabotage things from all directions.

OMG....

 

[Ashevolle]

Yes, it is. It’s their job. An officer is never going to let someone with a warrant go. Maybe in a really small town where everyone knows each other. It’s standard operating procedure.,

I work in the criminal justice system in a large metropolitan area. Warrants are routinely not executed for minor matters. I see it every day. Cops don't get in trouble if they "ignore" that a person has a warrant for a minor matter like driving while suspended matters, etc (here we don't have them for unpaid tickets). There is literally zero blowback on the cop if he/she doesn't arrest the person and it often creates more work for them, hence you see a lot of "blind eye turning". Furthermore, the jails are often full, so arresting someone on a warrant sometimes means they'll literally be turned away at the jail once they get there. I assume you're not talking out of your @$$ here and you're simply reporting what you see in your local community, but I can guarantee you it doesn't work that way everywhere. I can't speak to Knoxville, but I'd venture a guess that a lot of warrants get "missed" from time to time.

Of course, if it's a felony matter, it's guaranteed to end in an arrest. As crimes get less serious, so does the strict adherence to the "obligation". But at it's essence a warrant is a court order, so of course it's by definition obligatory.

 

[SLICKYINC]

Players coach or clueless bammer?

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

As an aside, cops learn about warrants and let people go all the time. They may be "obligated" to arrest on a warrant, but in practice you often see them give a warning and tell the person to take care of it right away. Not saying that should have happened here (or in any particular case), but it's not true that a cop has to make an arrest any time they learn that someone has a piddly traffic ticket warrant.

Tried to say this when Banks was first arrested. Cops in Tennessee do have discretion with things like this. (The thing I think that made it arrestable was that Banks was driving on the suspended license that apparently Pruitt thought he already had cleared up? Which makes it one of those situations where the officer can’t let him go.... I believe)

 

[jakez4ut]

I only have two issues with this whole thing:

1. Banks, for not knowing how to conduct himself.
2. The media, for creating drama for something that had been settled.

Cops and Pruitt, I'm ok with. Pruitt did not implicate himself with anything and the officer followed protocol... fair game. Everyone asks to be let off with a warning.

I only hope that this public embarrassment brings about a desire to change in Banks.

agreed....

 

[Kingston Vol]

Look at the “bright” Side of this. If Banks all of sudden becomes a star this will hurt his chances of entering the draft early. This kind of thing will stick with him if he becomes a nfl prospect

Well this is about the weirdest take you’ll see today.

 

[volatil]

Did y’all clock in before we started manufacturing scandals?

 

[MoCo_Vol]

As an aside, cops learn about warrants and let people go all the time. They may be "obligated" to arrest on a warrant, but in practice you often see them give a warning and tell the person to take care of it right away. Not saying that should have happened here (or in any particular case), but it's not true that a cop has to make an arrest any time they learn that someone has a piddly traffic ticket warrant.

Oddly enough someone in my family got off with a warning for a similar situation with an outstanding warrant.

driving on a suspended license, driving with no insurance, driving on expired tags. He had gotten a speeding ticket in the past or something and they suspended his license. He was still driving around in the vehicle though, cause dumb. Got pulled over for no seat-belt, and when the cop ran everything he was pissed but STILL told him the car needed to be towed and he better not see it on the road again or he'd arrest him and impound the vehicle.

 

[eVOLve]

Look at the “bright” Side of this. If Banks all of sudden becomes a star this will hurt his chances of entering the draft early. This kind of thing will stick with him if he becomes a nfl prospect

It will have zero implication on his chances in the NFL. He's a long way away from that anyway.

 

[Kingston Vol]

I only have two issues with this whole thing:

1. Banks, for not knowing how to conduct himself.
2. The media, for creating drama for something that had been settled.

Cops and Pruitt, I'm ok with. Pruitt did not implicate himself with anything and the officer followed protocol... fair game. Everyone asks to be let off with a warning.

I only hope that this public embarrassment brings about a desire to change in Banks.

In my opinion, the true issue is not related to Banks at all. This is a 19 year old kid getting pulled over for a traffic violation and running his mouth while it happens. I think we’ve all been there in some form or fashion. I know I had a similar issue at 18.

The story - at least as far as I can glean it from national media reaction - has been 1) “lol Pruitt doesn’t understand warrants” and 2) he attempted to get Banks out of an arrest because it works that way in other cities and 3) he became a little childish at the end when he realized his attempt wasn’t going to work.

Now, I’ve seen no one call for him to be fired or suspended or anything like that. That would be a comical overreaction.

What I have seen - and this is being exacerbated by the results on the field - are questions like: “is Jeremy Pruitt totally in over his head?” and “was he ready to be the head coach at a major program?” And all those are valid questions we had before this incident was made public.

 

[jakez4ut]

anybody think the cops actually did banks a favor.....if you consider EVERYTHING that was seen in the video.....i wonder if there were maybe some other charges that could have been applied, that weren't......................................

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Yeah, KNS is trying to push the "fire Pruitt" agenda...that's what I take from this more than anything else.

 

[Ron Swanson]

Would be great if UT cut KNS access off completely. I wouldn’t let Adams or anyone like him within 1000 feet of the campus.

 

[bignewt]

Would have preferred the headline "woman eaten alive after trespassing into lion enclosure"

https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/bronx-zoo-lion-enclosure-trnd/index.html

 

[jakez4ut]

In my opinion, the true issue is not related to Banks at all. This is a 19 year old kid getting pulled over for a traffic violation and running his mouth while it happens. I think we’ve all been there in some form or fashion. I know I had a similar issue at 18.

The story - at least as far as I can glean it from national media reaction - has been 1) “lol Pruitt doesn’t understand warrants” and 2) he attempted to get Banks out of an arrest because it works that way in other cities and 3) he became a little childish at the end when he realized his attempt wasn’t going to work.

Now, I’ve seen no one call for him to be fired or suspended or anything like that. That would be a comical overreaction.

What I have seen - and this is being exacerbated by the results on the field - are questions like: “is Jeremy Pruitt totally in over his head?” and “was he ready to be the head coach at a major program?” And all those are valid questions we had before this incident was made public.

then you're just buying the spoonfed narratives being given to you w/out any thought or consequence....

it is what it is, and i'm not surprised that folks like you and the media have decided to go this route with it.

it's as predictable as the sun coming up every day.....

it'll get the mouthbreathers in a tissy and give them something else to point at and say "look see...."....

that's about it. get back to me when we have issues like UF had in their off season...where's your crusade to get Mullen fired? wouldn't 'your efforts be better served by getting a guy that's enabling a sexist culture that endorses sexcual assalut of females out of a position of power vs. a guy that doesn't want to deal with a player getting pulled over on a traffic stop because he did something dumb?

hmmmmmm...if you picked up on the hyperbole in alll that, good, that at least means you know what you're doing.........

 

[nicksjuzunk]

Will West was saying that we shouldn't be mad at KNS because it is their job to uncover crimes. What crimes did the body cam footage uncover, Will West? Seems to me that the KNS is more interested in dragging a kid through the mud who has served his penance rather than uncovering crimes.

Stupid
pretty sure it’s the police's job to uncover crimes. It’s KNS job to print a newspaper

 

[jakez4ut]

Would be great if UT cut KNS access off completely. I wouldn’t let Adams or anyone like him within 1000 feet of the campus.

they won't, and they can't. that'd look worse than anything and give more fuel to the fire of "dig ANYTHING up you can on them".

 

[BruinVol]

Pruitt thought it was handled. I'd like to know why it wasn't. If the PD was going to help Banks with the process, who dropped the ball and why?

Well this is simple


Banks dropped the ball and that’s something is very good at