Recruiting Football Talk VIII

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#151,180
Devo182 said:
Without a transfer QB, it's extremely clear it's a step back. You're going from QB1 to QB2. That would matter for any team.

Hoping for 8-4, but I'm riding and defending Heupel regardless this year. This isn't on him and he made the right decision. We have to be ready to build toward 2026. It is what it is.
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Always two sides to a coin…buddy…let’s for once try and assume when the lights come on we have another manning…we always assume just because they have no game experience or years in the playbook they will fall flat…we don’t know what we have
 
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Adam Sandler said:
If it was not about money and was about wide receivers, seems a pretty big mistake for us to 1) nit successfully retain our room and 2) not make the investment in the program of replenishing.
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it has a lot to do with us not paying the money needed to reload the WR room with weapons... Nico and Dad watching 5 WR's leave and we don't replace them with elite talent. So Nico was going to be working with unproven WRs mostly. Danny and Heup took a chance not paying what was needed to reload that position group. Guess we'll see what happens...

I said earlier this morning, we need to take Nico's money and spend it on the best 2-3 WR's in the spring portal and ride with Merc... if we can get some experienced upper end WR's, that will take some pressure off Merc or whoever takes the QB reigns..
 
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#151,187
dmwvol12 said:
Respectfully it’s not that simple. By that simple logic when Milton got hurt in 2022 as QB1 we took a clear step back. In reality we took a major step forward with Hooker. I’m simply saying it’s hard to predict when we have no idea who will step in. You are also discounting the fact that Nico was clearly a problem behind the scenes. I also don’t think Nico had it and don’t view him as a big time difference maker. I also realize we may have taken a step back but would like to actually see his replacement play. I like you agree with Heupel but am just holding out hope it ends up being a net positive. Anyway, time will tell.
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1) Strawman. Milton was nowhere close to the clear-cut QB1 coming into 2021. It was a close race and even HB was on the outside looking in. It was very tight. So much so that HH threw in game 1, 21 times in Game 2, and so on for the rest of the season. Even if Nico struggled through 5 quarters, you would not have seen Merk, Gaston, Gmac lol. He'd be given a very long leash to at least get back to last-season form.

We are not discussing close QB1/QB2 battles, we're talking clear cut situations. Let's not be disingenuous.


2) I should say very likely. I don't know the future, but if you were jumping at the bit to bet the over on Vols season total wins today then you're a gutsier person than myself 🤣 Again, I hope we can go get Leavitt from ASU or some other stud, then I'm back in the saddle. Otherwise, it seems pretty clear we need to hunker down for a grind this year. Either way it's only short-term pain.
 
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#151,192
tyonthefly93 said:
I’d say G-Mac has the edge over Merk in the spring game today. Of course, their whole paradigm shifted in the last 12 hours, so I am not going to go crazy either way.
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O&W game results...are...m-e-a-n-i-n-g-l-e-s-s.

We've been proven this time and time again, otherwise Dormady and HB would be the greatest ever and HH never would have done a damn thing like Bass predicted after his first O&W game 😅🤣
 
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#151,195
gainesvol82 said:
I wonder if the staff's inability to land high end talent at OL and WR were what leady Nico to go with his Dad/Agent's decisions. Our RB room is good (nobody elite), the OL group is a big unknown with new guys, a True Fr. at RT and a guy at LT that flàshed talent but was also out of shape, hurt and played lazy at times.

Add an average and thin WR group with no sure-fire outside playmaker, TE took a hit with Kitselman. DL has less depth, DB lost our best CB to injury and Harrison left. I thinkbl Nico knows that next season will be tough, might cause him to come back his Senior year for draft status and either wanted big money or out.

That is why I always thought the the redshift and then play 2 years then NFL Draft plan was a little silly and arrogant. The family just assumed that Nico would play at a top NFL Draft pick level as a Sophomore and a Junior and would also attract EVERYONE in his and the class after to want to play with him.....only a few did. He had a solid Sophomore season and could have been very good as a Junior but their family's plan left no room for error. No room for mediocre seasons, no injuries, no room for patience of rosters having to be built, added to or developed in the Unlimited Portal & NIL era.

The family have put the last several years of pressure on this being Nico's "get rich" year and are making short-sighted decisions to get there when he is so close to mastering Heupel's system and getting the most out of his weapons. We might be a little thin on WR weapons now but have the Spring Portal window and time to develop guys. One of the worst 2025 scenarios is Nico only plays OK again due to his/WR/OL/TE play and then hits the portal or comes back to a loaded team next year but that doesn't fit "the plan".
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This was a shakedown, pure and simple.
 
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Things to remember with this Nico situation happening.

1. The NIL era will cause more shady players in the future so be prepared.
2. Never name your pet after a player in this era of college sports.
3. Never tattoo your Favorite teams player on your body, because he/she may leave the program.
4. Never name your new born child after a player in the NIL era.
 
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I came over from #voltwitter. They have been on his dad's neck all day. Especially after people like me came to defend him and Nico when all of this started. We assumed it was more of the typical garbage from national media. I had to go apologize to some journalists and eat a lot of crow. But we are hyper protective out on the socials.
 
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