Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

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SLICKYINC said:
Our upperclassmen for the most part aren’t good. Couple that with the fact that they haven’t bought in to Pruitt and you end up with this mess we have right now. We are forced to play a lot of Pruitts young’s guy who just in all honesty aren’t really ready.
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My thing is, maybe we need to play more young guys. They’ll figure things out quicker with experience and their talent and effort will more than make up for what the older guys are giving us imo. I hope Crouch and Harrison get real play tonight.

But, you do have to ask why Pruitt has not been able to change that culture yet. That culture of quitting and losing is still there.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
Most of coaching is getting guys to play together and to play hard.

We had the talent to beat the brakes off Auburn last year when this coaching staff got the most out of it.

Army doesn’t have the talent to compete with Michigan. Georgia State doesn’t have the talent to compete with Tennessee. But those coaching staffs got the best out of the talent available.

We’ve got some great X’s and O’s coaches. There’s no debate there. But they haven’t been able to connect with or consistently motivate the talent they’ve been given.
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If we are looking for a sliver of hope it’s that the culture Butch left was beyond repair. Like bass said, the coaches know their X’s and O’s, and the new kids are the ones out there playing hard. Hoping that’s what we’re seeing.
 
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Vols410 said:
If we are looking for a sliver of hope it’s that the culture Butch left was beyond repair. Like bass said, the coaches know their X’s and O’s, and the new kids are the ones out there playing hard. Hoping that’s what we’re seeing.
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I am one of Butch’s biggest critics. Didn’t like that guy at all. But it’s a little too convenient to blame problems on the last coach, especially when the current guy is in his second year.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
I am one of Butch’s biggest critics. Didn’t like that guy at all. But it’s a little too convenient to blame problems on the last coach, especially when the current guy is in his second year.
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Oh I’m not saying it’s his fault necessarily. I’m saying it’s “possible” and that helps me keep my sanity and gives me hope things can get better lol.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
We’ve got some great X’s and O’s coaches. There’s no debate there. But they haven’t been able to connect with or consistently motivate the talent they’ve been given.
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This is true. Why is that? I’m not going to act as you are right now that we are a very talented team. We’re not. We aren’t more talented than AU. Again, we had 0 draft picks last year. And how many do you feel like will get drafted from our upper class man this year? We can speculate on freshmen but that’s just speculation. Outside of Callaway who do you feel like is drafted off this team? It’s just not true to say we have a lot of talent and it’s only coaching as you’re trying to imply here for whatever reason. I think you want your preseason narrative to be true.

But, the question is, why isn’t this staff getting these guys to bring effort and intensity? I think this is the issue with this team and the biggest question
 
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When Urb was asked about how to handle Mich at halftime....he said ”if this was an effort issue, YOU BLOW THE WHOLE DRESSING ROOM UP !”

I would love to know what happened in our locker room last week at half. I am still in shock.....I need 7:00 to get here and FAST .
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Real talk: is our talent just non existent? You look at other teams around the country like Maryland who looks like a completely different team under Locksley. The culture at ATM was basically changed immediately under Jimbo and they look very very good. FL won 10 games in year 1 under Mehlen.

And here we are losing to GSU... I don’t know how to explain this.
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Michigan struggling with Army
 
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Kingston Vol said:
I am one of Butch’s biggest critics. Didn’t like that guy at all. But it’s a little too convenient to blame problems on the last coach, especially when the current guy is in his second year.
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Well, the upper class roster is completely his, no? Oh, and half of Pruitts first class. Now, they’re all Pruitts guys now, but the intern is the one who left the roster with a lack of talent. You may not like that because it doesn’t fit your narrative, but it’s true
 
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Kingston Vol said:
I am one of Butch’s biggest critics. Didn’t like that guy at all. But it’s a little too convenient to blame problems on the last coach, especially when the current guy is in his second year.
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the problem is the core players at key positions are still Butch players and Pruitt technically didnt have a full recruiting cycle his first year, so it would be true freshmen. Which should be playing QB imo.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
I’m not saying anything about tonight. We may win tonight, idk. I’m just confused about why we’re seeing the same problems in the first game that we’ve seen for 3 straight years now, and it’s been especially bad in the last 3.
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I don't think I have ever seen what I saw last week.
 
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I wonder if one of the problems that Pruitt is having in changing the culture is that there are no team leaders? Outside of JJ there doesn’t seem to be any on this team, especially at the most important position: QB
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Exactly. It’s easy to say “it’s coaching” and sure, that’s part of it. But our coaches know how to coach football. Something is missing over there. I don’t know what it is.
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Agreed. Already said it but repeating for truth.
Of course folks that never liked Pruitt will always say just coaching only but you CANNOT coach out fire or temper.
Someone shoves you, you get mad and shove back, period. Unless you're just not wired that way.
 
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