Recruiting Football Talk VIII

[knoxvol52]

of course not. we gotta find some players bru.

I don't know who to believe or what to believe.

This individual says blah,blah,blah. Then this other individual contradicts everything the first individual said.

I'm to the point that CJH should just suit up and play QB1 his damn self....

 

[Jackcrevol]

I don't know who to believe it what to believe.

This individual says blah,blah,blah. Then this other individual contradicts everything the first individual said.

I'm to the point that CJH should just suit up and play QB1 his damn self....

we would def win 16, @VolsDoc81TX

i think when there's no info out there, or smoke. we aren't close.

we will be in a world of hurt with this schedule without a diff maker at WR, a QB. really need a LB and DT, but thats asking too much.

 

[VOLumeS]

Heard Gruden has a staff ready.

 

[Weezer]

Maybe so. But where have we upgraded over last season?

QB - Big no
RB - Big no
WR - Meh
OL - Mid no without Coop at C
TE - I dare say yes - hoping Davis finally breaks out, as he should be a stud, but Kitselman was a really nice surprise last year too.

Defense - that was one hell of a defense, so upgrading would be very optimistic

We've currently downgraded on both sides of the ball. Unproven QBs, unproven WRs, unproven OL. None of the current RBs have shown they can deliver the explosiveness Sampson did. And even TE could be questionable depending on Kitselman's injury and Davis' development.

Defensively, we lost 3 of our top interior DL to graduation, and our star CB to injury.

There are plenty of questions on both sides of the ball.

But the potential for surprise is there. Games are played for a reason.

 

[Weezer]

By a wash, you mean we don't make the playoffs? Or, do you think things could get very ugly (7 wins or less)?

No one knows what next season will bring. It could get extremely ugly. It could go really well. The roster is still under construction, but as is, I'd lean more toward not so great.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Maybe so. But where have we upgraded over last season?

QB - Big no
RB - Big no
WR - Meh
OL - Mid no without Coop at C
TE - I dare say yes - hoping Davis finally breaks out, as he should be a stud, but Kitselman was a really nice surprise last year too.

Defense - that was one hell of a defense, so upgrading would be very optimistic

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[knoxvol52]

Never thought I would see the day College Football fans wouldn't trust the players that the Coaches recruited to the Universities. I blame it on the win now mentality that everyone has and the HC fearing for his job if they have ONE bad or rebuilding season.

 

[JCP201]

Whatever the record next year, I stand with coaches and AD. If we had submitted to the blackmail and made the playoffs this year, Nico was going to pull the same stunt because we have a great quarterback coming in. They did the right thing cutting him loose.

 

[GoBigOrange86]

Whatever the record next year, I stand with coaches and AD. If we had submitted to the blackmail and made the playoffs this year, he was going to pull the same stunt because we have a great quarterback coming in. They did the right thing cutting him loose.

I do too. My prediction says nothing at all regarding how I feel about Heupel and co. or Danny White. The program is in great hands. I just think we're going to take a step back, and that's okay. We wandered in the wilderness for nearly 15 years. It takes time to come back.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Whatever the record next year, I stand with coaches and AD. If we had submitted to the blackmail and made the playoffs this year, Nico was going to pull the same stunt because we have a great quarterback coming in. They did the right thing cutting him loose.

we will be better long term.

that said, Merk isn't the answer. simply isn't time. also, this should serve as notice to huep that promoting friends instead of finding best coach and recruiter is bad business. the inability to find elite talent, and missing on evals is not good.

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

Futile to predict at this point.

Yeah too many chicken nugget Littles

WE ARE BACK

And we are about to upgrade in the portal and regardless, we have our best blue chip ratio in the Heup era.

You also gotta consider how valuable it will be to have a quarterback that can hit the WIDE open ones.

 

[Weezer]

Explain the 5 losses

Losses are when you fail to score more than the other team.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Losses are when you fail to score more than the other team.

or can't stop them from scoring.

 

[bpalmer28]

Hey crew!

I've been covered up at work and I'm about 50 pages behind and trying to catch up. I'd really appreciate any QB portal updates.

Has @bpalmer28 posted any nugs today?

Thanks!!!

GO VOLS

still waiting on something final but when your read who will be starting for the Vols, I promise you will see it! (unless someone else reads it to you)

 

[Jackcrevol]

Yeah too many chicken nugget Littles

WE ARE BACK

And we are about to upgrade in the portal and regardless, we have our best blue chip ratio in the Heup era.

You also gotta consider how valuable it will be to have a quarterback that can hit the WIDE open ones.

twenty three minutes of misses

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

Thank you. I’ll give him he made some good throws in the Alabama game (and one really dumb one) but any game manager last year would have had similar results.

If he had even below average accuracy in the first half and not HORRIFIC accuracy

We blow Bama out of the water

He missed at least 3 wide open touchdowns and we missed 3 field goals, including his horrible red zone INT and Gastons horrible redzone INT.

 

[Vol423]

The thing I like most about him is that he's been through a ton of QB battles, and if he's coming here, it's because he thinks he can win. Which would mean a very agressive QB battle through the offseason and fall camp. It will engage and likely advance everyone in the QB room. That's certainly fantastic. The QB battle was relatively non-existent otherwise. Everyone knew it was Nico's.

"He's been through a ton of QB battles." That's one way to put it. A more meaningful way to put it is that he's lost a ton of QB battles, including finishing 3rd in Notre Dame's current QB battle.

 

[jave36]

"He's been through a ton of QB battles." That's one way to put it. A more meaningful way is to put it is that he's lost a ton of QB battles, including finishing 3rd in Notre Dame's current QB battle.

How many qb battles do great QBs usually go through? That's not a Stat you want to me high haha

 

[Jackcrevol]

still waiting on something final but when your read who will be starting for the Vols, I promise you will see it! (unless someone else reads it to you)

Has been on phone with Steve from Lexington, and Tony Basilio.

Kidding, hope you're right.

 

[MockingVol]

Maybe so. But where have we upgraded over last season?

QB - Big no
RB - Big no
WR - Meh
OL - Mid no without Coop at C
TE - I dare say yes - hoping Davis finally breaks out, as he should be a stud, but Kitselman was a really nice surprise last year too.

Defense - that was one hell of a defense, so upgrading would be very optimistic

My thoughts

QB: Very moderate downgrade from last year - I think the downgrade becomes sizable if looking at the next step we expected Nico to take this year, but if just looking at the production we got last year it’s a slightly negative wash.

RB: Of course losing Dylan is a downgrade, but we go into every year saying “how do we replace x?” just to yet again have a top rushing attack with a new guy being viewed as a top RB in the conference/nation. I would bet you $500 today that we’ll have a top 4 rushing offense in the SEC.

WR: With you on meh. I like the talent, but it’s completely untested and lacks depth. Think the only real loss from the corps last year was Thornton.

OL: Outlook of being minorly upgraded with a chance for the boost being major. C is the only spot that degrades, but we are going to have a more physically able body there.

TE: Again same, I like our upperclassmen and the young guys that are providing depth /learning.

 

[Weezer]

Agree 100%. I think as our line is constructed, it will be much improved. I love Cooper, but he was limited physically. Guards are much improved with new guys. Heard believes this is a contract year for him. I expect him to be much improved. Get a Wr and I am worried about safety. I think we have to upgrade there. Some good ones in portal too.

Any idea what we're actually looking for in the portal? I'm assuming QB and WR. Are we looking for anymore OL? Looking for help on defense?

 

[Mrpeabody8888]

Any idea what we're actually looking for in the portal? I'm assuming QB and WR. Are we looking for anymore OL? Looking for help on defense?

got to believe we get a d lineman as well, I don’t think coaches feel like it’s a priority, but I want a safety.

O line I don’t believe will be a priority right now, they have starters identified and like some of the kids for in a spot injury situation.

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

got to believe we get a d lineman as well, I don’t think coaches feel like it’s a priority, but I want a safety.

O line I don’t believe will be a priority right now, they have starters identified and like some of the kids for in a spot injury situation.

So Brecht

A stud WR
A studly DL

Butt whippin's locked and loaded

 

[Mrpeabody8888]

So Brecht

A stud WR
A studly DL

Butt whippin's locked and loaded

WRs are asking stupid money. They think it’s the NFL apparently. I hope we find one.

 

[tnvols72]

7-5 or 8-4 this year.

Could be the same if Nico was still here.